Interesting idea for Paid to Play

Discussion in 'Razer Cortex' started by Min-Liang Tan, Aug 14, 2017.

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  1. LoveInWonder

    LoveInWonder New Member

    Honestly speaking, I myself do not think that it will work. There are two type of people who would sell their gear earned thru paid-to-play, either they just want to earn money, or they already owned razer gear. If you're going to track with synapse, this means that those who really do not have the money to purchase razer products would not be able to earn any thru this program. Since you mention that this program is to help people who do not have the money to purchase your gears, why not limit every single item to be redeemed only once? There's no such thing as perfect, we cant stop those people who create multiple accounts just to participate in the event, get the rewards and sell it for money. However, this would allow those poor people to own a razer product from this, while preventing people who tried to earn profits using this program.
     
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  2. elrazumes

    elrazumes New Member

    Totally copied my idea, but i'm glad that somebody thinks that this is the model that will suite everybody :)
     
  3. Oswolrf

    Oswolrf New Member

    I haven´t any Razer gear because I can´t afford it at the momment and that is the reason because I am using Paid to Play i want to try razer gear if is good i will buy more razer gear when i can afford it in the future.
     
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  4. Chilli_QLTan

    Chilli_QLTan New Member

    Build a more cohesive community together guys.... stop hatin :D
     
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  5. dongerbob

    dongerbob Member

    I think its honestly a good idea,give back to the loyal Razer fans I have been only using Razer products since 2013 and I have never regretted it and I am aiming towards a new keyboard and I honestly was so surprised when I found about the paid to play.Like honestly Razer is taking chances and actually care about their fans and giving back to the community . Thank you Razer honestly for giving people like me(college student) A way to get free gear when gaming on the weekends.
     
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  6. X10KTat1664x

    X10KTat1664x New Member

    just a few thoughts on this idea. I'm a console player (lack of funds for pc) so I'm not a part of p2p but would be something for you to look into maybe (I use razer head sets and considering the Xbox controller too), the other thought is some way of adding zSilver-plus for streamers (near free product placement) so that's my seeds planted ill let you try and grow them into razer flowers
     
  7. SoulPeace

    SoulPeace New Member

    Is this the place to ask if zSilver rewards will be available in Bulgaria anytime soon ? I was pretty heartbroken to see that I won't be able to redeem anything. I do have all my PC peripherials by Razer, but not even one from Chroma edition stuff.
     
  8. Hucast

    Hucast Well-Known Member

    This is the one where you ask him to cut the deadweight and get rid of the Corsair and Logitech vermin, and only allow his real people to participate. Not the fakes one.

    You add the Bulgaria shipping after as an addendum.
     
  9. FiszPL

    FiszPL Well-Known Member

    Hmm... Paid to Play for Razer users only seems to be a good idea. Probably most of these people whining about Paid to Play program are users that don't have any Razer device, and want to get one (for free). I don't judge, because we can't put all users to the same "box".

    There is also possibility, that non-Razer user, when he gets his reward, probably he'll buy another gear from Razer. But what user percentage will do this? We don't have such statistics/estimations. I know few people (especially in Poland) that they want to buy some Razer gear, but can't afford (unfortunatelly it's more expensive, than in Germany for example).

    Haters always gonna hate, no matter what. IMO Paid to Play is a great move from Razer (noone has such program to reward loyal users, hardcore gamers), and a great advertisement for them.
     
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  10. Jose Sandoval_no_id

    Jose Sandoval_no_id New Member

    I think that the idea is great but the program needs to have some games that are always on the list of earning zsilver, games like World Of Warcraft, MMORPG, MOBAS, etc... those type of games that consume a lot of time. They need to be on the list as default every month of earning Zilver since this games consume so much time and basically everyone who plays them is gonna be able to enjoy the Zsilver program.
    I think overall the benefits are great and Razer came up with a great idea, but some "hardcore" gamers are not going to benefit from it because most of the people play just one game all the time.
     
  11. FiszPL

    FiszPL Well-Known Member

    I like the idea of new Paid to Play system. It's more balanced - 5 new games each month, 2 of them are choosen by the community, other 3 games are the most played on cortex. We'll see how it will look like after few months (if they will repeat etc.). For Razer it's a good oportunity to earn some money, because some people will buy games with zGold.
     
  12. FiendRiver666

    FiendRiver666 Active Member

    Single player meaning main game. Yes, I know GTA has online, but GTA in essence, is a single player game.

    I am aware what an MMORPG is. That's more than just a standard multiplayer game.
    As for WoW having an eSport presence, that I was unaware of. But games I was referring to more, are common eSports that usually use teams as opposed to doing things individually, or games that are strictly 1v1 (Cards, Fighters, etc.).
     
