TK-1987 is back. And he has a Razer Blade Pro.

TK-1987 · 2019-06-17T21:42:41+00:00

I think a few of you notice I've been poking around the forums the last few days. Well that's because after some testing of other laptops, Razer has proven they have the best thin and light gaming laptop on the market. And no one is covering it. So I'm back with the Razer Blade Pro and I'm here to tell you. . .the Blade 15 is obsolete. Buy this model instead. If you have questions and tests you would like to see me do with this laptop then make some noise. If you guys would want a more full review thread then make more noise. I'll be glad to do what I can. Out of the box firestrike score. No tweaks everything is stock. Look at those cpu temps! For some reason the CPU score is 200 points lower than the Alienware M15 I had. Not sure why. But, the GPU score is just shy of 23K. Here is the temps and score on my Alienware M15 I returned. I had repasted, undervolted, and used a cooling pad. . .and the temps don't even compare.

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Joikansai
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1975 replies
4 years ago
18 June 2019

Alienware let all cores spiking as they want probably it made the temperature high, but that’s actually not bad for m15 I saw even worse, uneven heat sink apparently from that huge gaps on max temperature, Azor should ask Min how to make thin light laptops, they’re great on big tank laptops but newbie on thin light gaming laptops.
Maybe try undervolting lower the cpu, (on 8750H i use -140mV to -130mV range, set max performance whatever you see on Synapse may increase the cpu score. Maybe it’s some power limitation on your profile that keep cpu tdp at some Value, check with HWinfo64 on package power to see its boost tdp and average, I think cpuid don’t have tdp sensor.
Yes It’s awesome gpu performance, I think it’s on top on 2080maxq laptops.

TK-1987
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118 replies
4 years ago
18 June 2019

I'll try some addition undervolting. I'm surprised it came undervolted out of the box. That's definitely helping the temps. Those extra two fans at the bottom of the laptop are definitely helping for sure. They should look into making that change to the Blade 15. I'd trade for a smaller battery and have better thermals. And I'll run another benchmark with HWinfo64. My guess this running at the 45w tdp. I know the M15 was running over 60w. That would make a big difference. BUT, while playing games my 9750h seems to run pretty steady at 4ghz. So it's definitely running better in a real world scenario.

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Joikansai
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18 June 2019

TK-1987
I'll try some addition undervolting. I'm surprised it came undervolted out of the box. That's definitely helping the temps. Those extra two fans at the bottom of the laptop are definitely helping for sure. They should look into making that change to the Blade 15. I'd trade for a smaller battery and have better thermals. And I'll run another benchmark with HWinfo64. My guess this running at the 45w tdp. I know the M15 was running over 60w. That would make a big difference. BUT, while playing games my 9750h seems to run pretty steady at 4ghz. So it's definitely running better in a real world scenario.

Yes I prefer also lower temperature. It depends the game, for achieving max frequency it doesn’t need max tdp, on balanced mode which’s 25 watt on Blade 15 I see often 3,9 max cores when gaming. Only stress test and benchmarks that use high cpu % load showing how oem limits the power. For gaming it won’t 100% use cpu, in that case it means cpu bottleneck.
It’s great to know also sound quality, since apparently it has pretty huge speakers.

TK-1987
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118 replies
4 years ago
18 June 2019

Ok wow! Too much info! Lol. I've never used HWinfo64 before. So he's a few more pictures doing a firestrike bench with it. Same setting of max fans and cpu and gpu set to high in synapse. Msi after burner confirms that high for gpu is a very tame +100 core and +400 memory. Could easily bump that up so long as there is some power left as temps are cool as heck.

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Joikansai
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18 June 2019

TK-1987
Ok wow! Too much info! Lol. I've never used HWinfo64 before. So he's a few more pictures doing a firestrike bench with it. Same setting of max fans and cpu and gpu set to high in synapse. Msi after burner confirms that high for gpu is a very tame +100 core and +400 memory. Could easily bump that up so long as there is some power left as temps are cool as heck.

