[UPDATE] Razer Blade 15 ft. Intel 9th Gen processor

Discussion in 'Systems' started by Razer.WolfPack, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Ah then great. Not their software btw but your Blade is getting used to it and mastered more stable “undervoltability”:)
     
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  2. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    Guys Trying to help someone who's got the new RB15 and using ThrottleStop, balanced power and balanced synapse is getting an idle power of 12W. I asked him to factory reset it and still the same.
    Is this normal? I know the bios is different and works on C10 or something but really want to help this chap.
    Ideas?
     
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  3. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Check 3rd apps that eat battery even not opened, like HP software, chrome, or gpu switcher. Try inactive or uninstall them and see.
     
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  4. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    Cheers for reply. I got him to factory reset it so its as was.
     
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  5. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    On right after fresh install there’s tons apps, windows, Intel, nvidia, Synapse etc softwares are doing optimization back there. Is it done as well? It should eat a lot battery life as well, finish all of that things. It took me a week to be free from bad 2 to 3 hours battery life.
     
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  6. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    cool, just wanted to double check as I don't own that device and its not something obvious.
     
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  7. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Yes check any apps that show on this arrow, some usually eat battery even not opened.
     

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  8. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    just to be clear its not the battery issue its when plugged into mains TS is saying its power usage is 12W as a comparison my RB15 1070 is like 1.2W
     
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  9. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Ups my bad thought it’s battery issue. Can you upload your 1,2 watt power usage, it’s too low I think. Here’s my 1070 8750H. Plugged idle power usage.
     

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  10. EmeraldBolt

    EmeraldBolt Member

    Do you get 1.2 on idle even though you have opened applications? Because I'm able to get that in idle, now that I'm working it's fluctuating but as soon as I stop working and check ThrottleStop the values decrease to a number under 2.0 W
     
  11. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    will do later. hmm I think TS isn't doing anything to the processor or something is stopping it. is that a possibility?
    as lowering the voltage doesn't seem to do anything
     
  12. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    no just ts opened for me it goes to 1.2W. in other words when the laptop is ide
     
  13. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Wait wait guys, what are you talking about, am I missing something? This’s 8750H we’re taking about not ultrabook cpu, how can it goes to 1.2 watt? It’s 45 watt tdp may boost to 60watt or higher, on balanced mode it’ll be limited around 25 watt or lower, idle is under 10 watt but not 1,xx like ultrabook cpu that mostly with 15 Watt tdp. Here’s some cpu power usage comparison.
     
  14. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    this is what we mean

    as to the question ts is working with my friends laptop it looks like its a bios issue. will post more when we know
     

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  15. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Yes it’s cpu tdp, I sometimes also noticed under 2 watt but super rarely. Usually averaging 5 to watt. You’re probably limiting Turbo boost amplifier or processor power state % a lot, and that answer my question. I don’t limiting all of those. Can you try running cinebench 15 and get multi score around 1200cb or xtu benchmark score around 1500?
     
  16. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    We are running all in Balanced mode, synaps and power plan.
    Core 1 39
    Core 2 37
    Core 3 37
    Core 4 36
    Core 5 35
    Core 6 35
    CPU core and Cache offset -0.1250
    Intel GPU offset -0.0400
    So at those settings of the new 2019 model my friend is getting idle at 12W compared to my 2018 model of 1.2W
    So is that normal or is there an issue?
     
  17. crypticc

    crypticc New Member

    Hi

    Just to advise that I've swapped my 2018 4k/60Hz GTX 1070 Razer for a 2019 RTX 2080 144Hz/Hz

    Big plus:
    If anyone is thinking of the switch this thing runs MUCH cooler - where the old one even say just showing a citrix/Chrome window might spin up the fans - this one is silent/fanless until actually stressing out the CPU/GPU.

    Okay:
    I don't mind 1080 vs 4k to be honest. I spent most of the time on the 4k model wishing some less well-coded apps scaled their fonts properly.
    I don't miss the touch-screen which I used only occasionally when touching/resizing photos. Maybe I'm just a die-hard mouse user.

    Less good:
    Compared to the 4k the black levels are less good.
    Also I didn't realise just how easily I would notice the colour-gamut differences. Most easily seen on the "Razer-Green".
    In Razer Synapse - where the Razer-green represented on screen on the 4k model would not look that different to the electric-green on the keyboard or razer logo on the back. Very bright and super-saturated. The 144Hz model is no-where near. Increasing the brightness just reduces the saturation.

    Benchmarks
    I'll update benchmarks shortly but on my first try of 3D mark the tool advised that the GPU drivers were not standard so wouldn't calc a score.

    I think certainly the 2018 4k model I had was a bit of a unicorn - It would undervolt almost indefinitely without blue-screen/forceclosing (although I did note that past a sweet-spot of 140-150 that throttling/performance ceased to improve and then as volts decreased performance first ceased to improve and then from around 160 actually started to decrease)


    Initial findings: Timespy
    2018 4k 1070 NoUV NoOC 4914
    2019 1080 2080 NoUV NoOC 7665
     
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  18. Joikansai

    Joikansai Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    It’s pretty normal for undervolting value and amplifier limitation not too huge, interesting that your is often on 1.2 which means you have super power efficient cpu (in this case maybe you get decent battery life?). Mine is between 5 to 12 watt (-13mV normal uV, -70mV imo tweak uV value) on idle which is totally fine as that Notebookcheck article wrote. Usually user complains high tdp on idle if it’s over 20 Watt and mostly on battery life theme. Actually I don’t care idle 45Watt if it’s plugged since I need that performance on every single tasks:smile_: On battery it’s different story.
     
  19. iDATUS

    iDATUS Member

    Thank for ever so much for your reply. This will make my friend happy to know he hasn't got an issue.
    Yes my battery life is good. Posted some YouTube clips about it in the past.
    Even on my 4K baby.

    Told him I was talking to the best person on it. Thanks again for help and likes on my posts. Really get a kick out of it.
     
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  20. crypticc

    crypticc New Member


    Updated results with UV and a light OC of the GPU core/Mem.
    (the 2018 model is a more refined tune although I can't quite remember the settings for GPU - but from a quick play there's less capacity to improve no the 2019. This is -140 CPU UV and +250/+180 GPU. You'll see thermals are still much better)

    TimeSpy
    2018 4k 1070 UV OC 5578
    2019 1080 2080 UV OC 7914

    Fire Strike
    2018 4k 1070 UV OC1 15189
    2019 1080 2080 UV OC 17990
     
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