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Razer Core pricing announced - $500

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by reloader-1, Mar 15, 2016.

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  1. hallet333

    hallet333 New Member

    I did not expect it to be this expensive.... Probably just going to go with the Razer Blade 2016 instead of the Stealth + Core combo... Really dissppinting Razer
     
  2. HelldiverL9

    HelldiverL9 Active Member

    Is the $400 confirmed yet? Even if it is slightly cheaper when bought in a bundle, it is still expensive when compared to the Razer Blade itself. I have also a strong feeling that not many will end up with a 128GB Blade Stealth if they really intend to game a lot, hence it'll be about $1200 + $400/$500 + GPU PRICE = Pretty much at $1999.

    I do understand where the Blade Stealth lies and who it is targeted to (I am rather excited about it too), but looking at the pricing scheme, Razer is going to be competing with themselves, unless you just buy the Blade Stealth as an Ultrabook without gaming completely.

    Which also leads me to a certain thinking: What if this was Razer's strategy? To allow people to purchase the Stealth first, then later on releasing the Core at the assumed $500 price tag. You pretty much have to invest in the Core already if you own a Blade Stealth and plan to game on it.
     
  3. TrueLightbringer

    TrueLightbringer Active Member

    The difference then, is that you can upgrade whatever's in the Razer Core, but you can't do that with say, the 2016 Razer Blade.

    That's not to say I'm not terribly disappointed with the release of the Core's pricing, of course. I'm still wavering as to whether I'll buy it.
     
  4. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Well not so fast Kakashi, that choice may be obvious to you but for many others, it's not like that.

    I always see GTX 970 cards being sold for $200. So lets say it costs about $1700 for the Stealth setup. With the Blade, you pay $2000 and get a stronger machine but you're stuck with the 970M for its entire life (unless you spend an additional $500 and get the Core and even more for the GPU). Stealth with the Core can stay relevant by upgrading the GPU perpetually. The Stealth is also much smaller/lighter than the Blade - dipping into ultrabook status, and that matters to a lot of people who favor mobility. So I don't think it defeats the purpose of the Stealth at all - which is to be an ultra portable ultrabook that can game at home. There are also things the Stealth can be equipped with that the Blade lacks, such as a 4K 100% Adobe screen. The target user for these 2 machines are different.

    CEO has stated himself that he refuses to make 'cheap crap.'
     
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  5. Ryhart

    Ryhart Active Member

    Somehow I feel al little dupped in this situation. People buy the stealth, then after the return period expires, mark up the core drastically while releasing a new blade system. If the core was intended for casual gamers at best, why would you release a core + GPU that would equal the same price as the new blade. The casual player can see that the new blade is a better deal if they want to game.
     
  6. KakashiSharingan

    KakashiSharingan Active Member

    Well to be fair we should compare the 256gb stealth then, since I forgot the new 14 starts at 256gb (not to mention it has a quad core cpu, good gpu, 16gb ram, etc.) So it would really be $1200 not $1000...
    So lets calculate:
    $2000 for Razer Blade 14, or...
    $1200 for Razer Blade Stealth (worse CPU, half the ram, same storage), $500 for the core, and $200 for GPU...
    So $1900 but you can't play games on the go (unless you consider minecraft a game), and you will be bottlenecked by the CPU and ram in 3 years (dual core + 8gb ram, what is this 2006?), but with the Razer Blade 14 it will take much longer to get bottlenecked (quad core + 16gb ram). I think the best bet is to go for a Razer Blade 14, and get a core (or cheaper USB C GPU dock) in 6 years when the GTX 970m can't run modern games at decent settings...
    I'd say $100 more for faster CPU, double the ram, and gaming on the go is fair.
    The Razer Blade 14 meets all of the requirements to be called an ultrabook, with 1 exception: It uses a quad core instead of a dual core ULV cpu...
    As for the 4K I think it's stupid considering how shitty text scaling is on windows. I think the Razer Blade 14 got the perfect resolution for the size, 1080p you would still see the pixels at that size, and 4K would make scaling terrible on most programs.
    Here are what I think would be the perfect resolutions for all 3 blades:
    -Razer Blade Stealth should be FHD 1920 x 1080 for a 12.5 inch screen
    -Razer Blade 14 should be QHD 3800 x 1800 for a 14 inch screen
    -Razer Blade Pro should be 4K 3840x2160 for a 17.3 inch screen
    As for the color accuracy I think they decided not to make it 100% since they are targeting gamers with the 14 and artists with the stealth... But reviewers say the blade 14 screen looks great anyway and as a gamer I think it is just right.
    As for the Min not wanting to make 'cheap crap' then he should make the core like $200 cheaper for all blade stealth owners, considering you can't game without it. It would suck if I didn't wait and got the stealth, then had to pay $500 for the core...
     
