Dual Monitors 2016 Razer Blade

Discussion in 'Systems' started by EpicFlail, Jun 14, 2016.

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  1. I am interested in running two monitors in addition to the laptop monitor. Obviously there is the HDMI port of one monitor but is there a way to run a second monitor?

    I thought about using the Thunderbolt 3 port and was hoping to use a Thunderbolt 3 to Dual DisplayPort Adapter but something I read somewhere (can't find it again) said the Thunderbolt 3 port on the Blade only supports 1 monitor. Is there any truth to that? Is anyone using a device connected to the thunderbolt port?
     
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  2. Gnawpurpz

    Gnawpurpz New Member

    I actually just purchased an external usb to vga video card to try and see if this will work.
     
  3. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Hi there EpicFlail

    There are actually many ways to go about solving this problem.
    1. Razer Core + desktop GPU = as many monitors as the eGPU can support.
    2. Thunderbolt 3/USB-C to DisplayPort/HDMI/etc. adapters. You mentioned that the TB3 port on the Blade only supports 1 monitor. I don't know if that's true, but even if so, combining it with the HDMI gives you a total of 2 external monitors, which fulfills your goal right?
    3. Active USB 3.0 to DisplayPort/HDMI/etc. adapters.
    4. HDMI display splitter (not the kind that lets you switch between HDMI sources, but the kind that splits the HDMI port to multiple displays)
    5. Matrox splitters (last resort because they are expensive)
    Hope that helps!
     
  4. The goal is to buy a Core but w e all know how that is going :)
    I will look into the other things you mention. Problem is I don't want to plug in a ton of things when I get to my desk everyday.
     
  5. DiMadre

    DiMadre Member

    What about the resolution of your monitor? How does it look to have a different resolution monitor?
     
  6. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Lol I don't know what else to tell you! First world problems? :wink_:

    Yeah I think the Core would probably be the best solution for you then. I'd just wait until supply catches up with demand and then buy one (if you haven't already). It will solve your multi-monitor problem and you only have to plug one cable in when you get home.
     
  7. maxinfo

    maxinfo New Member

    I have the Razer Blade working on a Dell Thunderbolt Dock with 2 Dell 3415's @ 3440x1440 with the displayport daisy chained from one monitor to the next. Also it uses all of the docks network, keyboard, and mouse attachments just fine. It actually works better then the Dell laptop I have the dock for.

    I believe the Laptop/Dock would run 3 monitors I just don't have 3 to plug in here.

    The Core I had was a bit more error prone and buggy so I returned it. The dock and the Razer work fine for me usually. I gave up on the on the idea of retiring my desktop for one machine if I need major gaming power so there's that.
     
  8. wesley27

    wesley27 Active Member

    Is that an actual thunderbolt 3 dock though? Are there any reliable, true Thunderbolt 3 adapters out there that handle the full 40gbps speed? I've heard lots about how many USB-C cables and adapters exist, but that there really isn't anything available for Thunderbolt 3 yet, even though the port hardware itself exists. Is this true? I was planning on running an ethernet and an external SSD into my Blade through the thunderbolt port for the highest possible speed, but I wasn't sure I'd be able to find an actual Thunderbolt 3 cable/adapter.

    And, as @maxinfo confirmed, I'm pretty sure you can run multiple monitors through the Thunderbolt port. It's supposed to support multiple 4k displays at once.
     
  9. Do you have the link to the dock you are using?

    According to a response I just got back from Razer Support, the USB C (Thunderbolt 3) port on the Razer Blade only supports 1 monitor. Which supports what this article http://plugable.com/products/tbt3-dp2x said about the Stealth.

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  10. DaanBlankie

    DaanBlankie Active Member

    Not cheap but I use this https://www.startech.com/AV/Display...-DisplayPort-Multi-Monitor-MST-Hub~MSTDP123DP
     
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  11. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    I use the exact same one to run 3 monitors off my laptop! I add a 4th one by using their USB 3.0 to DP stick. I think it actually has a small external graphics card built inside. It can handle high resolution and works fine for regular computing, but I can't play games on that monitor. Like you said, their stuff isn't cheap, but they work!
     
