New Hero "Moira" Discussion

Discussion in 'Overwatch Talk' started by BrianRevy, Nov 6, 2017.

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  1. BrianRevy

    BrianRevy Well-Known Member

    So few days ago Blizzard released a video of the new hero called Moira.
    Here's a link to it below if you haven't seen it yet:

    And from just analyzing the video, We know it's confirmed a Support class.
    And the abilities she has so far is a mixture of:
    Reaper - Teleporting (Instant Teleport but shorter distance compared to Reaper)
    Symmetra - The Purple beam she uses to hurt enemies, Also sort of looks like she's pulling on them?
    Zenyatta - Without a Doubt having both the Yellow & Purple effects, it's 100% Zenyatta 2.0 Especially with Ult
    Hanzo - Based on the Purple balls that shoots out like Symmetra, it also bounces off walls/objects it seems.

    You guys excited for this new Support hero?

    To me it's like a Symmetra 2.0 or Zenyatta 2.0 Lol
  2. No_GT31

    No_GT31 Well-Known Member

    She looks insane! I will maybe switch my main character from Mercy to Moira!
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  3. kansasjeremy

    kansasjeremy Active Member

    early gameplay videos makes her seem interesting. some of her abilities seem weak, while her ult looks a little too strong. balancing will make or break her.
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  4. Heijianke

    Heijianke Member

    Her abilities are something I'm a fan of, although i think ill need damage/heal stats, as well as time to actually play her, before i make a proper decision. I do see her as fun to play though.
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  5. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    I can't wait to try her, I think she might fight my preferred play style very well. Granted, at BlizzCon Mike Morheim was quoted as saying, "and if any of you want to know how to spell Moira, it's O-P-A-F." So, I think she may be seeing changes in the future. LOL
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  6. kakerushin

    kakerushin Well-Known Member

    I've tried her out and here's what I can say about her skill set:

    1. Moira's left click Biotic grasp is heal. She can spray heal on her allies in a straight line with this. Take note that this consumes biotic energy.

    2. Unlike Symmetra with 3 damage stages, she only has one. Her right click Biotic grasp (would be considered as normal attack) doesn't tether that much at longer range. Its max range is 20m unlike Sym's 7m. And take note, damaging enemies is the only way she can replenish her biotic energy that she uses to heal her allies, unless you wanted to wait for a minute to get a decent amount of energy without doing anything.

    3. Her Biotic orb (damage or heal) moves and bounces quickly unless it's healing or damaging someone in which they slow down to a near walking speed. They also deplete after doing a certain amount of damage or heal. Healing biotic orb is the only way Moira can heal herself without help from health packs or another healer. Damage biotic orb does not fill Moira's Biotic energy.

    4. Her escape skill called Fade is veeeeery useful. She can move quickly in a split second giving the illusion of her teleporting to another place. She is invulnerable while Fade is active. You can use this in evading a RIP-Tire or Self Destruct before exploding, Mei's ult before it freezes you completely, Deadeye to get in to cover, and any other situation you could think of. I've never tried this out with Zarya's graviton, though I imagine she won't be able to use Fade once sucked in.

    I can't say much about her ultimate skill (Coalescence) other than it can both heal or damage heroes.
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  7. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    @kakerushin Great info, I'm glad you posted. Your experience seems to sum up what was said at BlizzCon quite nicely, which makes me even more excited to try her out.

    Did you feel that she was rather overpowered, or do you think she'll only need minor balances and fine tuning before she's ready?
  8. .Surf.