  7. Magik.Cali

    Magik.Cali New Member

    If they honesty go with a $500 price tag then they should at the very least include a GPU with the Core
     
  8. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    TRUST ME, I see where you're coming from. I prefer the Blade too because of the RAM, CPU, and discrete GPU. But for some people, portability matters more than power and they don't plan to game on the go anyway. Like I said, I used to bring a Blade 14 with me everyday and eventually wanted something lighter.

    Well you have to understand, that will change with time. The scaling will improve, and more media will go to 4K. Although a lower resolution might be smarter for the interim, the resolution of your laptop screen wont ever change, so having a higher resolution is more future proof.

    Lol well...that's more a product of bad decision making. If grown adults make trigger-happy purchases on the Stealth without even considering the possibility that the Core would cost $500 (when multiple posters have already mentioned it on these forums) and then come here to complain about it being too expensive, that's just a lack of foresight and self-accountability.
    No one said it was going to be cheap. You waited, which was the smart thing to do.
     
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  9. shinjin

    shinjin Member

    Just a thought but keep in mind when purchasing this the cpu on the stealth will drastically bottleneck the gpu https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=mSU0UWFCa1Y

    Also keep in mind that those results in the video is with a full 16 lane pcie slot. The Razer blade stealth's thunderbolt port lacks the full bandwidth available in a x16 3.0 slot.
     
  10. This may have been touched on in this thread or another but I will ask anyway.

    I bought the Stealth about 6 weeks ago. Does my purchase qualify for the $100.00 discount on the Core?
     
  11. does the 100 dollar credit apply if you already purchased the stealth?
     
  12. TrueLightbringer

    TrueLightbringer Active Member

    THIS. So much. Pray for the best, plan for the worst. You'd expect grown adults to learn how to make informed decisions on their purchases (especially purchases that cost as much as Razer's systems), but it seems like that's not the case.

    I'm still not a fan of the pricing, as you can see from my thread/poll, but the consequence of waiting a longer time than the US is that I've had a longer time to save on purchases, and being single again just increases my disposable income by that much. 400 USD (if the local Razer Store online doesn't mark up their prices) is like the final cost for me right now.

    Hell, at the rate Razer delays shipments to SEA, I'm even thinking of going for the Three-Headed System: the Razer Blade 2016, the Razer Blade Stealth, and the Razer Core just because I'll have enough money saved up for it + company's IT subsidies.

    Yup, Stealth has CPU bottleneck + TB3 bottleneck (x4 lanes). Still doesn't take away what it's supposed to do: ultraportability with the ability to give it a real power boost when you get back home/office. It's likely that only a dedicated 980m and above could match a set up like that. A friend estimates a 20-30% drop in performance, maybe.

    Yes. You'll be receiving your code via email by the end of the day, hopefully.

    Yes. Check your email end of today/tomorrow to be sure.
     
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  13. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Lightbringer has brought the light.

    LOL...people keep saying this to me...makes me want to never consider a relationship ever again.
     
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  14. Has anyone received the email w/ the discount code yet?
     
  15. Burgz

    Burgz Well-Known Member

    Time will tell - don't stress! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye_:

    Give it a few more hours.
     
  16. skygunner27

    skygunner27 Active Member

    Nothing yet....
     
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