Is it okay to use anti-rust (anti-oxidant) on a keyboard?

Discussion in 'Keyboards' started by Azlux, Jan 3, 2017.

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  1. Azlux

    Azlux New Member

    I plan on getting the Blackwidow X Chroma but I heard about the rust problem and since I live close to the sea I am a bit scared. But what if I use some kind of anti-rust/oxidant spray on the base and front of the keyboard ( not under the keys, just in the visible part ), will it work and help with the lifespan of the keyboard?
    Thanks for help in advance : )
     
  2. Jenjar

    Jenjar Well-Known Member

    I have not heard of anyone putting that on the Blackwidow X or any keyboard before, So i do not know if it would be a good idea or not. If you get it in the wrong place, It may cause problems for you.
    If I were in your place, I would wait until Razer does something about the problem before you buy one. The Blackwidow X has recently been taken out of main retail stores I find, So they may be doing something to stop the problem. I suggest you also Contact Support first to see if they have anything to say on it, Just to make sure.
    If you decide to go trough with it, Make sure to not mess up and get it on anything wrong, And keep an eye on the keyboard for any sign of rust, and contact support immediatly. The rust is also dangerous to breath, so you should also get rid of it and put it somewhere else, and use another keyboard while you talk to Razer support.
     
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  3. Danintator121

    Danintator121 New Member

    It will indeed rust, no doubt about it. I just received contact from Razer Support and this is what they had to say about the Blackwidow X rusting issues.

    RAZER SUPPORT:
    "Thank you for contacting Razer Technical Support. My name is Frank and I will be assisting you with the issue you reported.

    As I understand from your ticket, you want to purchase Razer BlackWidow X Chroma and you are wondering if the keyboard is having a rusting issue. It is true that this model of BlackWidow has a metal surface and sometime it got rusty, but it actually depends on the user.

    Some users have a sweaty hand, then yes the metal is quickly rusting due to the combination of water and oxygen on the metal surface. However, if you take care a good care of the keyboard, then most likely the keyboard will not rust at all."

    It's really a damn shame. I was looking forward to getting this keyboard on the CES appreciation sale(I'm in Asia so we still have stock) but you heard it here first, Razer just admitted that their product with "military-grade metal" RUSTS due to SWEAT. Razer support couldn't even guarantee me a replacement unit that wouldn't rust obviously because they still haven't found a solution to the problem.

    #BWXRust #BWXSweat #ManUp #Don'tLockThisThread #UseAluminum #UseHighGradeMetal #StopFalseAdvertising
     
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  4. Azlux

    Azlux New Member

    I asked them if it is okay to use the anti-rust spray thing (carefully of course. I will probably spray on a cloth and then apply on the keyboard). Will update when they answer...but yeah I wanted to buy it too : (
     
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  5. Danintator121

    Danintator121 New Member

    Welp, after 2 weeks of deliberation and digging through BWX forums, I've decided to get a Corsair K70 LUX Blue LED, Cherry MX Red next week instead. Unless someone or an administrator can convince me otherwise that I can get a Blackwidow X Chroma that won't rust or receive a replacement BWX that doesn't rust.

    Damn, what a waste of an appreciation sale, for me anyways. Will probably just get a large mouse mat during the sale. I wanna love Razer products so much, but a business is a business and I just can't stand behind products that don't meet quality control standards. Especially ones that advertise falsely, ahem, "military-grade metal."

    Exceptions:
    Goliathus mouse mats
    Leviathan speakers(not mini)
    ........Those are all I've owned that haven't failed :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
  6. Azlux

    Azlux New Member

    Yep. They recommended me to not buy it if I live close to the sea (which I do) and they don't know if anti-rust will work because they don't know the exact cause yet. So rip BWX. Now I gotta decide between Blackwidow Chroma or Ducky Shine 5.
     
  7. Active13245

    Active13245 Active Member

    Unfortunatley that'a a little shame you know, I am huge fan of TE Razer keyboard due to compact size, but it seems that X TE is not a good deal at all. It has nothing to do with TE properties expect size. You don't have detachable cable, no carrying case, you can catch rust just by cleaning your keyboard with wet cloth...that's ridiculous. I was considering picking up one, but I will stay with standard TE. Even the "swag" is smaller, you don't get this nice packaging for all manuals and stickers anymore. Shame Razer, I hoped you were finally getting better :slightly_sad:
    You know I still recomend BW TE Chroma. I have non TE version and it's amazing. You can safely purchase new BW TE or non TE Chroma from Razer store and you will get new Greetech switches, they said they will change it for all BW series. Overall they are a lot better, longer life etc. :)
     
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  8. Azlux

    Azlux New Member

    Sadly I can't buy from the razer store since they don't ship to Brazil. And I decided I will buy the Chroma TE edition (after a lot of people telling me its very ergonomic haha), and hopefully get the greetech switches.
     
