Interesting idea for Paid to Play

Discussion in 'Razer Cortex' started by Min-Liang Tan, Aug 14, 2017.

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  1. firdaus_yahaya

    firdaus_yahaya New Member

    think paid to play is good because it give a someone who that cant afford a razer gear
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  2. xenonexia

    xenonexia Member

    Poor soul! When you put it that way, I really do feel for you. That was really heartfelt wasn't it? =) I'll take back anything I've ever said, on my part, to give you comfort. If only for a short while, before I tear down people's worlds again. ;-)

  3. mazupicua

    mazupicua Member

    Well in my case i have a naga 2014 that has water damage so i have it as a backup (2 buttons don't work) and i use a non Razer mouse but i am a Razer fan. I really don't think it should only be for people that have Razer gear. I was in a better position (economically) before and could afford them but let's face it Razer products are expensive and i get it you get what you pay for so the price is justified but i am a fan of the brand and i am trying to grind for a keyboard (next a mouse in a couple of months :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:) so in my opinion maybe getting a bonus if you have Razer gear but not take it off for non customers. Sadly you're never going to please everyone sooo... i think it's good how it is, I'd add a little bonus for people that own the gear.
  4. AcidGrease

    AcidGrease New Member

    Razer is not able to detect every Razer Hardware. For Example my Wife is using a Razer Kraken with Analog Input and a Razer Pro Solutions V 1.6, both Items not compatible with Razer Synapse. In principle its possible that not Razer Fans can sell rewarded Razer Hardware. But where had the Guy the information that the selling Product was an Razer Reward. I can't belive that the Online Seller write in the description "zSilver Reward for Selling". Only Indication is the Mugholder. In principle it is possible which one was rewarded and then ascertained that is not what one had expected. It takes several months to get rewarded and selling rewarded zSilver Hardware is not worthwile in my opinion.Hhardwarebased tracking is not a good Option, maybe it's possible to find additional activity parameter like the the Login Bonus.
  5. FiszPL

    FiszPL Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Razer Pro Solutions V1.6 mouse was released in ~2006. None company gives you 11 year product support. It's not compatible with the newer Synapse application, but you can always install Pro Solutions drivers. Which exactly model (you can post model number) of Krakens do you have? They should be supported by Synapse 2.0
  6. mesh2210

    mesh2210 New Member

    but sometime does not give silver points :slightly_sad: may look in to it pls
  7. BlackSailss

    BlackSailss New Member

    So i don't have anything from razer yet, and i have like 30000 zsilver i always wanted razer mouse not to sold it but to use it. I'm like 2 months away from getting it using cortex, playing games etc. If you close it, i will not be geting anything right? So it would be damn wery unfair atleast for me, i was and i'm playing games that i would propably never play if not a chance to get razer mouse.
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  8. CiannPT

    CiannPT Active Member

    I agree with the idea of limiting the access to paid to play. I have bought a Razer Deathadder and I can't really afford to buy a complete Razer setup, and I'm really grateful for the opportunity to get new gear to go with the mouse.
    I think that everyone that really wants Razer gear have at some point tried some razer product and therefore have it connected to synapse. Those who haven't tried it yet will probably buy some cheaper product before they become fans.
  9. ki1418z

    ki1418z New Member

    Good idea for detect user to have Razer products, but your technology could support this idea?
  10. JustJozef

    JustJozef Active Member

    Synapse already keeps track of which products you have, warranty status and such. Like he said, it would be easy to implement.
  11. KylarFI

    KylarFI Member

    As a long time Razer fan and a finally an owner of a Razer mouse i'm not sure about this change. Maybe a bonus to people that have Razer products but I think that if someone is taking the time to use your Razer Cortex program then they should have the right to earn a product. Maybe at a slower rate. You can't control what people do after they get the product, some people just do it for money which is unfortunate and some of us, like myself just want more Razer gear. I know i'm saving up for a Keyboard myself to match my mouse and mouse pad.

