I present to you Firebat's Blade 15! (144hz)

Discussion in 'Systems' started by Firebat246, May 24, 2018.

  1. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    To be fair, having used them extensively eGPU's are amazing. Although you don't get "full"/desktop performance you do get much better performance than the laptop's GPU and it is really really close.

    The "lack of bandwidth" isn't an issue at all, and you just don't get such a high frame rate - but there is no choppiness

    The only real problem is when using Optimus technology. On the blade it's perfect 80-90% of the time but can get a bit tied up due to the 3 GPUs all competing. Compared to none optimus machines where it's flawless 99% of the time.

    Once the drivers are right, it runs like a dream and gives a worthwhile boost (it also keeps your laptop cooler as the onboard GPU doesn't compete for heat.

    I've also run one on an Intel-NUC and AlienWare and both were flawless.

    The razer core/core2 are also useful because it's also a docking station - one cable and you also get an rj45 connection (though I found mice and keyboards can suffer a little) - the bandwidth of a 1gb net connection doesn't affect it.

    If you want a great comparison, look here and see the score for (in order left to right):
    • Razer Blade + 1070 maxQ
    • Razer Blade + core with 1080Ti
    • Intel Nuc + core with 1080Ti
    • Desktop with 1080Ti (7th Gen)
    • Desktop with 2x 1080Ti in SLi

    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/4427917/spy/4427216/spy/4191162/spy/3595924/spy/3595868#
     
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  2. nc_pt

    nc_pt New Member

    Hi all, you all seem to be RB15 owners and I am unsure what is the right place to post this, but it seems that my blade runs on abnormally high temperatures which I am unsure whether they are normal or not.

    Some background:
    • I have the RB15 with the GTX1070;
    • I have tested the temperatures by playing Star Wars battlefront II on medium settings for 20minutes under a normal environment (in terms of external temperature);
    • I followed the tutorial available on reddit (this one) on how to undervolt the blade and I have undervolted it -130.9mv on CPU and CPU cache; and -30 on Intel GPU. It does not seem that I can undervolt more the CPU as the blade crashes while gaming.
    Here's my throttlestop configuration:
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    This are the temperatures I am getting:

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    What else can I do?
     
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  3. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    You've got it pretty much perfect.

    almost all 8th gen (and most 7th gen) thermal throttle - ant hit way above 95c - so anything not throttling and hitting NO MORE THAN 95c is a huge win for a thin gaming laptop.

    I'm guessing you are running in normal mode rather than "gaming", so the only other thing left is the physical stuff - but like I said you nailed it :)

    Just make sure the underneath is well ventilated as air is sucked from there (so I use one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0796RVRL4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )
    as it just has two arms, so keeps it off the desk, not too high but lets the air get to it's undercarriage.

    An eGPU will drop it by another 10-15c, but that's a whole other expense.

    Mine runs exactly the same - with some games (destiny, fortnite) running cooler as they use more GPU than CPU
     
  4. Badgertista

    Badgertista Well-Known Member

    What temps are you getting if you disable TurboBoost?
     
  5. nc_pt

    nc_pt New Member

    Thanks! I was worried that these were to high as I have seen a bunch of people stating that good temperatures for long time gaming are 70C-80C a lot of RB15 users seem to be hitting that ballpark with several games on ultra. Given that I am playing on medium settings ... those seemed indeed a bit high. I guess I will wait to see what other users have to say as well.
     
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  6. misterg36

    misterg36 Active Member

    You will find none of the graphics settings make a difference on temps, medium and ultra will probably be the same.

    The intel chips at the moment run way hotter than any before 7th gen, so 85-95 is the new norm - unless the 9th gen do better.

    You will get the worst heat for games using cpu AND gpu as they fight for the cooling. Personally I found the turbo lowering made the most difference (i use 38:37:36:36:34:34).
     
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  7. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    Just tried the game, yes as @misterg36 said there will no difference between graphics setting on cpu temperature, it may change gpu temperatures but not cpu, on cpu demanding games like this game limiting cpu may decrease temperature. I don’t limit the core clock though only undervolting via xtu and balanced mode with fans 4700rpm. It is around same as yours maybe slightly higher, some core hit almost mid 90 for not a second but mostly it stays on 80ish with no cpu thermal throttling (average cores temperature right after 30 minutes gaming session 84). Using gaming mode should increase the cores temperature since it’s basically overclocking the gpu. With that setting i get mostly 80 to 90ish FPS ultra 1080p which is above 1070maxq Laptops average.
     
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  8. nc_pt

    nc_pt New Member

    This is very useful. Thank you very much!
     
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  9. Firebat246

    Firebat246 Well-Known Member

    So far.. after some more use on my latest Blade (the one I have had for a while now) I have not had issues with thermals getting out of control. IF any throttling happens it's always due to the power limit issue but never temps. My point is basically that I seem to have a pretty solid machine even with stock paste. So I really am wondering where some of these super high temps are coming from. It is also not just Blades.. I have seen this on other models. It really just may be down to Intel this time honestly...
     
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  10. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member

    Yes mine also still stock paste, unlike yours it’s my first only unit from EU first batch, the black vapor chamber one. On some titles like Far Cry 5, AC Odyssey, SoTR that really stress the cpu in some scenes, unless I disabling Turbo Boost, limiting clock frequency, which I don’t like (it’s already wasting the meaning having latest hardware), Core temperature may spikes to mid 90ish, and it’s acceptable behavior on this cpu, the important one is overall cores average temperatures on long session gaming like 2 hours or more imo, in those 3 titles I mentioned, are between high 70ish to mid 80ish, sometimes but not always some one or rarely 2 cores that hyper active;) may show thermal throttling on mid 90ish, but it’s spikes only for seconds. I noticed that because running always afterburner osd, Intel XTU Graph always on, and HWinfo64 as well on task tab.
    Btw playing Overwatch or other light games, running firestrike or xtu stress test won’t sweat it.
     
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