Razer Core with Non-Razer Laptop

Discussion in 'Systems' started by hart breaker, Jun 8, 2016.

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  1. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    It's up to the manufacturers to keep the thunderbolt firmware up to date to be compatible with the core. It's not meant to be exclusive. All their drivers are open source.
     
  2. I think you are right. I updated the bios and doing the TB3 firmware now. I will keep you posted.

    By the way... I feel stupid asking but does anyone know the function of the Core's physical internal switch?
     
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  3. No desktop for me right now. I travel and I have to own a laptop for work. I can spread out my purchases in a modular set up too.
     
  4. bearda

    bearda Active Member

    Without knowing the specific of what's involved with supporting the Core I can't really fault Razer for their stance.
    It looks like a power switch to me, but it's not mentioned anywhere in the documentation. Don't know for sure, but I haven't tried flipping it yet.
     
  5. Alright. I have updated the BIOS and TB3 firmware. The Core is not being recognized. Only outstanding issue is I cannot update with the TB3 driver from MSI.

    I have looked for the TB3 2.25 driver but I have not been able to locate it.

    Calling it a night.
     
  6. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    Have you tried razer's thunderbolt driver? Both my razer blade and xps 15 have the exact same driver. 15.3.39.250. It looks like the gs40 driver is at 15.3.39.1

    Also, have you looked in the bios for anything thunderbolt related? You should even try booting with the core attached, if you haven't already. What you're looking for is the thunderbolt driver to prompt you for permission for the core to attach. Without that, nothing will ever happen. Since it hasn't happened for you yet, the issue is definitely thunderbolt related and would probably be fixed by firmware or driver updates. Eveb with my blade, it took a couple reboots for the thunderbolt driver to prompt me about the core.
     
  7. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    Sounds stupid, but you should also verify your usb-c connection even works. Hopefully you have another device to test.
     

  8. Glad you are responding back. Just installed the Razer TB3 driver. Just got the connection. I see lights!!!

    Update pending
     
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  9. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    Great, now it'l just a matter of you getting things stable. I think the issues you had are going to be very similar to the issues everyone else will have with trying to connect a non-Razer laptop. I spoke with Razer about this at length and it's pretty much a matter of 4 things.

    1) Thunderbolt 3 having the latest firmware, with the correct configuration settings similar to how Razer has done. (This will be the make or break point for some models)
    2) Thunderbolt 3 having a special driver (just use Razer's)
    3) Compatible dedicated GPU drivers
    4) Compatible integrated GPU drivers(might not be possible for Iris or i5 users yet. Depends on Intel)
     
  10. Texasag10

    Texasag10 New Member

    Have my core with GTX 1070 working for my Dell XPS 15. Scratching my head at the performance though.

    For Hitman at 1080p no V-Sync, no Super Sample, Ultra Details, SMAA, High Texture Quality, Trilinear, No SSAO, Ultra Shadows, and High Shadow Resolution I am only getting 11 fps in the opening scenes of the game. This is with the Core connected only to the XPS 15, no external monitor. I have verified with NVidia app that the 1070 is being utilized during the game.

    When running benchmark tool (with settings above):
    GTX 1070 - 9 fps
    GTX 960M - 21 fps
     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2016
  11. I agree. The MSI model had the Superport which needed a full BIOS and TB3 firmware update. The instructions were pretty simple if you follow step by step. I think the Razer TB3 driver was the key.

    I'm going to load some games and see how it does.

    Added note.... The Core USB slots are working. :)


    Any suggestions on how to best benchmark?
     
  12. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    You can run 3d mark firestrike and compare it to mine. What card are you using?
     

  13. Base model GTX 970 from Nvidia. I will be running on an external monitor.
     
  14. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    Ok cool, I had the same card so you can directly compare your benchmarks with what I got. I also have the 1070 now but I haven't updated my post yet.
     
  15. Curious how the 1070 does. I will be immediately upgrading if the 970 can get stable with the GS40.

    Thank you for your help.
     
  16. Please see benchmarks from 3DMark Firestrike. This is my first benchmark so I am not 100% sure of relevant numbers so I posted a screen shot. Core Benchmarks 970.PNG
     
  17. squeeze88

    squeeze88 Active Member

    I also would like to know if it will work with an Alienware. The alienware external casing is too big!
     

  18. I imagine it is but Alienware is probably updating in the near term. So far this set up has worked but it is certainly not as smooth as the Blade or Stealth would be in terms of set up and potentially day to day gaming.
     
  19. 2014 Tomb Raider on Ultra settings 1080p 144ghz monitor.

    Min FPS - 41
    Max FPS - 52
    Average FPS - 49
     

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  20. Rise of Tomb Raider on Very High settings with same monitor. Overall score 45 FPS.
     
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