  13. Brisingr_Phoenix

    Brisingr_Phoenix Active Member

    With the amount of time (and possibly money) that would have to be put into grinding zsilver to earn+sell a blackwidow (for example), you might as well get a minimum wage job and put aside 7 hours to buy it.
     
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  14. Hiffix

    Hiffix New Member

    So are u gonna give us some thought after this few pages? :)
     
  15. SoulPeace

    SoulPeace New Member

    I don't really like the idea of game rotation. For example, I only play PUBG, H1z1 and CS:GO. So basicly, I can earn zSilver one month, and the other month I won't. And considering that, it would take me probably 2-3 years to get enough zSilver for a Keyboard, even getting the 900 points per day,everyday that my played game is in the list.

    So my question is, since PUBG is in the list for August, is it 100% sure its gonna be removed for September ?
     
  16. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    I'll be honest, I couldn't really care less about the actual conversation between you two or discussing MMO vs other definitions or trying to define e-sports and whatever ... no offense, but it's just not my thing. lol

    However, I am going to at least toss in that WoW does have team e-sports through their PvP play. They have 3v3 and 5v5 PvP and hold tournaments for it. So, I think they still qualify as being tossed in with the team sports theme.
     
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  17. ZazasLT

    ZazasLT New Member

    I think that's not a good idea as people who really cannot afford the gear would be left out. And you should just ignore those jerks who complain that it's too slow tog get free gear, free keyboard a year is quite a lot.
     
  18. DJSkinz

    DJSkinz New Member

    I think its a good idea but needs some tweaks. Maybe limit the kind of items non-Razer owners can receive or reduce zSilver limits for people with Razer items, like allowing them to earn zSilver in whatever game they want instead of adhering to the rotating game line up.

    For example: Non-Razer owners can only get mouse pads and/or Razer gear. While Razer owners can get anything on available the zSilver store

    Something to consider,
    DJ Skinz

    P.S. Love the products and the brand!
     
  19. retroPearsigns985

    retroPearsigns985 New Member

    Not a fan of the Razer peripherals limited only, neither of the 5 games rotation.


    1. I was pretty happy about jumping to my Overwatch, Counter and League games to have fun and get some points toward a new mechanical keyboard or a mouse, or whatever other kind of device once I get the points to. The new system felt very limiting and forced me to go into SC2 which I enjoy it in its day, but I don't find it as engaging as the game I'd choose to play nowadays. If you want to introduce some variety I would have rather go with a mix of general games, which are the most played, as you were already and have a group of known rotations.

    2. Limiting this program to new interested people in razer products just because the don't own them doesn't feel right either. Until now I went with a mix of peripherals. I was never a one brand only guy, and it's generally hard to get to try headsets, keyboards or mice further from playing around for a few seconds in a store (where often you are not going to end buying it as it cheaper at the internet.) So I was expecting this to get me a go with some of the keyboards in particular, which is what interested me the most.

    3. Limiting the zVault program to already owners only I would expect to increase the problem of sold devices by eBay, rather than promoting new people to come into the community. Plus is also a possible loss for you, Razer Company, as you are loosing a way more plausible member to renovate their stuff by paying if they were really engage by your quality product.
    Those are my thoughts, now my story is: I have a mix of everything

    • A Logitech mechanical keyboard (it was the most sober one, without all the "gaming shapes"). I am happy with how it works but the key's painting are getting worn out, which is disappointing

    • A Steelseries mouse which I am plane happy with it, I would just miss a braided cable. I got to try one of your mice at a friends house and it was equally good with the things I was missing about mine

    • headphones from Audio Technica with a mod mic 4
    What I mean with this? There is also a kind of custome, me (I think) who is no devotee of any brand in particular, but who found about this program and thought it was a very engaging and nice way to get on with the community and to test products. It never crossed my mind to sell any of the things I would get from here, and I don't think is worth the effort. Any of the things I would be able to get with my 50K after playing for half a year are not really super valuable things I could sell anywhere, and the more beefy stuff I am aiming for, I want them for myself.


    I would love to get them playing the games I choose to play, but I get you are a company and the 5 games move was a limiting strategy, which I am fine with. But please, at least don't take me away a path to actually get Razer products doing what I liked to do, play games just because a couple of shiny mugs are going around by eBay, that's not something is going to stop, at least I don't think is that easy to stop limiting it to the Razer owners already.


    Kind regards


    Candec
     
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  20. App1e

    App1e Active Member

    Amazing idea, i see a lot of people crying about out of stock problem on forum
     
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