The Razer Core V2

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  1. Lauski

    Lauski New Member

    Width appears to be the same, so it still looks like this can't support those 2.5 slot GPUs that we've seen several of.

    From the spec comparison, looks like the main dimension that got a bump was a little bit of added max height. I know the most popular card series that's a normal 2-slot width, that couldn't go in the V1 Core were the newest 10-series MSI Nvidia Cards like the GAMING X 1080. It has a height of 5.51", and then you add the PCI power connectors to that.

    Gonna be close with the Core V2's new max supported height of 5.71", but it might make it now! Let us know if someone tries!
     
  2. surfer1081

    surfer1081 Well-Known Member

    Once the website is up I can order and I'll let you know! althought I'm only shooting for a 1070 TI when it is released :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
  3. rb6freak

    rb6freak New Member

    I'm curious to know if the V2 idle sound of the fans has decreased from the V1. That was my main issue with the Core V1, it was just too loud to use the core as a dock for non gaming tasks. If any owners of the V2 can chime in I'd appreciate it, thank you.
     
  4. TK-1987

    TK-1987 Well-Known Member

    How loud are the fans on the V1 on idle? And does it get pretty loud when under load? Reason I ask is I just got my V2 yesterday. At idle the fans in the core are audible, but not unbearable. Under load though it’s loud. I’d compare it to laptop fans under load loud.
     
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  5. Lauski

    Lauski New Member

    This is a tough thing to discuss without making sure you've using the same parameters... The specific card you installed, game you're playing, graphic detail level, and whether or not you're doing any additional Nvidia settings changes (preferring max power), ambient temp, etc.

    BUT... I'll give you a subjective answer with what I had when I tested the core with a variety of cards and yeah... it sounds like V2 is similar to V1. I am the person who ultimately wrote up an online how-to guide on tearing the V1 Core down all the way to its power supply, changing every fan that I could to see what could be done.

    I learned, that with a beefy card, on a heavy game under a solid load, the Core V1 would get hot enough to activate the terrible, tiny, power supply fans at full tilt, which made the core unreasonably loud, IMO. If you'd say the first 15m or so of gaming you notice things getting louder, but not unbearable-- but then after 30m-1hr it kicks into "high gear" -- it's probably the same deal for you.
     
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  6. rb6freak

    rb6freak New Member

    Like 35db ball bearing loud (just a guess). I don't mind the noise at full tilt gaming, that's understandable. I was just hoping they adjusted the fan curve in the V2 to not engage the fans until necessary and perhaps ramp them slowly as needed. Doesn't sound like they changed the fan setup.
     
  7. TK-1987

    TK-1987 Well-Known Member

    That must be what's happening. I haven't done anything to my 1080 besides setup a fan curve to keep it under control noise wise. When I was using it in my desktop I found 50-60% was the sweet spot for the fan before it got too loud for the gains in keeping the lowest temps on the GPU.

    Today my core isn't kicking in 100% but the temp today is almost 15 degrees cooler than yesterday so it's much cooler in my house today. Did you find changing the fans worth the time?

    I've had some hands on time with the Aorus 1070 gaming box. And that unit is silent. You can barely hear it. So that's why I was so surprised the Razer Core is so loud.
     
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  8. StylishGhosts

    StylishGhosts New Member

    For me I think the fan noise was louder than I thought but it's doing it's job to cool down the gpu so I guess it's fine for me. If you don't like how the noise interrupt you from your gaming experience, the best way to resolve this issue is probably setting it up like a desktop or get a earphone like me. I enjoy using my artics 5 with this and I barely have any issue while I'm gaming.
    One other thing I would like to mention and some of you might be interested is the heat on the razer blade stealth when I play games. I don't have any extra cooling station under my laptop at this moment but from what I experience I really don't think getting one is necessary because the heat wasn't even as bad compare to my original laptop (razer blade 14 2015 model) while gaming. Things are still going smooth, I will update if I run into any kinds of issue for the next few days.
     
  9. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    @TK-1987 or @StylishGhost could you also share us your gaming experience by providing some benchmarks results or sharing your gaming FPS?
     
  10. Smurf_SVK

    Smurf_SVK New Member

    Hey,

    sharing my FireStrike benchmark (using the demo version, thus I dont have FS Ultra results to share). Got the RBS 2017 + Core V1 with MSI GTX 1080 X (3D printed covers for the Core cables and it fits the V1 - tight but fits)

    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/22705234

    For the above benchmark, output was to BenQ W1070 projector via HDMI. With output to MSI G27C2 monitor I can get around 9700.
    with output to internal RBS screen, the results are quite disappointing - around 7800/7900 in Firestrike.

    and yes, my V1 Core fan is quite loud even under no GPU load - when compared to the MSI GPU fans. But its bearable when gaming as I have sound on.

