Convince me the Razer Blade Stealth is right for me.

Discussion in 'Systems' started by Numotiv, May 18, 2016.

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  1. Same thing. Just Windows with Synapse
     
  2. Chris_Chong

    Chris_Chong Active Member

    not to mention that the stealth's bezels aren't very fabulous
     
  3. bizhomeLumber486

    bizhomeLumber486 New Member


    Actually, I have to disagree with the bezels. They are way thicker than they need to be. And not for the reasons that Razer gives. I owned the Razer Blade Stealth 4K and used it for a month before deciding to return it to the Microsoft Store. I also purchased a Razer Blade Stealth QHD for my friend and was able to compared the displays side-by-side anytime I wanted.

    In the end, I ended up with the Toshiba Radius 12 4K that I originally had before the RBS. It was being serviced for warranty work and I was going on a 3 week overseas trip and needed a laptop with a good colour accurate display, so I purchased the RBS 4K with the intent that it replace my Toshiba. (I am going to go back to the RBS 4K again after another two months with the Toshiba though, so stick to the end for an explanation).

    The Toshiba Radius 12 4K and Razer Blade Stealth 4K generally share the same specs (and weakness of almost identical poor battery life on the 4K versions).

    Intel Core i7-6500U
    256GB M.2 SSD (Toshiba uses a "slower" SATA instead of the RBS's PCIe)

    Both have 12.5 4K displays with the exact same display panel part number used (Sharp SHP144D, Name: LQ125D1JW33)

    The Toshiba has MUCH thinner display bezels (google search) at maybe half the thickness all around, so I'm not sure I buy into Razer's explanation that it has to be thick due to the higher quality display used. Also, it is a convertible with the 360 flip hinge (which is handy for photography work when you can view images in portrait orientation or for tablet use on occasion due to the reasonably low weight at less than 3 pounds like the RBS). And it has a built-in SD card reader. Toshiba somehow manages to pack in all the same general specs and includes additional components and functionality into a smaller frame so it proves that it CAN be done. Maybe the next generation RBS? :)

    My apologies for being wordy. I say the Razer Blade QHD (non-4K) is a fantastic value at $1000 USD. Honestly, even side-by-side with the 4K version and flipping through entire online photo albums side-by-side, it will be difficult to tell the difference unless you are looking for it and told that there is a difference. That's how good the QHD is. And with longer battery life. There will also be benefits in performance with the QHD display vs the 4K UHD display when the Razer Core is factored in since it takes a lot more bandwidth from the Core if you're driving the graphics back to the notebook display (instead of an external desktop monitor).

    You're not getting this notebook for the Core or for gaming though. The New Razer Blade (2016) is about $1000 more, but has double the RAM, a full quad-core i7, better display, and has a built-in GTX 970m and not that much more bulky (and similar, if not better battery life due to larger battery). The Razer Blade Stealth, at the base price plus the discounted Core at $400, puts it at $1400 before video card. Add a desktop GPU to the price of that package and you are within striking distance of the New Razer Blade (along with all that additional performance and capable GPU built-in).

    The Toshiba Radius 12 4K would be the ultimate value since it's the same price as the base RBS and maybe even $200 lower at local retailers depending on the week, but it is let down by the lesser build quality and I just can't trust it long term. I've already had to send it in twice within five months for warranty work. That doesn't inspire confidence in me. Also, though they are both entirely covered with metallic surfaces all around, the RBS just FEELS like it's worth what you paid for due to the unibody construction. With the Toshiba, it's more like the inside chassis is plastic but with metal all around, which is not the same thing as unibody.

    If you made it all the way to the end of this, I applaud you. Thanks for considering my thoughts on this. I know that not all will share my opinion and everyone will have their own needs. Don't get the Razer Blade Stealth for gaming. Get the New Razer Blade for that. But DO get the Razer Blade Stealth (QHD) if you are looking for an extremely well-built and beautiful ultraportable at a very fair price. As for the battery life concerns, I am waiting for portable USB-C power banks that are compatible with the RBS's higher power requirements to hopefully come to market by the end of the year. I'm fine with that since I already carry one for my mobile devices and will probably have to upgrade to a USB-C one once it becomes more mainstream.

