Slide n joy + Razer Blade Pro = DIY Project Valerie

Discussion in 'Systems' started by KrazyKanadian, Nov 24, 2017.

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  1. KrazyKanadian

    KrazyKanadian Active Member

    If you combine together a Razer Blade Pro and a Slide n Joy (triple screen monitor laptop mount) you can create a DIY Project Valerie. If you have these or another laptop please try this out and also please post some feedback.
     
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  2. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    This project is actually not project Valerie DIY, it started already before project Valerie and Valerie made it more futuristic with automatic slide out and chroma lightning. They seem will publish it on CES 2018. Unfortunately my Blades is only optimus technology that couldn’t play games in nvidia surround mode. Only Blade Pro or Laptops with gysync technology could do that.
     
  3. KrazyKanadian

    KrazyKanadian Active Member

    They are both can be triple screen gaming laptops.
     
  4. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Yes you right, but there’s optimus technology which limited Nvidia surround wide screen experience (put one resolution in three screen). Gaming laptops that has decent battery life with optimus technology like Blade, Aero etc couldn’t take full advantage for those multiple screen especially in gaming unless, user only use every display with different task like editing etc.
     
  5. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    I don’t think you understand optimus... it just switches between intel and nvidia automatically and has nothing to do with the number of screens.

    For example my old thinkpad w520 can run three screens, two external 4k displays (with mini dock 3 plus) and the built in 1080p display (don’t laugh she is from 2011!) all at once. It can do it using either Intel HD graphic or quadro 2000m
     
  6. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    You have maybe one of the rare laptops that can run nvidia surround on optimus laptops, beside some Alienware. I don’t think you understand nvidia surround.
    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2690981/setting-triple-monitors-gaming-laptop.html
     
  7. KrazyKanadian

    KrazyKanadian Active Member

    Yes thank you for mentioning the Aero :smile_:
     
  8. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    No, my w520 has the pedestrian quadro 2000m from 6 years ago, and I use the Mini Dock plus 3 which has two extra DVI ports and two extra DisplayPort ports. The downside is it can only run 4k at 30Hz, for 60hz it maxes out at 2560x1600. It can surely span a single viewport across 3 screens.

    This is why I switched to Razer, so I could connect to the external core and have many DP ports. Newer Lenovo docks have been weaksauce, it would have been a regression.

    See here: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/migr-76767
     
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  9. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Can you play game in triple monitor (nvidia surround) setting with it? I know i can display three monitors or more with my Blade, but can’t use Nvidia surround for gaming due optimus panel on it.
     
  10. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    Don't see why not, I used to have one big solidworks window across both external screens (would often have 4 or 5 viewports open or even more inside of it, but you could easily have one big viewport across both screens, kinda silly but it's the default).

    The issue now is since I got the RBS I took my thinkpad home (and all of it's paraphernalia, dock, extra chargers) to use for games and movies etc (good retirement plan for it's old age). But my big screens are of course still at the office connected to the core, and I don't have any games on it other than what Razer put on there as "bloatware" (e.g. minecraft, candy crush)

    Well, I can try minecraft I suppose, you mean like this: IMG_2035.jpg
    Definitely don't have any high-falutin' "nividia surround" running here, not even a Geforce... you can also open up any openGL screensaver and it will fill all the screens.

    I do have a 3rd P2415Q monitor as a spare but I never set it up because I only have the dual arm... Nvidia P2000 can support 4 displays officially, maybe can unoficially do more with MST?
     
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  11. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Can you show me your nvidia controll Panel on those setting, I couldn’t manage the multiple monitors settings on my Blade 2017 once I tested it. Like on this. Ended up with conclusion that most optimus laptops couldn’t get the features.
    Can you play it on full screen? And which GPU is being used, Stealth iGPU or GPU inside the core? I can also run Minecraft on stealth without an eGPU.

    It’s not Razer bloatware, it’s from Microsoft Store. My other laptops had also that.
     
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  12. KrazyKanadian

    KrazyKanadian Active Member

    That is true
     
  13. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    Razer Blade only supports one external display, it's got nothing to do with optimus, but the fact there is only one HDMI port and no displayport or docking station. You need minimum of 3 displays to run surround.
     
