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Interesting idea for Paid to Play

Discussion in 'Razer Cortex' started by Min-Liang Tan, Aug 14, 2017.

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  1. Jazza2400

    Jazza2400 Well-Known Member

    Ooooo maybe in game achievements like getting ranks in competitive overwatch (have to screen shot them in forums with battletag and the. If you could have badges in the forum so you know who is good and how many chicken dinners they've had xD
  2. XxTheBeastNL

    XxTheBeastNL New Member

    I'm not sure I agree with this approach. I personally only own two razer products (Nabu X & Goliathus). I love to support the gaming community and progress it by testing and using products like razer cortex. Since I am a 20 year old student without a job I cannot afford any razer gear and would be "expelled" from the paid to play program. I do however see your concern in selling razer products bought with zSilver. Personally I find it a better idea to award users over time or for owning razer products.

    A user owning razer products is awarded more zSilver for using the Paid to Play program. But a user like me will also be able to build op to the same rewards over time. By grinding Paid to Play games and eventually becoming an owner of a razer product them self.

    I am waiting until I have enough zSilver so I can redeem a mouse or keyboard. Which means I am not even close to my first product. But I'm already exited for my first razer product.
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  3. gobi42

    gobi42 Active Member

    I agree with limiting it to people who own razer products. And as far as being expelled or somthing cause you can't afford a razer product. Just a quick search of google showed me a brand new razer death adder for 15 USD, and 32 USD. A razer naga chroma for less than 60 usd. So it's not that hard to own a razer product and earn zsilver to upgrade it. I don't like the different reward levels for owning more products or higher priced product i.e laptops, Just make it the same for all razer product owners. I also would like more games per month with maybe 2 or 3 with 2x zsilver as voted on by the community.
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  4. fritopower

    fritopower New Member

    Is there a poll for us to vote what we want for the items that can be redeemed xD
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  5. SilkKheldar

    SilkKheldar New Member

    That's an interesting thought. I mean the boost wouldn't have to really even be astronomical. Maybe you can gain an extra 300 silver a day per item or something like that. You still have to put in the work and time but now more of your hours count. Neat idea. Hopefully they bite.
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  6. J.O.Z.Y

    J.O.Z.Y New Member

    I'd say let gamers who already own Razer products enjoy the full catalogue while those who don't can only use zSilver to redeem discounts and maybe some cheaper peripherals
    TheLionOfOrange likes this.
  7. TheLionOfOrange

    TheLionOfOrange New Member

    This is probably a little too late to change anything, but here's what i think:
    Obviously everyone who has bought Razer products before is going to be for it, and everyone who has not will be against it. Pretty simple. I think this could be met halfway by limiting only part of the rewards to existing fans. Let them keep the privilege to get free Razer gear and all the other zSilver rewards, and meanwhile limit the store for people who haven't bought Razer products to only smaller rewards like game product keys and the gift cards. Would be a reasonable change that would give existing Razer fans an extra bonus while not simply giving everyone else the finger.
    Opinions on this?
  8. drazenosijek

    drazenosijek New Member

    seems like a fair and good idea. please go through with it
  9. Datrat

    Datrat Well-Known Member

    Cool Idea, but not 300, I'd say around 150-200. But this might work. But I wouldn't know if it would because I'm not Min Liang-Tan. But zSilver is for the less fortunate gamers, so I guess we can wait and see. I love the program though, I like to be able to vote on the next games. Good job Razer!!!
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  10. DiviXion

    DiviXion New Member

    I think the system should reward those with Razer products with a small boost. What my suggestion would be is to keep the cap for those without any Razer products the same but those who have a Razer product will get a 10% cap and boost (from the base amount of 900) compared to the current normal cap. Not only that but it should be capped at 5 products, meaning 50%. If you have more than 5 Razer products, good stuff but it's to prevent farming zSilver easier that way.

    Basically, having no Razer products means you will earn 900 zSilver at most and 3 per minute. If you have 1 product, you are able to earn 990 silver per day at the rate of 3.3 per minute, meaning you will still have to play for 300 minutes a day to reach the cap. This will cap at 50%, meaning the most you can earn will be 1350 zSilver per day and at a rate of 4.5 per minute.

