I present to you Firebat's Blade 15! (144hz/i7-8750H)

Discussion in 'Systems' started by Firebat246, May 24, 2018.

  1. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    So, short story long :
    - egpu is not worth if at least 1070mq
    - 2060 / 1070mq are quite as good (depends of use case)

    So, I should go on advanced with 2060 / 1070mq, the less expensive.
    9750H + 2060 = 2149,99 € (seems the best compromise on razer, but price is strange imo)
    8750H + 2060 = 2349,99 €
    8750H + 1070mq = 2349,99 €
    8750H + 2070mq = 2499,99 €

    Best case scenario would be a second hand 1070mq..
    Hypothetically, with shadow time to time, if needed.

    Thanks a lot for all your answers :heart:
     
  2. RazerInBlood

    RazerInBlood New Member

    It looks fantastic and I am pretty much curious about to know the battery life of this blade.
     
  3. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    Sounds about par for the course based on what you are looking for :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
  4. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    Yeah but more than 2K€ for shadow gaming does not make too much sense for me right now xD
     
  5. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    That 2060 9750 for €2150 is new base model, successor from base 1060maxq. It has ethernet port, empty sata 2,5 hdd that makes slightly thicker cassis, and keep in mind it has no per key Backlight, vapor chamber, and battery is 65 watt similar with previous base model only with better cpu, gpu and screen refresh rate.
     
  6. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    @Joikansai :
    Yup, after last consideration, 2070 should be a better solution regarding price.
    MQ version, should produce less heat i guess
     
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  7. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Great choice I’d go also for better gpu. Yes maxq was designed for cooler temperature and quieter Fans actually, but keep your eyes on cpu temperature since 6 cores on thin light cassis is known hot, you would play around with performance mode depending on the games title or your usage, keep it on max 80ish area and you’re good imo.
     
  8. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    Thank you for your input ! I am aware that the heat issue is from the CPU but on my previous Razer, the heat of the GPU was driven to the CPU via the heat pipe. Does the vapor chamber replace it or is there still a heat pipe "under" the chamber ?
     
  9. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    No traditional heat pipe on advanced model, only vapor chamber that cool also now VRM which is nice, predecessor Blade and most laptops doesn’t cool it but it’s important part to keep cool. Interesting btw did you mean Blade 14 heat sink? Anyway now you can also set fans rpm manually for better cooling, on rtx model it is even better with higher rpm than 2018 model.
     
  10. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    Something called "caloduc" in french :eek:
    https://www.notebookcheck.biz/fileadmin/_processed_/2/2/csm_MG_3241_13e702dfca.jpg

    I was handling the issue thanks to NBFC software back in the days :
    https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc

    Gonna wait a few weeks / months and I will probably gonna crack up and buy it.
    In French Store, the incoming version (240hz + gen9) is teased the same price, so..
     
  11. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Yes it’s all actually heat sink but different type heat pipe and vapor chamber, on metal cassis with one heat output (under screen areas) like Blade laptops vapor chamber is better to generate heat through the cassis better than heat sink.
    Actually I was curious that gpu heat drives to cpu, since my old Blade gpu temperature is always under cpu. I thought gpu isn’t problem on Blade, cpu was. I remember always limiting Turbo Boost to manage cpu temperature on low 80ish, but on Blade 15 I don’t have to, because Razer limit tdp to not boost over 45 watt on long usage but still on my usage it hit max 3,9ghz.
    Yes I remember also fan controller but I didn’t work on Blade 2016, only older one. Now I can control it well depends my needs but unfortunately there’s no 0 fans manual setting, most probably for avoiding issue user forget to switch it and use in intensive load.
    Yes I tempted always when new Blade with better specs out, but current Blade 15 1070 still works great and thanks to Razer Core I still kind can get rtx Blade experience at home lol.
     
  12. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    It was a RazerBlade 14 2016 (1060 GTX) and when gaming, even with undervolt and throttlestop, heat from GPU was transfered to CPU (heat pipe shared linking both). I could not even play properly to CSGO back in the day (external screen 1440P, 144hz). Huge FPS drop etc.

    Sounds great (no throttling), but still restrained CPU power right ? (not full performances)

    I hear you man ^^ Sounds great !
     
  13. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Yeah I remember I had also issue on cs go but I think it was due killer wireless or game setting, forgot recently didn’t play it, but remember before sold Blade 14 i tried pubg on early stage it was also laggy most probably due wireless disconnecting or maybe game optimization, but now with Intel card I don’t see wireless disconnecting issues on online games. Though I play recently less only Division 2 but it’s also not fully online like CSGo or OW that disconnecting may ruins game experience.
    Yes there’s some tdp power limitation on 2018 model to 45 watt, it’s answer from oem to intel movement that adding more cores and higher frequency on same 14 nm chip. I saw on notebookcheck almost stress test on this model year in thin light laptops hitting 90ish or even 100 for manufactures that doesn’t limit the cpu performance like MSI, Alien, and Gigabyte thin light gaming laptops, I think I see also on big cassis laptops. There’s already work around to get full performance on Blade 15, I did as well that but I don’t like extra heat that come with, performance isn’t huge difference on my case, gaming, so I revert stock bios. I prefer better temperature on this, and plus point that Blade always comes with highest tdp gpu so you don’t have to doing hassle things to get better gpu performance like by cross vbios flashing thing like other brands laptops owner with lower gpu tdp do.
     
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  14. rou6e

    rou6e New Member

    Hum..

    RTX 2060 vs RTX 2070 Max-Q on six differents laptops..


    [​IMG]
     
  15. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    All Blade rtx use 90 watt, so it performs better.
     
  16. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    2080 or no thx :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
  17. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Only 2080? Why no 2080ti :smile_:
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  18. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    Are we talking core or in Blade??? Don't get me started lmao.
     
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