Yes it’s 45 watt cpu power limitation, it explains your low physical score. But a dude in Reddit told me he can boost over 45 watt, though he use LM but your temperature are way better which’s weird and I don’t see LM is worth it (17% better cpu score but around 20 degrees hotter). Anyway for gaming that’s great temperature, and gpu side it even boost to 100 watt, i thought 2080maxq max tdp is 90 watt, that explains that great gpu performance, so I’d say 50 50.

TK-1987
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118 replies
4 years ago
18 June 2019

That would explain why after I did a -.125v and -.140v undervolt my cpu score went up about 100 points. The difference between the two is very minimal. It did knock off about 2 degrees while playing the Witcher 3 in Ultra. And the cpu clocks seemed to stay alot closer to 4ghz instead of dropping to 3.3ghz.

I've been reading that liquid metal isn't all it's cracked up to be. It's more of a overclockers tool. That is weird he has worse temps than me. Is it a Pro or a 15? They must've nailed the paste job on this one.

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Joikansai
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19 June 2019

TK-1987
Ok wow! Too much info! Lol. I've never used HWinfo64 before. So he's a few more pictures doing a firestrike bench with it. Same setting of max fans and cpu and gpu set to high in synapse. Msi after burner confirms that high for gpu is a very tame +100 core and +400 memory. Could easily bump that up so long as there is some power left as temps are cool as heck.

Wait wait you can’t fool me Razer:smile_: That’s over 100 watt gpu tdp, probably 110 watt. Usually 2080maxq is max 90 watt, this’s great.

TK-1987
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118 replies
4 years ago
19 June 2019

Joikansai
Wait wait you can’t fool me Razer:smile_: That’s over 100 watt gpu tdp, probably 110 watt. Usually 2080maxq is max 90 watt, this’s great.

They definitely have the thermal headroom for it. Seriously they did a bang up job on the cooling in this unit. Really anyone looking at the Blade 15 that can handle the size of the Blade Pro and cannsave up an extra $200 for it is a good idea in my mind. A cooler running system that runs faster and is pretty quiet during gaming is a win in my book. The 6.61lbs might be the only issue.

I tried more overclocking and undervolting. +160 on the core, +400 on memory, and -150mv undervolt. The sweet spot seems to be +125,+400, -125. After that it doesn't seem to really be worth it. Can't srgue with these results. I'll double check but I think the Blade Pro is giving the Asus gx701 a run for it's money.

I can't seem to get the cpu to go over 15,200. Even with the undervolt it seems to cap out. So that's kinda disappointing. But, running it in games seems to keep it's turbo boost up at 4Ghz. So realistically it's doing a good job there.

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Joikansai
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19 June 2019

TK-1987
They definitely have the thermal headroom for it. Seriously they did a bang up job on the cooling in this unit. Really anyone looking at the Blade 15 that can handle the size of the Blade Pro and cannsave up an extra $200 for it is a good idea in my mind. A cooler running system that runs faster and is pretty quiet during gaming is a win in my book. The 6.61lbs might be the only issue.

I tried more overclocking and undervolting. +160 on the core, +400 on memory, and -150mv undervolt. The sweet spot seems to be +125,+400, -125. After that it doesn't seem to really be worth it. Can't srgue with these results. I'll double check but I think the Blade Pro is giving the Asus gx701 a run for it's money.

I can't seem to get the cpu to go over 15,200. Even with the undervolt it seems to cap out. So that's kinda disappointing. But, running it in games seems to keep it's turbo boost up at 4Ghz. So realistically it's doing a good job there.

Yes Razer sacrifices battery capacity for this cooling resolution, but it’s great to keep all easily accessible and not soldered parts, hardware wise going in to the right way imo, but software wise, maybe cpu tdp limitation can be a bit more increased but soon or later you’ll find out it either from official update or users who couldn’t keep their butt calm to unlock it. Maybe extra cooling pad can give better frequency boost if power limit set to react on very lower cores temperature.
Apparently tweakers from other brands spotting this Blade Pro for flash crossing, don’t give them your gpu vbios:big_grin_:, or sell it for a price lol:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye_:.