    This system still rewards those without any Razer equipment the same way it is now but once you get your first piece of equipment, the grind won't be as long as it would be the first time around, so it will still reward those that support Razer. Including the active gameplay feature in Razer Cortex, I do think it's a bit harder to abuse the system unlike a few months ago, when you were able to AFK a game overnight and pick up the zSilver that way.

    Anyways, that's just my suggestion and I think it would work really well. Any flaws in the system, feel free to reply and I'll try figure out ways to improve this idea of mine.
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  11. Datrat

    Datrat Well-Known Member

    Can't like because I hit the 5 mark, but I LIKE this idea. Better than mine or my suggestion.
  12. HEGGA

    HEGGA Active Member

    Well... I do understand it makes sense to reward loyal customers instead allowing people to just farm zSilver and then sell whatever item they are able to get on ebay.

    However, there are some issues with Synapse approach... At this moment, I personally own 4x Razer items and none of them would validate me as a Razer gear owner if Synapse is used... :)

    For those who are wondering... I own:

    Kraken – Analog Music & Gaming Headphones
    Leviathan 5.1 soundbar
    Rogue backpack (got it through P2P program and I wear it proudly :) )
    Goliathus extended mouse mat which I got as a gift.

    I live in a country with bad economy and with huge customs taxes and I am unable to afford something as expensive as Razer mechanical keyboard, so change in the program to go through Synapse and make it count only if you have Razer USB peripherals, would actually taken that opportunity away from me.

    I had to get that sexy Rogue backpack first as I was hoping I could get it since Min teased us while he was testing it... but now... the game is on for Razer BlackWidow XTournament Edition Chroma.. Or at least I hope :)
  13. untraceablez

    untraceablez New Member

    @Min-Liang Tan

    Honestly, I wouldn't eliminate the system entirely for non-gear owners. You'll limit new fans who lack the financial resources to obtain them normally.

    However, an incentive for people who own the gear already would be good, so creating tiers would be a great idea!

    I'm thinking a tier system, similar to competitive Overwatch.

    Bronze - No gear (regular zsilver rate)
    Silver - 1 peripheral (1.5 x zsilver rate)
    Gold -2 razer peripherals (2x zsilver rate)
    Diamond - 3 (2.5x zsilver rate)
    (Ignore 4, more unlikely)
    Platinum - 5 (3x zsilver rate)

    [metal] + chroma - 1 or more peripherals and a Razer laptop/tablet/phone (as per the new announcement) (+.5 zsilver rate on top of whatever tier they're at)

    Also, a general increase of the daily cap from 900 to 1200 (30% increase), and double caps / double rates apply as normal.

    Diamond & Platinum would be able to 'favorite' one game that will always produce Zsilver, no matter the monthly refreshes, as long as the game has been on the paid to play list at least once.
  14. IchBinAnil

    IchBinAnil New Member

  15. ArcherViceRazer

    ArcherViceRazer New Member

    Hello,that is kinda unfair,if you give "free stuff" why should there be discrimination of who have razer n who don't,
    this is for community,so I think everyone should have same odds of winning.
    My opinion is,give those grindders/sellers some restriction,like winner must unpack the prize in a short clip if he wants to win again,Everyone should have a % of winning :)
    Best of all
  16. Randomness10101

    Randomness10101 New Member

    Honestly I agree with what the guy in FB has said and I do think that Razer fans should be more rewarded as compared to non-Razer fans but this is actually quite hard to track whether one is a fan or not by looking at whether he has the gear. Personally, I'm a fan of Razer but I find it difficult to afford for all the gear so maybe not close it off because I am one who uses Cortex to earn some gear.. (shipping is fine since I can at least afford it..)
    Those who just sell the gear on eBay I don't think that they deserve the gear but I don't think it is fair to close the deal to everyone? Though it is a possible solution to the current problem I think it can be further considered
  17. LukeTheBrave

    LukeTheBrave Active Member

    I agree with this idea as in this way there cannot be duplicate accounts to have double points and this will limit this sort of cheating
  18. JackFromFarmState

    JackFromFarmState New Member

    For the people who complain, just take their cortex away.
  19. tofi386

    tofi386 New Member

    i would also like to know that since i live in russia
  20. Digit89

    Digit89 New Member

    I really thought that was the actual fact.
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