The Razer Core V2

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  1. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    You forget something important on the setting, don’t forget also to look the fuel on your car;)
     
  2. neochouva

    neochouva New Member

    Hey Guys,

    my Core V2 is behaving like all the others: It's incredibly loud. Razer agreed to start an RMA, my Machine seems to be even more on the loud side than usual. So I was thinking about how to fix the crazy loud PSU. Here's a nice guide on how to diasseble the V1: Forum Notebookreview The V2 is not that different from the V1, so it should work.

    But I would like to go further. I want to connect a standard ATX PSU to the Core. The PSU will go under the table and nicely covered power cables will go through the whole where the PSU has had the Power connection before (shoud be big enough). But I am facing one obvious problem. The "Mainboard" connector of the Core PSU is not standard. It has just one row where standard ATX has two. I am failing to find the specs for it.

    So does anyone have an Idea what type of connection it is? Mabe a source where I could buy one, or better buy an adapter to standard ATX connectors?

    Cheers

    Neochouva
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2018
  3. revoluxon

    revoluxon New Member

    Not sure what you wanted to say but every single Core V2 is loud, like extremely loud imo.

    Razer needs to address this issue, just like what they did with the Razer Blade late 2016....
     
  4. neochouva

    neochouva New Member

    Hey, that's exactly what I was trying to say. Even though Razer may exchange my Core V2 to a box that is a little less noisy, it will still be much too loud. That's why I want to use a different PSU. At least in my case the main source of the noise is the underpowered psu with it's tiny fans. In my case it has to power a GeForce 1080 TI and a Razer Stealth 13.3" Quadcore.
     
  5. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I just tried several things on start (connected TB3) the Core V2 is silent and also by using 2D tasks it’s still but after hard gaming the Fans kicks on i think at max, it wasn’t down even after GPU cool down, yes it’s similar issue with late 2016 Blade 14.
    I think the issue could be solved by software did you try also like I did above? For desktop tasks at first it’s not loud in my experience, only after heavy load (gaming etc) it won’t down even after quitting the task, though the noise from Blade 14 late 2016 that won’t stop was way louder (before firmware update).
    Other things to note, I didn’t have the Core v1 before so I don’t know what the menu looks like on Synapse but an eGPU enclosure that come with PSU should have Fan Control on its software (Synapse), not only lightning control.
    Edit: Could you please share 3D benchmark like Firestrike overall score with your setting?
     
  6. revoluxon

    revoluxon New Member

    That was my bad, i read that "ist" as a "isnt".
     
  7. neochouva

    neochouva New Member

    #typo... just fixed it ;)
     
  8. Asten__

    Asten__ Active Member

    Dear Razer Devs!

    If i had a wish - please find a way to make a driver/firmware update for the Razer Core V2 where users can change the fan speed (within reason). I would really appreciate that because even tough the PSU fans may make a lot of noise, the Core V2 seems to have a "quite mode"when I do not play games but then sometimes still turns up more fans - i would like the fans of my gpu to handle that as they are more quite then the ones in the core (if that makes sense - maybe that be done thermically - i am no expert in this). But from what I gather from GPU temp sensors, my gpu is not really hot even when the fans blow quite loud...
    (apart from that, the CoreV2 is awesome i have to say - using it now for 1,5 months and i am very happy i have it!)
    Thank you!
     
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  9. neochouva

    neochouva New Member

    As far as I can guess, this can not be fixed by an Update. At least in my case the noise is being generated by the tiny fans of the PSU that get even amplified by the plastic airvents.

    So still my question: Any Idea what standard the PSU Connector uses on the Mainboard?
     
  10. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    You can PM @Pentalobe, he changed the PSU or look at the pages before, I think he show us how to change it and PSU that fit on it.
    I don’t really know if it related with GPU, but on mine both GPUs are quite (38~42dB, phone placed directly on the Core) at first plug/start up and doing 2D (watching movies etc) desktop tasks, after doing heavy tasks (gaming etc) it bumps to 50dB, and after that it stay quite a while 50, and drop only to 45dB. So i just plug it off and plug it back, it back to 38~42 immediately. So it’s similar issue with Fan on Razer Blade late 2016 that i heard solved by firmware update. I don’t have desktop to compare the noise but compared to dGPU on Blade 14 on max heavy load it’s around same 50dB but the Fan on Core could be covered by gaming sound better than Blade 14, I think it’s due a bit high pitch that comes with Fan blowers sounds on Blade.
     
  11. neochouva

    neochouva New Member

    Quick reply regarding the Fire Strike Score: 12235 / https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14910814
    No special tweaks from my side, just the "OC Mode" offered by the Gigabyte GUI being activated.
     
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  12. Asten__

    Asten__ Active Member

    Greetings!

    Exactly what I experience.
    What is added on top of that is that if it would be a classic pc, i would be ok with the noise but the core sits on the Desktop table so it is more important for it to be quite...
     
