Been troubleshooting this for a while.
I have a Razer 9750h 2080. Often times I game on battery as I have no available outlet, or I am at work and in my work vehicle. I understand the speed difference between adapter and battery, that's not my point.
I briefly owned a Stealth with 1650. When a game running at 1080p was a bit slow, dropping the resolution from 1080p to 720p would produce a massive frame rate boost. Makes sense, dropping that resolution literally cuts the image being rendered by half. I preferred speed and lack of jitteriness to sharpness.
Cut to the 2080 Max q. The exact opposite happens. When I am on battery, I drop the frame rate from 1080p to 720p. Rather than the frame rate increasing, instead the system does something interesting. It drops the power usage of the system so the laptop runs at the EXACT frame rate. For instance, I'm averaging 35-42fps on Sekiro, 1080p, medium settings, battery mode. If I drop the resolution to 720p, you'd expect at least a solid 60fps, right? Instead, rather than using up about 35 to 40w of power from the battery, it drops down to about 24-28w according to HWinfo, and the frame rate stays at exactly 35-42 range again. Maybe a difference of a few frames extra, but definitely no increase.
Obviously, if the GPU can manage a 35 to 40w load under battery, I'd prefer it to stay there and get the extra FPS.
Any ideas?
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Blade 15 Hardware, the gpu and CPU use higher wattage compared to stealth that both cpu and gpu use low Watt, the cpu is ultra low voltage (15 and lower on battery power) and gpu is lower 35 watt maxq version compared higher one on XPS15. So my guess is with stealth 65 Wh battery it can deliver better power to hardware demand than 80 Wh Blade 15 2080maxq (90 watt I believe) and 45 watt cpu (on battery maybe 25 watt), and if Razer let it performs similarly it’ll suddenly kill (run out) the battery, so they throttle the performance for better battery life. It’s only a guess though, I’ve both advanced blade 15 and stealth 13 but I don’t gaming on battery power only paperwork or media consumption mostly.
Thanks for the reply.
One other issue though.... this seems to be the case on the battery and the adapter.
For instance, Rocket League is getting about 220fps on the adapter at high settings. Hwinfo shows it's pulling almost 90w. If I drop the resolution to 720p, then the GPU needs less power and drops to about 40w, and the game continues at 220fps rather than skyrocketing to 350 fps or so.
I guess what I am after is a way to have the GPU power stay the same when dropping resolutions. It can handle 40w or so on battery at 1080p, so overall power delivery isn't the issue. It's when I cut resolution it also cuts the system power with it.
One other issue though.... this seems to be the case on the battery and the adapter.
For instance, Rocket League is getting about 220fps on the adapter at high settings. Hwinfo shows it's pulling almost 90w. If I drop the resolution to 720p, then the GPU needs less power and drops to about 40w, and the game continues at 220fps rather than skyrocketing to 350 fps or so.
I guess what I am after is a way to have the GPU power stay the same when dropping resolutions. It can handle 40w or so on battery at 1080p, so overall power delivery isn't the issue. It's when I cut resolution it also cuts the system power with it.
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Ronin_Justice
Thanks for the reply.
One other issue though.... this seems to be the case on the battery and the adapter.
For instance, Rocket League is getting about 220fps on the adapter at high settings. Hwinfo shows it's pulling almost 90w. If I drop the resolution to 720p, then the GPU needs less power and drops to about 40w, and the game continues at 220fps rather than skyrocketing to 350 fps or so.
I guess what I am after is a way to have the GPU power stay the same when dropping resolutions. It can handle 40w or so on battery at 1080p, so overall power delivery isn't the issue. It's when I cut resolution it also cuts the system power with it.
Interesting, I’ve the game and stealth 1650maxq can handle well to like 160fps or more I believe on 1070maxq that almost twice more powerful will easily getting also 220fps now I’m on Nioh 2 test Phase I’ll try it later on blade, maybe it has something to do with cpu gpu bottleneck on different resolution, lower is worse when I’m not wrong or maybe game setting? Not Rocket league player though but there’s FPS setting inside I believe maybe capped at 220fps?
I may have figured it out!
Running some benchmarks. I obliterated Geforce Experience. Reinstalled drivers. Tinkered with Throttlestop, and sold a vial of blood to Satan.
Then, while browsing nvidia control panel I spied one option. Surely, this couldn't be the problem...
"Adjust Image Settings with Preview". Okay. Set slider to "Use my preference emphasizing PERFORMANCE".
Ran the benchmark in Arkham Knight. First time around, got 42 FPS in ultra settings. Set everything to low. Got 43. Barely even a 1 frame boost, and it never hit more than 50fps.
Tried it after setting it to Performance.
56 fps average, hit almost 90fps is areas, ON BATTERY.
Think I found it.
Running some benchmarks. I obliterated Geforce Experience. Reinstalled drivers. Tinkered with Throttlestop, and sold a vial of blood to Satan.
Then, while browsing nvidia control panel I spied one option. Surely, this couldn't be the problem...
"Adjust Image Settings with Preview". Okay. Set slider to "Use my preference emphasizing PERFORMANCE".
Ran the benchmark in Arkham Knight. First time around, got 42 FPS in ultra settings. Set everything to low. Got 43. Barely even a 1 frame boost, and it never hit more than 50fps.
Tried it after setting it to Performance.
56 fps average, hit almost 90fps is areas, ON BATTERY.
Think I found it.
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Ronin_Justice
I may have figured it out!
Running some benchmarks. I obliterated Geforce Experience. Reinstalled drivers. Tinkered with Throttlestop, and sold a vial of blood to Satan.
Then, while browsing nvidia control panel I spied one option. Surely, this couldn't be the problem...
"Adjust Image Settings with Preview". Okay. Set slider to "Use my preference emphasizing PERFORMANCE".
Ran the benchmark in Arkham Knight. First time around, got 42 FPS in ultra settings. Set everything to low. Got 43. Barely even a 1 frame boost, and it never hit more than 50fps.
Tried it after setting it to Performance.
56 fps average, hit almost 90fps is areas, ON BATTERY.
Think I found it.
Good to know, sometimes we forget basic things:wink_: With the time you’ll find and know your device better for your usage. And I don’t use also Nvidia experience since sometimes it holds Blade performance I find.
Eh. Might have been a bit premature in my celebration. Not getting much from a lot of games. For some reason the HUGE increase in Arkham Knight is just in that game. Tried Witcher 3, Sekiro, both games seem to hug the frame rate around 45fps, no higher, no matter how low I drop the settings.
It's software based, not hardware, I'm pretty sure of it. Just need to find the switch that's dynamically adjusting the games the way it is. There's no way 720p low graphics should be the same frame rate as 1080p Max settings.
It's software based, not hardware, I'm pretty sure of it. Just need to find the switch that's dynamically adjusting the games the way it is. There's no way 720p low graphics should be the same frame rate as 1080p Max settings.
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Have you checked intel graphics control panel settings? There is an option in there that limits framerates to X amount on battery. Im guessing that option is checked thats why you are getting the capped fps regardless of resolution on battery
I can't find a setting like that in Intel Command Center. GeForce Experience has battery boost, but I don't have it installed.
Still nothing.
Fixed one issue though. Razer Synapse. Was getting nowhere near the 200fps in games like Witcher 3 that others were.
Finally found a suggestion to turn if off. Wow. Never expected an 80 fps boost in games.
However it doesn't do anything in battery mode
Fixed one issue though. Razer Synapse. Was getting nowhere near the 200fps in games like Witcher 3 that others were.
Finally found a suggestion to turn if off. Wow. Never expected an 80 fps boost in games.
However it doesn't do anything in battery mode
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