Razer Core with Non-Razer Laptop

Discussion in 'Systems' started by hart breaker, Jun 8, 2016.

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  1. I have started this thread in an attempt to create a forum for Core owners and future owners to dialogue about successes and failures when matching up the Razer Core with non-Razer Laptop. I have provided a link related to Core+Dell XPS 15 as a starting point.

    I have ordered the Core with the intention on matching with a MSI GS40. I will be using a Nvidia GPU yet to be determined. There are 970s on sale to run the trial but my preference would be to pick up a GTX 1080. If you have had positive or not so positive experiences with this process please add to the thread.

    I have not seen this topic covered in a specific thread. If it is covered elsewhere on Razer Insider please let me know and I will delete this thread.


    Thank you Derek712 for leading the way.

    http://www.ultrabookreview.com/10761-razer-core-review/
     
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  2. Bullseye07

    Bullseye07 Member

    id be shocked if it works right but best of luck.
     
  3. The link above shows a dell XPS 15 working with the Core and Razer had noted at CES the Core would not be proprietary.

    Any specific reason why you think it will not work? I am trying to learn as much as possible prior to the Core's arrival.
     
  4. ArianaK

    ArianaK Member

    In the review made by Dave Lee he mentions some non-Razer laptops that are, or are not, compatible with the Core.

    -The XPS 13 and 15 can connect but they would lose connection and hang frequently.
    - The new HP spectre couldn't connect at all.
    - The Alienware 15 had the best connection, but it would freeze and then lose connection pretty often.
    - The Acer Predator also had a conncetion, but it was super flaky.

    You can watch the video yourself here.
     
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  5. Bullseye07

    Bullseye07 Member

    mostly because MSI is releasing a GS40 with a 960m that uses their own dock for egpu solution, cant remember if it is using tb3 or not but I think its a proprietary port.
     
  6. Thank you very much. I have not been able to find anything. Maybe this is only a dream. I will watch the video now.


    MSI released a GS32 with 950m that has a proprietary dock. I have not seen anything on a TB3 EGPU from MSI.
     
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  7. Bullseye07

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  8. Yeah... I remember that announcement 6 months ago but nothing sense. Seeing I have the 970m model I am out of luck even if the dock is released.

    I am going to give it a go. I can always return the GPU and keep the Core until drivers/BIOS/software are updated to accommodate the GS40. Or hell, just sell the GS40 down the road and get a Blade.

    The review by Dave Lee was great but I did not see any details about his trials and errors. I am looking for a open dialogue of successes and troubleshooting techniques.
     
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  9. bearda

    bearda Active Member

    I bought a core with the intention of using it with a Skull Canyon NUC (the only supported non-razed device as far as I know). I have a Dell XPS 13 9350 with a Thunderbolt3 port I plan on giving it a try with too, though. I'd be happy to collaborate with anyone else who's try it on an unsupported device.
     
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  10. Awesome. I think with enough mind share we can figure this out. Only issue and a significant one is I am not a PC expert just a low level gamer.
     
  11. I ordered an XPS15 while they were 10% off (i7 model) and got lucky with the Razer Core's a few days ago, so I will be joining this rag-tag team of adventurers. Has anybody tried using an ATI card with the Core on a laptop that has an nvidia card (Blade or other)? I was going to use an R9 290X I have, and am slightly worried I'll be in uncharted waters.
     


  12. I have not. I think the main hump to get over is to determine what BIOS need to changed if any in the non-Razer laptop. I am ok with manually disabling the internal GPU. But what else are the BIOS doing to allow a smooth transfer of data?
     
  13. bearda

    bearda Active Member

    I can't say I've tried it, but there are no noted issues with compatibility in the description of the Core. You have to figure that everyone with one of the new Blades has a 970M, and I'd be really surprised if nobody had tried it with an AMD card. If the Blade didn't work with AMD cards at all in the Core that would be a pretty big miss.
     
  14. mdaly001

    mdaly001 Active Member

    So... After y'all are done hammering that out: who wants to help me figure out getting this working on Ubuntu ;-)
     
  15. I doubt we will get linux working with the Core anytime soon unless AMD/Nvidia and Intel/Razer have written linux drivers for this setup.
     
  16. bearda

    bearda Active Member

    Judging from my experiences with linux on the XPS 13 9350 you'll probably be waiting for a while. USB-C 3.1 (not Thunderbolt) barely worked about two months ago (hot plugging support was fixed around 4.6, IIRC), and from what I could tell there was next to no Thunderbolt support. Getting that cleaned up is a big job in and of itself, then there's getting AMD or nVidia to add hooks into their proprietary drivers.

    I'd really like to get everything working, but I feel like it's an uphill battle at best.
     
  17. The only difference I can find between the Blade and GS40 is the chip set. The Razer has a HM100 and GS40 has a HM170. Not certain how important that would be the Core working. As noted earlier I am not a PC expert so please bear with me on this question.

    What in the BIOS would need to be changed if anything to make compatibility as smooth with Non-Razer laptops as the Blade/Stealth?


    Ok. Looks like it is releasing soon. See link below. Not certain if this is a good thing or not as it relates to using the Core with my GS40.

    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS40-6QD-Phantom.html#hero-overview
     
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  18. My Core will arrive on Friday. Depending on when during the day the Core arrives I will post results on Friday. If not, over the weekend.
     
  19. Very keen to find out the results, I already own an XPS 15 myself and having a core to go with it would be excellent.

    I've read that notebookreview article a few times and it seems like there's a few things that he says he needed to get it working:

    1. The absolute latest everything, BIOS, firmware, drivers, everything
    2. Uninstall any existing nvidia drivers and totally delete them from your system, they have to be gone before you install the recommended ones
    3. Disable the internal 960M when installing the core (I think it also mentions you can use the graphics switcher after that, but if you have issues then just disable it before plugging in)

    Good luck!
     
  20. statton4

    statton4 Member

    Core works with amd,i have a r9 390 in mine.
    And im down to help with the xps13/core trials.
     
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