Razer Core with RX 480 no boost from DX12

Discussion in 'Systems' started by TKDaemon, Jul 8, 2016.

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  1. TKDaemon

    TKDaemon New Member

    I have the RBS and Core with the RX480. I went with the RX480 because I'm about to get married so I was a little tight on finances. The only game I was really looking forward to were XCOM2 and the Total War series (Warhammer as of right now). I went and searched for Warhammer Total War DX11 VS DX12 benchmarks and saw nothing but huge jumps in framerate. When I ran the comparison benchmark though, my framerate dropped by 6-7 going from DX11 to DX12.

    I know that DX12 is supposed to help CPU usage on the system by shifting some of the load to external graphics. I can only assume the drop in framerate is because of a bottleneck with the Thunder Bolt 3 connection. I could be missing something entirely though. Either way, pretty disappointed. I will probably swap out the RX480 for a 1070 first chance I get.
     
  2. clonex10100

    clonex10100 Member

    I doubt it's the card that's causing it if the 480 benchmarks you watched showed different results. It's something to do with the razer core or drivers.
     
  3. Predator5

    Predator5 Well-Known Member

    Nope, impossible. Thunderbolt 3 is one of the best connection for that available. It shouldn't bottleneck anything.
     
  4. TKDaemon

    TKDaemon New Member

    What would you say might be the cause then? Just drivers?
     
  5. Mindinversion

    Mindinversion Active Member

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  7. Mindinversion

    Mindinversion Active Member

    I'm not exactly sure what DX12 is supposed to offload where, so take this with a few grains of salt, but my first suspicion would be to suspect that, if DX 12 doesn't help, then your performance issues are traced back to another bottleneck [most likely CPU] It could just be there's nothing more it can do to offload to the GPU.

    It could [Could, this is TOTAL theoretical speculation] be an issue traced back to the RX 480s overdrawing power from the PCI-E. I have no clue what the spec is on the mainboard/PCI-E for the core, but I know it was suggested that the RX 480 overdrawing from a desktop motherboard could fry the board. They've released updated drivers to compensate, moving the overdraw from the PCI-E to the PSU, but with no real spec to go on the core PSU you again run into "it SHOULDN'T, but who knows".

    It could also just be the RX 480 itself not being able to deliver in general, or simply still unoptimized drivers.
     
  8. AJsRanger

    AJsRanger Member

    Just out of curiosity, what has your gaming experience been with the RBS/Core and RX 480 aside from this?

    I had a GTX 960 in the core before picking up the 480, and now that that's in there, I find that I had slightly better performance from the Nvidia card. Like Overwatch is playing at 10-15fps lower than the 960 on high.

    Maybe I just haven't properly messed around with it, but it's rather annoying.
     
  9. TKDaemon

    TKDaemon New Member

    I haven't bought Overwatch on PC yet because I have it on PS4 and was waiting for the Core to arrive. Other games: old gen games run very well on High to Ultra settings. I'm able to play XCOM 2 maxed out with average 55 fps.

    Now going with games that require a lot of CPU, however, like we've been talking about on this thread, are a struggle. I had a very tough time trying to optimize settings on ARMA3 before settling with medium-high settings with 1500 view distance in order to get average 45 FPS.

    The CPU is definitely the crux of the RBS + Core pairing. I just don't know why DX12 is not helping out with framerate in Total War Warhammer when it helps out with frames on a normal desktop setup with the RX 480.
     
  10. AJsRanger

    AJsRanger Member

    Well, even when playing CPU intensive games, like The Division, I still had better performance with a 4gb 960 in comparison to the 8gb 480 I'm running right now
     
  11. TKDaemon

    TKDaemon New Member

    Yeah, unless drivers can fix the performance I'm probably going to be upgrading from the rx480 real soon.
     
  12. AJsRanger

    AJsRanger Member

    Welp, 1060 hype it is
     
  13. cronosxxx

    cronosxxx New Member

    By any chance have you played doom, I running the demo on the rbs with th rx480 and 1080p ultra and only get 30fps even if I cahnge to lower resolutions
     
  14. TKDaemon

    TKDaemon New Member

    I haven't actually. I haven't had a chance to use my Razer Core in about a month or so. Did you install the Vulcan software from the Radeon site?
     
  15. cronosxxx

    cronosxxx New Member

    If you have the chance to play doom or doom demo, please share your fps numbers, I think it can run better with the rx 480.
     
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