    Only issue is tracking through synapse is what about those who have Razer gear that is not supported like older headphones?
  12. shamaraenixia

    shamaraenixia New Member

    I feel the same as I am from the Philippines too. I just continue to play and play and earning zSilver even though Philippines is not qualified to redeem any rewards.. I just continue saving zSilvers hoping one day, our country will be eligible to redeem rewards. I am not complaining or whatnot but as the original intent of the Paid-to-Play program are for those who can't buy Razer gear may have the chance to have it for themselves and I completely understand that this may change any moment. I'll just move on and respect Razer's move in the future. Cheers.
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  13. elrazumes

    elrazumes New Member

    Easy to implement, YES.
    Will it solve the problem with people taking advantage to get some extra $$$? NO!!!!!!
  14. AcidGrease

    AcidGrease New Member

    I'm not talking about Product Support, i'm talking about the suggestion Razer User only will get rewarded with zsilver. And i don't think its right to waste a working mouse for zSilver Support.
    The Razer Headphone must be an Razer Kraken Pro, it has an Analog Connection and is not supported by Synapse.
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  15. FrozenFireVR

    FrozenFireVR Well-Known Member

    I came across this only today. I've been earning zSilver for the a few months now, never complained, and half way there now for my first product. While I always greatly appreciated Razer, I never got a chance to buy one of their products (and it not being available in my country doesn't help). Personally, there's no way I'm selling the gear I get through this. But if others are doing so, you need to do what you need to do. One thing though... Those who are in it for selling the stuff, are most likely to have bought and use atleast one Razer product, so this is unlikely to help.
  16. H00dy

    H00dy Well-Known Member

    Yeah! Those greedy bastards gets free mugs and sells them on ebay, and those poor forever Razer fans who gets nohting, whatta shame. Don't make me laugh.
    Razer did AWESOME work with this idea and should giva a sheet about complains. Take it or leave it, these are the rules.
    Lancehead is coming to me and THANK YOU Razer for this let say program because i would never afford it.
    Paid 10EUR porto and tax, could give 10 more, but 90 is waaaaay to much for me.
    Thank you, great work and keep it up.
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  17. elrazumes

    elrazumes New Member

    So.... You took my Lancehead... :mad_::mad_::mad_:
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  18. ThirdDegreePun

    ThirdDegreePun Well-Known Member

    Super late to this thread...mah bad.

    I think the system is pretty good as it is, but wouldn't be against curating it to reward loyal fans even more. The biggest thing I want to see is getting zSilver from purchases from the online RazerStore credited to your account depending on the item bought and how much it cost etc. I find it slightly unusual that this whole currency system doesn't apply to the Razerstore and I think that'd be a great way to boost your zSilver balance.

    Additionally if there was an option to 'Pay the Rest' on zSilver rewards you can't afford with your current balance that'd be pretty neato too, basically getting a more sizable discount than the simple 5/10/20 vouchers, especially if you're most of the way there and just get impatient.

    As per locking it down to only people who already own gear, I do think it goes against your original intent with this system; to help passionate gamers discover and possibly get their first piece of Razer gear. It seems like a fantastic way to reward people who love games and to bring them into the cult where so they can start looking up how much their body parts go for on the black market.

    The rate of actually earning a reward is slow, but completely fair for what you're getting and that it's, you know, free. Some people just feel like they're entitled to stuff without doing anything and I'll never understand it.

    But yeah TL;DR:
    - Earn zSilver on RazerStore purchases.
    - 'Pay the rest' on zSilver rewards if you can't afford, or introduce higher discount voucher denominations.
    - System's good otherwise.
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  19. Hucast

    Hucast Well-Known Member

    Oh God! lol Imagine if they did that? You think people are gaming the system now, Imagine if Razer opened up that candy store? RLMAO
    I'm not trying to devalue your opinion OP. The thought was just funny to me.
  20. ThirdDegreePun

    ThirdDegreePun Well-Known Member

    How would they game that part of the system though? You'd have to purchase direct from Razer and be buying stuff already? It'd be the least gameable part of the system if this was introduced?
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