  13. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I understand that, I was also quite surprised when looked at synapse setting, it is only lightning control! It’s nice though but it’ll be better if we have more control like Fans profile etc, not all automatically controlled by the board inside the core. I’ve two Blade and MacBook Pro 13 to pair with the core in different places (desk) so i use a loong cable extension for power brick and move it around the room. And I’m not doing quite work like design or photoshop that need the Core power. Is it still disturbing for you when you plug it off and on? because by that I can turn the noise down to max 42dB from near 50 after heavy gaming.
     
  14. Asten__

    Asten__ Active Member

    Greetings!

    Indeed my Core also behaves like that - and that observation led me to believe we would be helped alot if we had the opportunity to regulate fan Speed via synape..
     
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  15. junkee902

    junkee902 New Member

    Hey guys, I followed @Pentalobe's suggestion of unplugging the thermocouple (page 10 of this thread: https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/the-razer-core-v2.27207/page-10)

    ...and I think it actually works!

    I currently use the quad-core Razer blade stealth (65w) and MSI Aero 1070 (150w) and play CPU/GPU intensive RPG games like Black Desert Online.

    Even on a high graphics setting, the fan noise is significantly reduced (from 60dB down to 40dB) with this fix compared to the baseline.

    HOWEVER, to prevent the PSU from overheating, I have placed my Razer system as close to the window as possible so that the cold & ruthless Canadian wind can keep my system cool.

    The laptop stays around 40 degrees celcius with this trick and the core v2 stays at 36.
    I've tested running the games for over 4 hours and the temperature remains controlled

    P.S attached are images originally taken by Pentalobe to demonstrate how to unplug the cable, and the way I placed my Razer system to keep it cool.
     

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  16. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    MSI Aero with its blower style has bad cooling so it will be good if you use Fan imo. You can also using it without the shell for getting better temperature on load time. I am writing now from Blade Stealth connected to EVGA SC 1080, damn it is way quitter than Aero, max 41dB and my room silent dB is 38, I think it is also because the costum Fan, and the GPU fans do not spin on light tasks. I think my ZOTAC mini and Aero always spin inside the Core.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2018
  17. junkee902

    junkee902 New Member

    I think most noise from the razer core is generated by the 3 fans at the bottom of the core itself, not the mounted GPU. And from what i have seen in the past 2 weeks, uncoupling it does NOT affect the integrity of the core at all. In fact, opening a window during winter has a better cooling effect than having the fans revolve at full speed.

    If you play GPU intensive games, definitely try it out and you will know what I mean!
     
  18. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Do you want to use that always that way? It’s up to you! I just shared my experiences. Yes I play only intensive games, just played around 2 hours AC Origins and a bit Kingdom come both on 1440p with new graphics card from EVGA after 5 minutes or less the fans noise back to 41dB. Idk how many fans on the Core are, but on desktop tasks like now it’s not loud in fact the GPU fans seems stopped on several times (I think on low temp, and I didn’t notice on Aero or Zotac GPU about Fans stop on usage). Plug it on off (on stealth / deactivate the eGPU on Blade 14) will stop the GPU inside de the core, but sometimes core fans keep running worse (around 45dB) than after gaming season, but on some point it’ll back to 41dB. That’s why before I said that it’ll be better if it could be controlled through synapse, than let the Core automatically change the Fans profile.
     
  19. revoluxon

    revoluxon New Member

    Still waiting for Razer to fix the extremely loud fans on idle, that is the only thing i dont love about my Core V2.

    If you dont want people messing with different fans or completely disconecting them, you should do something about it!
     
  20. Lauski

    Lauski New Member

    Ooo hey -- thanks for the shout out to my guide. And to address other concerns on this page -- It's those fans inside the power supply which are the cheapest of all the fans in the core and they have to be physically updated per my guide to make a difference. Every other fan in there is one that Razer must have picked and they're actually pretty good PWM fans that adjusted fairly and weren't super loud. The power supply though I recall just almost having two modes: silent and ON... LOUD!

    Don't expect Razer to be able to issue an update to help. The ones inside the power supply are hard-wired directly (in V1 for certain) and are simply temperature-based, probably tied to a thermistor inside the PS. I had everything apart and could see the voltage that powers the fans adjusting right there from the source, and it's just two wires that they're connected with. That's a show-stopper unless there happens to be some additional control I don't know about that the supply exposes via a control wire to the core's main board.

    Razer could certainly adjust profiles of the other 3 fans, but I thought the unit sounded acceptable for what it is given their default profile + having the power supply fans fixed. Every unit could of course feasibly just come with a bad fan, so if you're suspicious, just temporarily unplug one and see if the problem you were hearing goes away. Some are more critical than others (like the one that helps bring cool air straight into the power supply) so don't do this long term and be careful.
     
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