How to Fix: Lag, performance spikes Blade 2018 and eGPU issues

Discussion in 'Systems' started by misterg36, Sep 22, 2018.

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  1. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    So after messing around with my blade I noticed some games were getting a little choppy, even with a razer core and 1080Ti, so I did some checking...

    There are two issues (and it took me a lot of messing around to find the main culprit):

    So issue one is.. Nvidia Optimus - You will see this if your machine stats to pause lots, and frame rates dropping. I thought it was heat, but it isn't.
    There are 2 fixes:
    1. Change your Graphics drivers in this order:
    2. If you are running on power, or just want to test, this is simple: go to device manager right click the intel VGA and disable it. You may need an nvidia clean driver install. You will definitely need a reboot This cured it for me Especially issues with an eGPU!!!

    The second issue is micro stuttering, or lag. If the above doesn't work, try below...
    Sure enough when running game benchmarks I noticed some major and minor stutters in game, some times a regular micro one and sometimes really noticeable.

    For anyone with similar issues (as it seems to be a windows 10 update issue):

    Run a benchmark to see what it's like before

    1. Turn off Xbox DVR (Settings --> Gaming --> turn off all xbox stuff, especially DVR)
    2. Turn off dynamic ticks: - Run Powershell as administrator: bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
    3. Stop and disable the following service (press Windows+R -> type services.msc)
      1. Diagnostic policy service
    Reboot and run another benchmark

    I hope it helps
    @:)
    g
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
  2. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    It sounds like egpu cpu bottleneck or latency mater, yes I feel that also on some games like FFXV, Nier Automata, those are mostly not good optimized games that’s why I set not on highest setting on such games but on standard or high, maybe laptop as eGPU host would have not also optimized transfer data smoothly. Now I’m playing shadow of Tomb Raider that usually good optimized on my 2080 core v2 and I found my performance is similar with 2080/1080ti desktop setting that I saw recently on benchmarks. Too lazy to tweak this and that ;) setting to get more fps with loosing some quality just one click quality setting. 1440p is sweet spot on this game no stuttering or lags that I felt on FFXV.
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  3. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    This isnt just an eGPU issue, it was happening with the laptop 1070 AND when using an egpu even on the lowest settings - which is how I knew it was an OS issue rather than a performance one.

    I was seeing 2 different issues:
    • noticeable stuttering when running a benchmark (Ghost Recon Wildlands)
    • micro stuttering where there was a regular pattern of say 1 frame in 40 sticking - you can see it as nothing looks smooth
    Once I took all the steps above it totally disappeared

    For the record I've never seen an issue with eGPU's and performance bottlenecks (as part of my job is testing GPU performance). You get less performance than the card directly on a motherboard, but you shouldn't get any stuttering etc.

    The GTX1080Ti I use with my blade gives a very healthy 30%+fps boost and the ability to run everything at ultra (with games released at the time of posting anyway ;) ).

    I also find the system runs cooler, as the laptop GPU and CPU are not competing for airflow.
     
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  4. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Oh yes that Wildlands, I didn’t play quite a long but yes there’s micro stuttering on dGPU 1060 my old Blade in game was minimum but on benchmark quite noticeable, it was also on 1080ti core setting, moving around the maps there was also that stuttering, but I saw there’s a huge 30gb? Update, didn’t it solve the issue? Wildlands also very heavy game, I think 4K 60fps could only be done by 2080ti when I’m not wrong, like shadow of Tomb Raider I played on 1440p.
     
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  5. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    If you still get the stuttering, try these things:
    1. Turn off Xbox DVR (Settings --> Gaming --> turn off all xbox stuff, especially DVR)
    2. Turn off dynamic ticks: - Run Powershell as administrator: bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
    3. Stop and disable the following services (press Windows+R -> type services.msc)
      1. Distributed link tracking * this one may be ok but i turned it off to be sure
      2. Diagnostic policy service
    totally made it vanish for me
     
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  6. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Number one popping out some windows notification when I wanted play csgo, yes thanks I’ll try number 2 and 3 on FFXV once, Shadow of Tomb Raider and Monster Hunter has no such issues both on 1080p 144Hz Blade 1070 and 1440p Core 2080 setting (4K are struggle on 40fps because the card is just too weak that made me considering 2080ti)
     
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  7. Badgertista

    Badgertista Well-Known Member

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    Whaaaaat?
    Shouldn't the difference be even bigger than 1080ti+Core VS 1080ti in a desktop?
     
  8. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    I find the difference between razer core and desktop is 10-12fps - and most of that is probably due to the higher power desktop cpus

    eGPU's are pretty awesome
     
  9. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I was talking about shadow of the tomb Raider, look at setting above I didn’t tweak anything it’s highest (max) setting, by turning some settings down it’ll be higher, I’m good at high 4K it could go to 50ish FPS, and no in game stuttering, this game is maximized. I saw on Turing benchmarks RTX 2080 performs around high 30ish FPS on review (they use usually max setting). RAW performance between 2080 and 1080ti is around same, i could feel on my games after owning 1080ti almost a year.
     
  10. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    I've just updated the top post, as all of that still failed after time. So 2 days of messing about and 5 windows re-installs later
    The villain is..... Nvidia Optimus - You will see this if your machine stats to pause lots, and frame rates dropping. I thought it was heat, but it isn't.

    There are 2 fixes (Option 2 worked for me), but Option 1 is probably why a fresh reinstall fixes the issue, then some time later it breaks again...:
    1. Change your Intel Graphics driver (and clean install the Nvidia one) - I havent tried this but an older one is best
    2. If you are running on power, or just want to test, this is simple: go to device manager right click the intel VGA and disable it. You may need an nvidia clean driver install. You will definitely need a reboot This cured it for me Especially issues with an eGPU!!!
     
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