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best support hero and its build

Discussion in 'DOTA 2 Talk' started by firdaus_yahaya, Aug 18, 2017.

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  1. firdaus_yahaya

    firdaus_yahaya New Member

    in your opinion what are the best support hero and what build should it use? what you prefer?

    in your opinion what are the best carry hero and what build should it use? what you prefer?
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  2. TheWill42

    TheWill42 Active Member

    Well I would say that the thing about Dota is that there is no "best" hero for a role in every game. A game with a lot of right clickers on the opposite team may make Omniknight the obvious pick, or maybe you have a lot of heavy mana cost heroes on your team and a Crystal Maiden makes more sense.

    That said, my goto is Lich because I think his kit gives him a lot of flexibility and big impact on the early game.

    I'll generally go bracer-> tranquils-> mekansm-> then pipe or eul's or atos as the situation requires.

    agh's as a super luxury item only.
  3. EsricGodbear

    EsricGodbear New Member

  4. shmekermeister

    shmekermeister Well-Known Member

    Like TheWill42 said, there is no best hero. But when it comes to supporting, I prefer heroes with disables or high damage, like Lion or Witch Doctor. Lion is first pick here because he has two disables, Mana Drain (so you don't depend on items that replenish mana that much) and high damage burst at level 6.
  5. EndlessEnvoy

    EndlessEnvoy New Member

    i disagree with this opinions because in the actual meta there is 1 support hero that is very useful:

    Shadow Shaman ~ and maybe you are asking yourself -why ss?- and let me answer you:

    High base damage for harassment.
    High base damage lvl 1 spell (140 DMG) and in lvl 4 is useful for push and nuke.
    Hex (woooooo)
    Shackles (combination with any carry stun slow)
    Serpent Wards (for tower pushing, with scepter is very op)

    And have very good talents for survival nuking or disable.

    So my point is for SS. Only be careful because in early levels has very bad resistence.
  6. angkaiwen

    angkaiwen New Member

    SS has the second highest base damage of any hero if i am not wrong. yes great for early game harass - but only against another hero that isnt as dynamic. SS has slow movement speed, and a small mana pool - coupled with spells with relatively high mana costs and low disable times (shackles is still ok - but hex is useless at level 1). plus cast range of these spells is pretty standard - 500 but compared to some other heroes its not so reliable for ganking.

    support picks are always situational. there will be times where a kunkka or disruptor can do what a SS cant (i.e. initiate from fog), but the flip side is SS has a very good zoning ultimate that can push towers as well.

    so no such thing as best support. well, except maybe gh.god's earthshaker :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
  7. RazerSapiyo

    RazerSapiyo Community Staff Member

    I like ogre. High base armour and hp regen early game. Buying orb of venom makes you a big bully as well. Also once it gets to late game that 3rd skill is such a dps booster for your carries.

    Items that I'd go for at the start would be arcane boots, force staff, euls. Rest would be situational depending on the opponent heroes etc.

    Whenever I play Lion, nothing is more satisfying than hitting a one line "ravage" on multiple heroes. :point_up:
  8. DestaYangYang

    DestaYangYang Active Member

    I first hero in my DOTA journey is Crystal Maiden. Until now even I quit I still love CM and highly recommended her as best supporter ever! Because she got high chance to get rampage accidentally LOL~

    Most important is your teammate hero composition, with high demand of requirement for mana, she is good for it. High mobility opponent make her useful too when casting frost nova.

    Lastly, the ultimate can be comeback too! But if you are winning, then her ultimate in team fight just unstoppable!
  9. shmekermeister

    shmekermeister Well-Known Member

    Only that? How about Mana drain the hell off any mana dependent offlaner? Or Finger on multiple heroes with Aghanim Scepter and that talent for +300 damage :big_grin_:
  10. TunaCookie

    TunaCookie New Member

    Lich is the best support and currently in meta hands down. Dont max sacrifice and you can feel the difference.
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