  12. I ended up buy a CableCreation USB Type C to DisplayPort adapter, which has the following compatibility list, MacBook with 12" Retina Display, Lenovo Yoga 900 (Yoga 4 Pro), Google Chromebook Pixel, ASUS ROG GX700, G752, Zenbook Pro UX501VW, HP EliteBook,Dell XPS 12/ 13/ 15. Even though it doesn't say Razer Blade I figured since it worked with other brands it might work with the Razer Blade. When I plug it in a new device shows up under the Device Manager under Windows Universal Serial Bus device > PTN5002, however when I hook up a display cord that is attached to a monitor nothing happens. I verified I have the latest Thunderbolt 3, Intel and NVidia drivers. Interestingly the Thunderbolt software doesn't show any device attached.

    Honestly I am new to Thunderbolt 3 technology, is there something I failed to do to get this to work?
     
  13. hypobool

    hypobool New Member

    I've just come across this thread. I've tried using 2 different USB-C adapters but neither works for dual-head. If I connect one monitor via the HDMI on the Blade and one via HDMI on the USB-C adapter only the first display that's plugged in works. I believe then from what's already been stated that regardless of whether you're trying to connect multiple monitors via USB-C or the onboard HDMI, the 970M will only output to one display regardless of how the they are linked up. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way around this is to use a Razer Core? In which case I guess I will be buying a 4K monitor and using window snapping.
     
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2016
  14. bearda

    bearda Active Member

    I'm surprised you had a good experience with the TB15, most of the people who bought those docks has issues with them on XPS 13 and 15 systems and ended up returning them. Last I heard Dell had pulled them from sale and was now only offering the WD15 dock (usb-c, not Thunderbolt). Have you been able to remain connected to it consistently?
     
  15. I found a different adapter that works through usb-c port, however in my excitement I didn't make sure it worked while a monitor was plugged in the HDMI port. After reading your post I tried and found you are correct. Display info is only sent out via one or the other not both. :frown_:

    Well I have now ordered or preordered the core so in 10 months when they finally ship mine this won't be an issue :wink_:
     
  16. wesley27

    wesley27 Active Member

    So wait, theres some devices coming out for Thunderbolt 3 that sound amazing with great capabilities. Take a look at these - http://plugable.com/thunderbolt-3

    You're saying even with that, you still can't use two monitors through the thunderbolt port? Because it sounds like that's what it's for. Specifically the two dual-display adapters.
     
  17. P D_no_id

    P D_no_id New Member

    The best way is to buy a bunch of usb-c adapters from Walmart.com, if you have a walmart store nearby to return items to.

    I have a different brand laptop with a usb-c thunderbolt 3, and the only displayport adapter that works is one called Cellet usb-c displayport adapter, found at walmart.com

    It displays passively, and seems to bind the displayport over usb-c bus, and can output 4k@60hz.

    Other usb-c hdmi adapters may not work so well. But the TrippLite and Kanex hdmi adapters register as PTN5002 in device manager. Most of the time, the display is fine, but may flicker.

    The only usb-c hdmi adapter I have found that works is Dell hdmi 2.0 adapter part # 0M5WX
     
  18. bvinla

    bvinla New Member

    Can anyone with a Blade 2016 confirm this?

    I know the Thunderbolt 3 spec is fully Displayport 1.2 compliant, so the Thunderbolt 3 should allow daisy chaining SEVERAL monitors. So if there is any limitation it has to be due to the firmware, or how the Thunderbolt is connected to the motherboard on the Blade.

    I was going to buy this as a work / gaming computer. But if it cant drive two external monitors for my programming and testing work its not a fit. So if anyone with the hardware in hand can confirm this they'll be saving myself and other multi monitor users a bunch of pain, and Razer from having to process unnecessary returns.
     
  19. I think my response was misleading a bit. Razer said a display adapter with two display port was not supported. They did not comment on daisy chaining displays using the DisplayPort 1.2 technology. I have a Blade but not monitors that support daisy chaining and since my company forked out the money for a Core I don't think they will be willing to upgrade my monitors to ones that support daisy chaining.

    I can confirm that when you plug in a display adapter to the USB-C port the HDMI port goes offline so you cannot use both the USB-C and HDMI port at the same time to run two external monitors.
     
  20. Alon_no_id

    Alon_no_id New Member

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    Read your messages about running the Razer Blade 2016 with dual external monitors,it will be really great if you will answer me a to few questions.
    1. did you manage to do it eventually?
    2. if so, how did you get it done?
    3. I read that you can't use the HDMI and the tb3 for display in the same time, is it correct?
    4. I thought about tb3 to DP and than daisy chaining it, did you try it?
    5. which adapters worked for you?
    thanks in advance,
     
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