  9. Active13245

    Active13245 Active Member

    Don't get me wrong, I really recommend BW TE Chroma. Standard version is awesome, so Chroma is even more fun. And growing library of integration makes this technology even better. I think you will be happy ;) Good luck mate!
     
  10. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Also brighter LEDs and choice of green or orange switches. Finally someone that gets it.

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    You can always just get a normal BW Chroma?
    I wouldn't recommend a spray. You don't have the precision you need for application onto the keyboard. Check this out. If you do go this route, put product onto microfiber cloth first then wipe on. Don't put directly onto product first. Of course, remove all keycaps before doing anything.
     
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  11. Active13245

    Active13245 Active Member

    Thank you @Raijin ! Once you go TE you never go back. I don't know if BW X TE can be named TE, it should be named tenkeyless :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
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  12. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    No, thank YOU for understanding. I think most people just buy full size keyboards without thinking because that's the norm. I guess you can't blame them, but if you do the research, the advantages of TE are there. More ergonomic placement of the mouse, detachable cable, saves desk space, keyboard is more symmetrical, travel friendly, costs less, etc. It's just more pro.

    I am never going back to full-size.

    Now I'm trying out 60%. It's crazy dude:
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  13. GentlemanShark

    GentlemanShark New Member

    @Raijin I used to use a 60%, couldn't get used to the lack of arrow keys (I know, I know fn layer) since I do a lot of keyboard navigation. I use a 65% which is perfect except in Battlefield where you use the Fn keys to switch spots in a vehicle.
     
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  14. Active13245

    Active13245 Active Member

    Oh man, you read in my mind. That was EXACTLY what I was thinking about when buying BW TE. More space for the mouse, I can just detach cable and clean it, I don't need to drag whole cable and unplug it from my PC, more space overall. And you are right, all of my friends buy normal size keyboards because...it's normal, they don't think about it. When to come to me they say: "man that's really small keyboard". And you know what, I will NEVER go back to normal size as well! :D

    I must say, this 60% keyboard looks amazing. This minimalistic design makes this keyboard beatiful. I'm not sure if I could get used to it, lack of some keys might make gaming a little bit difficult. But overall it looks sick! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
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  15. GentlemanShark

    GentlemanShark New Member

    @Active13245 Just set up an Fn layer and get used to it. When you play a game, map functions to other keys. For Battlefield, I have a 65% with a insert and delete key I never use so I set those as my F1 and F2 keys which works out okay for moving around a vehicle quickly enough.
     
  16. Active13245

    Active13245 Active Member

    Hmm that's good idea when you think about it, good way around. But for now I will stick to BW TE size :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
  17. GentlemanShark

    GentlemanShark New Member

    I used a TKL for a bit and it worked fine, but I still end up hitting it with my mouse.
     
  18. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    No you're right. I miss the arrow keys and navigation cluster. 65% is almost perfect for me because it has the arrow keys and the exact nav buttons I need (del, home, end) but I don't know if I can get used to the weird right shift/ctrl keys. 65% is also more rare and harder to find than 60%. Some things on TKL I never use like most of the the function row or things like insert, scroll lock, pause break...
    I really couldn't have said it any better myself, you nailed it. I have some cable management going on for my home setup so if I want to clean the keyboard I would have to undo everything to unplug the USB :expressionless:. Now I can just unplug it and go.
    These plebians will never understand us, the enlightened masters of the master race.
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    Hey thanks! I think the minimalist design of 60% is beautiful too. But I probably will use it mostly for typeracing. My mouse is super close to my keyboard when using it though which is generally regarded as better:
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    I can't wait until some 40% user jumps into our conversation and calls us all peasants.
     
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  19. Danintator121

    Danintator121 New Member


    I REALLY wanted the Blackwidow X because it's easier to clean with the exposed key cap design :slightly_sad: I have owned a regular Blackwidow 2014(non Chroma) and the Blackwidow Evil Geniuses E Sports edition. I recently gave them away because I just got sick of cleaning them. Process was way too tedious for me especially because my keyboards gets dirty very fast.

    It's really a shame how the BWX turned out. It was the perfect solution for me. Hopefully Razer will make some changes to the metal they use with the BWX this year :) I hope they use aluminum but we all know expensive that would be :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: What I would really want and what other people have suggested is an "ALL METAL" Blackwidow X Chroma, with all the key caps being metal as well :D

    #Razer2017Goals #RazerFixBWX #RazerHopeful #RazerAluminum #BWXAllMetal
     
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  20. Destrok

    Destrok Well-Known Member

    I have had a BWX chromas since it was released. Not a single spot of rust to be seen anywhere. I'm not in a climate near an ocean or anything, but I sweat, and our summers get hot, and the keyboard looks as good as it did on the day I got it if I wipe it down. Not sure why people are having rust issues or what they are doing to their keyboards, but I have had, and rigorously used mine for quite some time and have no issues.
     
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