TK-1987
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118 replies
4 years ago
19 June 2019

Joikansai
Yes Razer sacrifices battery capacity for this cooling resolution, but it’s great to keep all easily accessible and not soldered parts, hardware wise going in to the right way imo, but software wise, maybe cpu tdp limitation can be a bit more increased but soon or later you’ll find out it either from official update or users who couldn’t keep their butt calm to unlock it. Maybe extra cooling pad can give better frequency boost if power limit set to react on very lower cores temperature.
Apparently tweakers from other brands spotting this Blade Pro for flash crossing, don’t give them your gpu vbios:big_grin_:, or sell it for a price lol:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye_:.

Yeah seriously. Some manufactures really don't want you messing around on the inside of their laptops. I'm getting around 3ish hours of battery life out of the Pro. So actually not terrible. But, that might be a bit short for anyone that is away from a power source alot. I did another run with cpu performance on high and the same setting as above. And a cooling pad. I have the Cooler Master U3 PLUS. So I have the fans positioned right under the laptop vents. I'm still getting 18,500 so I don't know what CPU Performance mode even does. For benmarking it doesn't seem to help at all. So maybe it's bugged and doesn't do anything? Maybe Razer should look into that and maybe make that let us use like 60w for the cpu in an update bios. Besides offering more powerful hardware there isn't much more I think I can do to get much more out of it. The temps are good and a liquid metal repaste likely would'nt do anything magical.

Well maybe they can figure something out for the cpu that would be nice. And if this 2080 max q is pulling more the 100w it's pretty darn close to what the full laptop 2070 can do yes? Liking this thing more every minute.

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Joikansai
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19 June 2019

TK-1987
Yeah seriously. Some manufactures really don't want you messing around on the inside of their laptops. I'm getting around 3ish hours of battery life out of the Pro. So actually not terrible. But, that might be a bit short for anyone that is away from a power source alot. I did another run with cpu performance on high and the same setting as above. And a cooling pad. I have the Cooler Master U3 PLUS. So I have the fans positioned right under the laptop vents. I'm still getting 18,500 so I don't know what CPU Performance mode even does. For benmarking it doesn't seem to help at all. So maybe it's bugged and doesn't do anything? Maybe Razer should look into that and maybe make that let us use like 60w for the cpu in an update bios. Besides offering more powerful hardware there isn't much more I think I can do to get much more out of it. The temps are good and a liquid metal repaste likely would'nt do anything magical.

Well maybe they can figure something out for the cpu that would be nice. And if this 2080 max q is pulling more the 100w it's pretty darn close to what the full laptop 2070 can do yes? Liking this thing more every minute.

Yes your graphics score is on 5 tops powerful over 1 kg heavier dual (huge) ac adapter Alienware 51M (9700K 2070 configuration).
About battery life I think I remember Dave2d mentioned also 3 hours when I’m not wrong, not great compared to Blade 15 but you can check battery discharge rate and if you can maintain under 10 watt it may get better battery life, like turn down everything down, disable rgb and logo Backlight from Synapse or creating throttlestop battery profile like turning down core amplifier or increasing speedshift or maybe even disabling Turbo Boost since maybe on tasks on battery power you don’t need it.

Firebat246
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168 replies
4 years ago
19 June 2019

Congratulations on your system!

TK-1987
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118 replies
4 years ago
20 June 2019

Joikansai
Yes your graphics score is on 5 tops powerful over 1 kg heavier dual (huge) ac adapter Alienware 51M (9700K 2070 configuration).
About battery life I think I remember Dave2d mentioned also 3 hours when I’m not wrong, not great compared to Blade 15 but you can check battery discharge rate and if you can maintain under 10 watt it may get better battery life, like turn down everything down, disable rgb and logo Backlight from Synapse or creating throttlestop battery profile like turning down core amplifier or increasing speedshift or maybe even disabling Turbo Boost since maybe on tasks on battery power you don’t need it.

Now that's impressive. And here I was considering the 2070 max q version. Glad I didn't make that mistake.

Yes he was quoting the battery life a bit under 3 hours. I just turn on better battery setting, turn down the brightness, and turn off the keyboard lights. I'm sure if I went ham and did some crazy tweaking I could get some more time with it. Buuuuut that doesn't sound like fun and I'll stick to benchmarks and gaming. :wink_:

Firebat246
Congratulations on your system!

Thanks. Been a pleasant experience so I'm glad I found something I like.

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