  14. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    No, I can run two external monitor through HDMI and USB C (with DP adapter if the monitor doesn’t support USB C input). I saw other users can run with “right” HDMI splitter two monitors. But as I said optimus laptops can’t run surround. It doesn’t matter with internal plus 2 external or Three external monitors since it could be managed through nvidia Control Panel. That’s why I want to know if you can play it on full screen and want also to see your nvidia controll Panel screen shoot to knowing there’s surround options exist. I tried before multiple display gaming but only one monitor connected directly to dGPU other connected to iGPU that made disconnection and hang issues, playing normal AAA games (didn’t Test Minecraft because I don’t play it, but I think since it could run with iGPU, it wouldn’t be an issue. What i could assume was the optimus technology as other users experience out there reported. I’m getting maybe two portable monitor this Christmas, not slide n joy though (don’t want to get my Blade heavier over 2 Kg;), and the attachment maybe not good for Blades monitor) to continue my test.
     
  15. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    The problem is my w520 and all it's paraphernalia is at my home, but my displays are at the office connected to the Razer... maybe I can bring it in and try running in surround mode and see how it does, shouldn't be an issue, the w520 is quite old but surround feature is even older !


    I forgot you could run a display directly through USB-C, you need to use MST trough displayport and daisy chain two displays off of it, and combine that with the HDMI to get to 3. IDK if you can do that and have the laptop panel running too, then you could get to 4... :)
     
  16. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I think you know old member named Raijin, he was running his Blade crazy setting with over 10 monitors I heard, idk exactly what he did with it though. If I’m not wrong he was using early 2016 Blade 14. I hope @Firebat246, can give his opinion about this since he have quite experience with Blade 14. Well if it doesn’t work I’ll send one monitor back though;) don’t have too much room to put things and I move quite often, so portability for me is important.
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2017
  17. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    Was he running them all on the built-in GPU or with an eGPU? Was he running splitters like Matrox triplehead2go? Because there are many ways to put in lots of displays if you are not too concerned about performance or resolution... 3x3 and 4x4 display grids are popular in commercial settings and they are easy to set up, the issue is if you look closely the resolution is of course horrible, they often run the individual displays at 640x480 or even lower...
     
  18. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I didn’t notice with dGPU or eGPU enclosure, but I think he didn’t have the core, he commented just those setting, as I remembered. I thought also it wouldn’t run in native resolution, I think there’s no powerful GPU to run those setting yet, unless you have the money to setting SLI battle station. Anyway if I didn’t get Razer Phone I’ll buy monitors to try it again. When I bought Blade first time in 2015, I was wanting to have project Valerie similar setting but 970m was too weak, 1060 is 40% more powerful similar or even better with gtx970 desktop that I saw could already run light AAA titles like Shadow warrior in nvidia surround gaming full screen quiet smooth, so i had expected it.
     
  19. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    Well, my w520 was a bust as the nvidia control panel doesn't even run for some reason crashes out when starting, need to investigate that sometime...

    But I plugged a 3rd monitor into my Quadro P2000 on the Stealth+Core. Obviously this isn't an optimus setup but with 3 displays connected it enables the surround feature (called "Mosaic" on Quadro-branded GPUs). Mosaic allows up to 15 displays in arbitrary configurations, it also fakes out most 3D apps or video apps to span across multiple displays when in fullscreen mode (by default, most games will only run on the primary display). E.G., the "root window". I forgot to check that the edge gestures still work for window management. It also allows you to compensate for bezels inbetween displays.

    Because this is my "work" computer I didn't have any games installed on it but it does have... duh duh daaaa! Minecraft (thanks, Mickeysoft!). So with Mosaic (Surround for Quadro) enabled, it will run fullscreen across all the displays. With it disabled, it only runs on the primary display (why I had it running in a window earlier, see post #10). Also look at the photo in between the displays you will see the bezel compensation function in action.

    Now obviously this is only Minecraft however this is a much weaker GPU than what you gamers are used to (same chip as only a GTX1060) and it was able to run the full 3x 4K resolution at 60Hz without a single stutter or hiccup! (actual resolution is slightly larger than 3x4k because of the bezel compensation).

    I attached screenshots of the Mosaic configuration, Nvidia control panel, and photos of the road bitmap used for bezel adjustment and of course the overall setup.

    I would really be excited to try this setup with 3 monitors in portrait orientation, or old school 4x3 displays... it's just too wide to be practical, I think.
     

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