    Cheers.
     
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  4. Thoughtful reply. Thanks for that. My issue is I can either buy the blade stealth, core and a 1080 at once or get the regular blade and wait an undetermined amount of time and buy a core and 1080 later on. At the end of the day this still might be the best option for me. I'll have to think about things a little more I think.
     
  5. How much heavy gaming are you doing? You might as well just wait for the Core's stats and detailed reviews to come out before making your decisions.
     
  6. The issues is not a ton but when I do I do. I go through phases really. I'm definitely going to wait for core benchmarks to see before I buy.
     
  7. bizhomeLumber486

    bizhomeLumber486 New Member

    Those are two very good problems to have. And both have their merits. :)

    The New Razer Blade 2016 is ready-to-go today and you can game on the go without having to give up too much portability while having similar or better battery life depending on your configuration. Also, if this will be your main machine and you do anything more CPU intensive like video editing or programming, then this will be the better match with it's quad-core CPU and 16 GB of RAM.

    If you only game at home at your desk and don't do a lot of video or content creation/programming, then you will likely get greater GPU performance (benchmarks remain to be seen) for about the same amount of money with the Blade Stealth + Core + GTX 1080 combo. But only at home.

    Obviously, you can use the Core for both and it allows you to upgrade the GPU in the future. I am curious as to how the Core works with the laptop display and what the bandwidth constraints will be when feeding the video back to the built-in 4K UHD display. Of special interest to me is if I can drag windows from the laptop display to external monitors like in a multi-monitor set up. An RBS + Core + 3 external monitors makes a great 4 monitor set up where the laptop display is placed below the center external monitor and to be used for messaging apps and toolbars like I have set up in the past.
     

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  8. I'm not too concerned about the bandwidth to the built in screen as I have a dedicated ultra wide I use. I'm sure itll make an impact though. I think I might go the way of the full size blade if I take the plunge.
     
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  9. coolkid2169

    coolkid2169 New Member

    The Blade Stealth is great. I love it. The only drawback is low battery life. So if I want to play light game like TF2 for over an hour, I will have to plug my charger in. That's bring me to another minor issue that I don't mind that much, which is heat. Really, Razer could have put a longer lasting battery in and I don't mind paying $100 more. But beside that, the screen is gorgeous, the touch is smooth, the feeling and the built quality is nice. They can work on the SSD because honestly, 256GB is not that much if I install like 5 steams game, but I guess I can store my files on an external hard drive. I would recommend you to get the Blade Stealth if you don't mind the mediocre battery life, getting the Razer Core, and low storage. Lastly, don't waste your money on a 4K screen Blade Stealth. 4K screen drains battery faster, and QHD is excellent, unless you really need all those extras a 4K promis if you do photoshop
     
  10. coolkid2169

    coolkid2169 New Member

    If u have the budget and you really want to game, go for the Blade. The Blade Stealth only have 8GB of RAM, no GPU unless you buy the Core, mediocre battery life (mine last 2h 35m when play light game like TF2), and low storage. Blade Stealth is an ultrabook with gaming potentials with upgrades, but not a good one. If you buy the Blade Stealth, consider it a working laptop, not a gaming one. So again, in my opinion, if you have the budget and really want to game, save for the Blade. The Blade you can carry it around and play games. The Blade Stealth, nah.
     
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  11. davidha11

    davidha11 New Member

    How long can you game for with the Blade unplugged?
     
  12. coolkid2169

    coolkid2169 New Member

    It depends on what game you play but I am able to play TeamFortress 2 for about 2h30m on average, starting from 100% battery life. Team Fortress 2 is a light game. I haven' t try other heavier games yet because I know the Blade Stealth won't be able to handle them smoothly. But expect about 2-3h play games unplugged.
     
  13. JETcoolCoolBlack681

    JETcoolCoolBlack681 Active Member

    I saw a price of 1600 EUR on notebookcheck. This is 1.5 times more expensive than RBS in US. Hopefully, in Europe it will cost below 1400.
     
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