[CES 2017] Project Valerie

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  1. slowmotionxxx

    slowmotionxxx New Member

    I can see this being use in a remote desktop support environment. Where you telecommute and use a company machine. In many cases you have to work on multiple remote instances at once, making the in-bedded multi-monitor support a large boon to your work flow.
  2. IceStorm_III

    IceStorm_III Member

    In my case, for a laptop to be a DTR, it has to have more than one display. My desktop at home has three displays. At work, I have four displays. When I go to a remote location, I want more than one display. Today, I don't have that, and I don't want to carry extra USB monitors with me because that's just bulky, so I make due with one display.

    Project Valerie solves the multi-display problem tidily. That you can also surround game on it (let's be realistic, we'd be gaming at 5760x1080 if it's just one GTX 1080) is icing on the cake. Yeah, it's probably 13lbs with the power brick, but that's still lighter than a Blade plus a Core plus all the monitors.

    For those who say "4k is a waste", I say you haven't tried to squeeze more horizontal or vertical real estate out of a single display before, have you? I run my 14" Blade with its 3200x1800 screen at 2048x1152 just to get enough space to do work remotely today. Sure, I'd probably scale the 4k displays under Windows 10, but I'd have the option to scale it evenly, or choose an oddball resolution and still have it usable.

    This device will not be for everyone. Razer's debut products rarely are (the Stealth being a notable exception), but that's par for the course for early adopters.
  3. squeeze88

    squeeze88 Active Member

    This won't happen, they will then have to face the lengendary Windows resolution scaling issues between them screens.... painful!
  4. viethoangnguyen

    viethoangnguyen New Member

    I was watching Linus Tech Tips yesterday and stumbled upon Project Valerie. It's stunningly beautiful and I appreciate the risk Razer take in developing this product.

    I used to build a custom computer with 3 monitors at the comfort of my own space during college. It was nice but now as I constantly travel for work, even within the city, I learn the importance of portability.

    Project Valerie hits the right pain point for people who are gamers/tech enthusiasts/even stock traders and finance people who need multiple screens at the same time.

    For stock traders:
    • I see quite a few day traders like to buy gaming laptops to trade because high performance computing give them an edge in the market.
    • However, they travel countries while trading and usually have a portable setup.
    • At home, they have 3 screens on: main trading screen, yahoo finance, and chatroom with other traders.
    • While traveling, they'd probably want 3 screens if it's a 14" version.
    For my use cases, I can imagine many things that I can do at the same time:
    • Working on Slack + Playing CS:GO + Watching YouTube
    • Play one game schetched out on all 3 monitors
    • Stream a game + Watch your stream quality on Twitch + Chat with users via Restream Chat
    • Working with a team and showing people around different things on different screens
    • Multitask on different productivity projects.
    It's like increasing productivity three folds while being completely mobile and work at home, co-working space, or even coffee shop.

    What's more important is portability though. 17" with 3 screens is great to put at home, but it's overkill to bring to work/public place and heavy to carry around, and attracts lots of attention while working in public.

    As a guy who travels with one backpack and one carry-on anywhere around the world, and work remotely, it wouldn't make sense to me to carry a giant back pack with 12lbs laptop inside, although I can imagine there are people who buy it to replace a desktop workstation to work mostly at home.

    If you guys would consider an additional portable version, it would make sense to try the 14" Full HD version at 6.4 lbs in weight, and 1.4" in height. I'm sure you can do it.

    Full HD on 14" is great, and low profile enough for me to work anywhere.

    I hope this feedback is helpful to you guys to produce Project Valerie with a portable version in mind.
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2017
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  5. glStarLight

    glStarLight Member

    this is awesome, I mean... it might not be practical but this really pushes the limit and that's amazing just to see. Having an extra screen is a very good idea, and i'm sure a dual screen laptop is possible, but triple screen is over kill haha.
  6. John1223

    John1223 Member

    I think the 17 is so thy have enough room to put everything and gamers want big screens

    but yea @Remamian is right use existin threads instead of make new one
  7. Cobalt_Wraith

    Cobalt_Wraith New Member

    I sense there will be a lot of this. We may need to revise the slogan to "By gamers, for professionals". Feel free to take that as gamers or otherwise, because this device will belong in enterprise, and I think Razer may surprise themselves with the size of the market they may have just created.