    .Surf. Well-Known Member

    I'm sure she will be overpower in the first place until people starts complaining, but i think it is a useful hero. We didn't got any new healer for quite some time and i think she will be fun. Seems to me though, the looks of her doesn't really belong to the overwatch design, personally it looks like a Lol hero something else doesn't fit with the Overwatch line, just my oppinion.
  9. kakerushin

    kakerushin Well-Known Member

    It's too early to say that Moira's overpowered. Blizzard's Hero Reveal might have made her look OP, but IMO she's just about right. Her skill floor's around medium to high so it does take time to get good at her. Ability-wise, it felt weird at first that the duration of Fade's like less than a second. But as I got used to her, it made sense for Fade to have a very short duration. Moira's a healer and there's no way to cancel it. Biotic orbs last as long as it's cooldown unless depleted. Her biotic grasp's damage deals 50 HP/second which is quite enough for a Support+ hero.

    Some Tips:

    1. Her Biotic orb's usefulness excels when used in small rooms with low ceiling. The heal/damage orb will bounce in places making it easier for you to either manually heal or suck the life out of your opponents. For faster heal, you can use heal orb and grasp. For better DPS, damage orb and grasp. Or you can mix any type of orb with the opposite grasp depending on the situation.

    2. Pressing E allows you to choose either Heal (left click) or Damage (right click). There's a faster way to use this ability. Simply click and hold either left or right mouse button then press E. This is extremely useful when you're in need of extra heal or DPS.
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  10. TheGurgeMan7

    TheGurgeMan7 Well-Known Member

    My thoughts
    Made it meself
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  11. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    @TheGurgeMan7 - LOL - I haven't seen that Goober Grape in so many years!!! Though, I never did think it was a good idea. *laughs*

    @kakerushin - Love the info, thanks!! I can't wait to try her out and see for myself if she will be my new favorite. So far my favorites were Mercy and Lucio with a little Soldier on the side. I really do want to like Moira. Also, I'm so happy to hear that from preliminary tests you think she's pretty balanced, I hate to see her get dismantled and rebuilt later, I really do like the mechanics they're presenting for her right now.
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  12. ThirdDegreePun

    ThirdDegreePun Well-Known Member

    I'm really happy to have another healer in the mix. She seems pretty interesting, although I reckon she's not going to be amazing as a solo healer except in the hands of someone very competent at balancing aggressive attacks with supportive behaviours. Can't wait to try her out. Also interested to know if she can be killed whilst using her beam ult or not.
  13. kakerushin

    kakerushin Well-Known Member

    She can be killed while ulting. Unfortunately just like every hero with channeling abilities, Moira's coalescence can be interrupted with flashbang, freeze, sleep dart, hook or earthshatter. As much as possible, she needs to have her team and enemy team in her line of sight while ulting.
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2017
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  14. ThirdDegreePun

    ThirdDegreePun Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that. Would you say a Widow would have time to headshot her with relative ease if she was being hit by the ult before it killed her? Asking for...reasons :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
  15. kakerushin

    kakerushin Well-Known Member

    If the widow doesn't panic or an experienced one, yeah, she would have enough time to do a headshot. I'm uncertain whether Moira's ult particle effects interfere with a scoped Widow's vision. Moira's beam length is 30m and damage isn't that great too. It's only on par if not slightly higher than her right click (50 or 55 DPS). So it may take 4 seconds or less to kill an enemy hero given you're hitting the hero all the time. Moira can't crouch while ulting but can freely run, even jump.
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  16. dragking177

    dragking177 New Member

    As a mercy main, i would love to try out this new hero
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  17. ThirdDegreePun

    ThirdDegreePun Well-Known Member

    Hey thanks for the info! That sounds like more than enough time to score a headshot, so I imagine it's important to protect her when she's ulting like if you're a rein or something to get max value. I am so going to take one out as Widow it is my new mission!
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  18. zaochens

    zaochens New Member

    She looks rather interesting! Going to try her out tbh, playing Sym was always fun af.
  19. timb1007

    timb1007 New Member

    I like her. I wish they would make Sym's latch like Moira's though. It feels like Moira doesn't latch on as easily and has a tighter field of view, which is good. May just be me though.
  20. daveluiz09

    daveluiz09 Active Member

    Many people have already migrated to Moira from Mercy.
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