    So unless they fixed the USB issues or added fan controls, I do not see much of added value in the V2, unless it`s getting some fair price.
     
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  11. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Your internal screen score is already bump around 9 times its iGPU and beat early 2016 Blade 14 score which is nice for an ultrabook. Yes people always want more performance from the GPU but there’s always bottleneck with nowadays laptops CPU even higher i7 7700 one, plus TB3 bandwidth. Having those clean plug and play setting to bump your PC performance is great things to have and nice innovation imo.
     
  12. Smurf_SVK

    Smurf_SVK New Member

    Don`t get me wrong, I am not complaining, just wanted to share some benchmarks. RBS as ultrabook is awesome for my vanlife travels and with the Razer Powerbank I run it purely on solar power! And when home I am able to play nearly all games in Ultra quality, so I am pretty happy. Just struggling a bit with the FPS drops here and there and as mentioned the Core fan noise and the Core USB issue is a bit annoying but nothing major. Otherwise it does everything as promised. Although in the early days I had my fair share of the constant disconnect/reconnect issue related to WIFI, but once changed to 5 GHz all runs smoothly.
     
  13. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I’m not pointing you I said people out there, saw quite a lot expecting to have more performance from their GPU on eGPU setting. I would buy also the Core, but because I have already Blade 14, for now I don’t see the need of eGPU for my stealth, yes Razer Powerbank is great, don’t use it quite often with my stealth because the battery is already feed my needs, but it also could powered my ultrabook with mx150 to help getting longer battery life when I’m gaming on go.
     
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  14. Pentalobe

    Pentalobe Active Member

    My v1 has a 1070 in it and the *FIVE* fans (not counting the fan on the gpu itself) are quite loud in a quiet room.

    I just received the v2 and haven't put a GPU in it (I have a quadro p2000 coming) and while the fans (there are still five, 3 on the bottom and two in the PSU) are not silent, they rarely run, cycling on and off occasionally. (all it's doing is powering the laptop, acting as a USB hub and ethernet jack). When they are running they are a bit quieter than the v1, who's fans run all the time and at the same speed (at least, that's what it seems like for me). They can run at different speeds as it was quite noisy until synapse updated the firmware on the core.

    The interior of the machine seems a bit more smartly designed as well. The latch to open the case is a lot more secure, the latch on the pci-e slot is much better, overall layout seems neater. Haven't looked inside the v1 in many many months, so my memory may be spotty. The THS logo on the side is also a separate piece stuck on, and a bit less discreet, but it's still all-black and not garish at all, at least not enough to rip off.

    It still needs a power button. My old thinkpad w520 dock had a power button.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2017
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  15. TK-1987

    TK-1987 Well-Known Member

    Sure I can do that for you. Are you more interested in internal display or external display numbers? I'll run a few game tests when I have the time.

    That's a really helpful post. Thank you. I got in contact with Razer Support and have a case open with them to see what they say about the noise. But based on what your saying this is normal for the unit. Which is more what I'm looking for as I just don't want a defective $500 unit. Besides the louder than expected noise I'm pretty happy with the unit. Work greats. Though I don't have mine setup in a desktop environment so I can't speak for the usb and Ethernet connects working better than the V1.
     
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  16. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Firestrike, the normal one, internal and external display would be nice. Would be even better if you tell me also your games FPS when you have the time. Thanks I’ll give you like tomorrow, i can’t give it anymore today;)
     
  17. StylishGhosts

    StylishGhosts New Member

    I will do the benchmark for both internal and external screen on my 980ti and post the result when I finish.
    One thing I am concerned though is the new 8th Gen i7 on the new ultrabook might have very different result comparing to 7th gen since it has about 30-40% performance boost.
     
  18. StylishGhosts

    StylishGhosts New Member

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  19. dedreiix

    dedreiix Member

    Nice.

    Will there be some kind of special-offer for customers who already bought a notebook recently?
     
  20. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Only on physics score, it would be around 40% up to around 10000 (on Xiaomi Pro Kabylake R, same with 4 core stealth cpu) and will bump overall score, I think on graphics score there would be no huge difference.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2017
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