    First I'd like to agree with these points, then to point out that Min-Liang Tan said a few interesting things along these lines in a Facebook Q&A yesterday. The MOST interesting thing is that this thing is ready for production right now, if the company sees demand... The second was that if he were to push it to production today, it would probably have 3xFHD screens, which I have mixed feelings on. As stated above, I would prefer having the option to run FHD, but think the screens should run native QHD at a minimum. Technically 3xQHD is still only a third again as many pixels as 1xUHD, which I understand a GTX 1080 handles pretty dang well in almost any situation. Unless they're trying to make this next gen VR proof (2xUHD if the rumors are ever to be believed) or up the refresh rate significantly, I'd love to just see this out the door asap.

    And thank you for doing so! Apologies if our rebuttals came off as getting after you. We just need you to be quiet now so Razer will make the dang thing :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
  8. Savuremue

    Savuremue Active Member

    Just my worthless input, but maybe having it something that can be removed and added at will (or even replaced) would be both convenient and amazing.
    Maybe even as a secondary product: selling the extra attachable screens, for whenever the owner of the laptop wants to replace an broken screen or even upgrade it.

    It would also kill two birds with one stone, considering that if you just want to carry something lighter and discrete, you'd just remove the extra screens from it
    It would be something that i actuality just thought recently after coming out of a different discussion. But honestly also that i would surely buy.
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  9. viethoangnguyen

    viethoangnguyen New Member

    Of course big screen is good for gamers. However, I'm a casual gamer and I'm very comfortable with 14" screen Full HD (Full HD looks perfect on 14" screen) and has no desire whatsoever to up my specs to 17" or 4k screen.

    I'm saying that 3x productivity combined with portability, and lower cost would make it super desirable to me and people in the tech world who uses laptop not just for gaming, but a portable productivity tool.

    I'm new here so just started navigating my way around. I think mods will move this thread to the appropriate place if needed.
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  10. Diivil92

    Diivil92 New Member

    Thats cool and all but if we can get rid of the 2 side 4k's and put in two 1080p's if would be a lot better . it nice to see hardware being pushed beyond its limits but software has not caught up and if there is a 4k game that supports 3 monitors its most likely poorly optimized
  11. John1223

    John1223 Member

    they cant not make something that make everyone happy this specifically geared towards peoples wanting as much real-estate as possible whic means they make screens as big as they can
  12. viethoangnguyen

    viethoangnguyen New Member

    While it's true we know the product is definitely geared towards multiple screens, it doesn't yet mean the product is geared towards people who wants as much real estate as possible, it's still a laptop and has expectations of a laptop real estate in mind.

    As of right now from what I can see from the interviews at CES and from YouTubers reviewing it, they still need feedbacks to shape the product, so I gave mine and listed possible use cases.
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  13. Cobalt_Wraith

    Cobalt_Wraith New Member

    So does anyone have any prior timetables for how long it takes Razer to turn a CES announcement into something we can buy?
  14. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Hey no hard feelings. Thanks for clearing things up guys :relieved:
  15. .Z4x.

    .Z4x. Active Member

    Gag me with a spoon!

    LOL ... And, this beast has a battery life of what? Like 15 minutes? Maybe? (-;

    Seriously, I love the triple-screen **idea**, but not this hinged implementation.
    Call me back when I can just pull out fabric-thin e-inkish rollable OLED displays
    (with a fraction of the weight, space, and power requirements) on both sides.
    A foldable frame of some sort to keep stuff in place will be inevitable, but these
    hinged displays are just a thing of the past...
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  16. .Z4x.

    .Z4x. Active Member

    Well, forever plus an eon for some of the concepts... (-;
  17. Jenjar

    Jenjar Well-Known Member

    Another thing i wonder about about this product and it may be odd is what would they re-sell like? I am interested if it keeps most of its price when it could be re-sold one or two years down the line, Or if it will loose most of its value. I guess it all depends on how good the systems are and how long they last. If the main thing I worry about for this laptop, The screen automatic pull out mechanism starts making un-pleasant noises, Or starts to fail.
  18. Yorkifyme

    Yorkifyme Active Member

    I'm long overdue for a new laptop... this would be a dream come true. Glad to see you guys always innovating and making unique products for us gamers. Now we just need that darn toaster...or I'd settle for a usb powered chroma mini fridge.
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  19. Nyltje

    Nyltje Member

    A laptop like this would be very nice. Not only for gaming, but if you are an editor (like me) the triple screen setup is very handy to on the go or at an another location.
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  20. KarmicSandwich

    KarmicSandwich Active Member

    Absolutely adore this concept, just need to make sure to buy 3 seats on a plane for travel :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
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