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Idea for for Zvault and P2P

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jayorito, Feb 5, 2018.

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  1. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    Hey guys I have ideas about Min could possibly do for P2P, having tiers such as Bronze, Gold, Platinum, Diamond and Razer Chroma being the hardest, how do you get these ranks? well its simple the more zsilvers you have you'll rankup. But you might be asking "Isn't there a 300k zsilvers limit" Well increase it to 1 million.
    UPDATE: Since the people in the comments are demanding that its unfair the ranks will now go based off XP if thats still unfair then we will go by how many razer products you have registered and how long you been part of the cult, and again if thats unfair I have no idea what any of you want please tell whats fair instead of making a rant comment. I have removed the discount on zsilver products for reasons. After each "Season" your rank will be reset every month to prevent stacking of zsilvers and possible ways of gaining of advantage.

    Here are benefits on each rank.
    Bronze: 900 Zsilver P2P limit
    Regular Zsilver prices
    and all basic Zvault access
    You get this rank at the start

    Gold: 1400 Zsilver P2P limit

    Gold Badge on your profile and excusive items
    ? XP required to get this rank

    Platinum: 2000 Zsilver P2P limit

    Platinum Badge on your profile and excusive items and perks
    ? XP
    Diamond: Currently being decided

    Razer Chroma: 4000 Zsilver P2P limit

    Razer Chroma logo Badge on your profile and excusive items and perks
    Get the lastest products 1 week early before they hit stores
    ? XP
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2018
  2. Deadman2017

    Deadman2017 Active Member

    Well its a good idea that could work.
    But the p2p limits on their one us you suggest them have no value. The higher p2p limits will matter only if there is a difference in the earnings among the ranks which will be logical but i think that it might bring more complaints too.

    Also i believe that owning and using razer products should be taken into account for the rank and the time you have spent in the p2p, razer insider and for how long you have had razer products.

    Moreover about the perks and exclusive items that you talk about can't be something too much or something too little but will more definitely motivate people to earn a rank.

    In conclusion its a good idea but it needs a lot of thinking before it can be used and it should be taken into consideration.
     
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  3. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    I agree, if you own a razer product yes you should get a rank but still this is a idea that needs a alot of thought and change, hopefully these tiers can exist
     
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  4. JungleBeast99

    JungleBeast99 Member

    I think this is really bad idea. The more zSilver you have the faster you redeem it? I think thats not good for us nor for Razer. You think more for yourself than for Razer. Did you think for a sec whats going to happen? The things will be probably worse than now. What I mean. First of all Razer will increase A LOT the prices to avoid losses. In this situation while you are lower rank it would be simply impossible to redeem a reward for very very long time untill the day you get better rank and start earning decent zSilver with normal prices. If the prices remain the same its obvious that Razer will face a lot of losses. Another thing is for the newbies will be impossible to try to get something because the higher ranks will imeddiately rob everything while it's in stock. Also once the system get full of high ranks most of the users most likely wont be able even to see available voucher.

    You probably cap your 900 zSilver everyday, but there are a lot of people out there that barely can play for 1-2 hours a day. And whats going to happen with these people? They wont get anything for years with your idea!!!
    Close this thread, thats awfull and egoistic idea in my mind. Maybe most of the users will like it, especially the grinders because your idea will help them make the things even easier for tand they will be robbing the vouchers very fast, so the normal users will not ever get anything.

    TL/DR You idea will totally break the balance, it's obvious. Giving more to the users that already have a lot, why?
     
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  5. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    You're actually being pretty disrespectful over an IDEA which can change and be updated anytime, adding tiers would not be a bad idea since alot of rewards programs have them. This isn't going to ruin anything since its an idea and like I said it can be changed
     
  6. JungleBeast99

    JungleBeast99 Member

    Only tiers would be okay, without their advantages. And again they will be useless if there isnt a season/year reset and some rewards for each tier at the end of the season (like Razer Chroma-10k Zsilver Diamond 8k and so). Thats the purpose of tiers. Otherwise one day almost everyone will get the higher tier for ever and their purpose will be lost, since there wont be a reset judging by your statement. Everyone will be Razer Chroma , have the same advantages, the least newbies will struggle to get rewards, everyone will be fighting for vouchers and the idea gets meaningless...
     
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  7. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    Getting 1 million zsilvers would be pretty hard you would need to play everyday to get it so no not everyone would be razer chroma
     
  8. .Surf.

    .Surf. Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    You're too generous, you must realize this will never happen. They have tried to reduce the redeems so that people could redeem rarely and even increased the prices nearly to it's maximum capacity. Do you think that they will agree with extending the limit on zvault and increase the p2p earnings???
     
  9. Louyar

    Louyar New Member

    I agree. This would only contribute more to the inflation and reward the hardcore gamers and not the casual ones (which actually account for the majority of gamers. Not everyone has 5 hours to spend on a game every day.) But I think that the way you phrased it could have been better.
     
  10. Aseng0221

    Aseng0221 Member

    TBH, this is the most unreasonable idea I had ever seen. For higher ties, you earn more zSilver and get more discount on zSilver price? What a selfishness idea. You never think about the balance of this zVault program. Just like JungleBeast99 said, why give more to those who already owned lots? Who's the most disrespectful person right now? If there is a dislike button, sure I will click it for this thread.
     
  11. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    Again this is an IDEA the whole point of me posting this for feedback and changes not to be disrespected by people who think "this isn't balanced" im not being selfish at all, Do you guys ever read the title like come on it obviously say idea. Stop hating, and tell me what I should change for "Balance" last time im responding to hate unless im defending myself
     
  12. Aseng0221

    Aseng0221 Member

    If you don’t want the other to disrespected this thread, change your content with reasonable idea but not unfair and unreasonable idea. Else don’t create such a thread, Thanks.
     
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  13. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    "change your content with reasonable idea but not unfair and unreasonable idea." Again tell me what to change or add and I'll be glad to, instead of telling me its unfair tell me whats unfair about and what to adjust
     
  14. Aseng0221

    Aseng0221 Member

    Since you don’t want to hear anything about balance here balance there, then think by yourself :)
     
  15. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    I never said I didn't want to hear about balance, again tell me what to change to make it BALANCE
     
  16. danad1138

    danad1138 New Member

    For Razer as a company, this model would be quite disproportionate. the longer someone uses the surface, the more money Razer loses on it. if this were implemented, it would likely be shut down quickly due to the unsustainable nature of the model.
     
  17. JungleBeast99

    JungleBeast99 Member

    What to change ? Everything! Even if we keep only the idea for tiers adding to them season reset and some rewards at the end of the season, the idea remains useless idea because maybe the casual gamers and the real fans who dont grind will probably end at some middle tier and all the CHROMAs will be those grinders.

    And what you mean by disrespectfull ? Whats your definition for it at all, since im not the best at english. What you want, to respect your idea and close my eyes for the truth and lie its a good idea, lol? Well, its terrible idea and i can't say something good for it and thats my right, I'm free to say what I think and it doesnt means im disrespectfull !!! I'm just telling you the truth i dont consider it like disrespectfull. The only disrespectfull thing i can see here is your idea for its egoistic aim!
     
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  18. Jayorito

    Jayorito Well-Known Member

    I have now changed it, I've added XP required instead of zsilvers (How thats even going to work I dont even know) I've added seasons and remove the discount to zsilver products. Every month now you will be reset back to bronze. Pretty fair I would say
     
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