What happens next?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DiabolikMind, Jan 21, 2017.

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  1. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    When posting in Min's thread "what would you like to see next from Razer?" what happens if someone post is actually considered and realized?
    Is the idea prized in someway? Has this never happened?
    I'm just curious about it.
     
  2. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    It's just a suggestions / want thread. To my knowledge there's no reward, other than knowing that you might have helped them with an idea. Chances are that somewhere in the nearly 200 pages that most ideas have been suggested more than once anyway. :)
     
  3. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    Well if that's the case kind of a disappointment.
    I mean, they should reward in some way (money's not a must obviously).
     
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  4. unicoder

    unicoder New Member

    Most larger companies have disclaimers in the terms of service, that say any ideas posted are theirs to pursue without looping you in.

    I would assume Razer's ToS for using the forums has a similar clause in it. But I haven't read all of it.
     
  5. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    Maybe, I don't think personally it matches Razer's motto and style. So we don't actually know what would exactly happen, meh.
     
  6. unicoder

    unicoder New Member

    You are right on that for sure, their style is way more community friendly. Which is why I stick around!
     
  7. Destrok

    Destrok Well-Known Member

    The reward is that Razer as a company actually listens to feedback and tailors their products based partially on that feedback.
     
  8. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    Well I think if you make money with an idea of mine you should at least give me one copy free as a thanking, is that being greedy?
     
  9. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    Going out on a limb here and being far more rude than I normally would be, so just take it with a grain of salt and realize it's only just my two cents and my own personal opinion:

    But yes, I think it is being greedy wanting to be rewarded with a free item just because you *might* have inspired an idea.

    As was said before, it's relatively unlikely that folks are coming up with truly unique ideas, so Razer is most likely taking the things they've already come up with in their own R&D department plus reading our ideas and then making something that is exactly what they want it to be. I'd be willing to guess that each new product is a hybrid of hundreds of ideas. Why reward just one, and only one, of those many ideas? I'd just be super excited that they listened and were willing to think that one of my ideas was good enough to incorporate into one of their bigger designs.
     
  10. ARMOR_152

    ARMOR_152 Well-Known Member

    If you ever did come up with a unique idea, posting it anywhere online would be a horrible idea if you want to make a profit on it. You'd want to get a patent which are $10k-$30k. Big commitment and huge risk starting a business or new unique product but hey everything has to start somewhere.:wink_:
     
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  11. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    You gotta be kidding me.
    How's that being greedy?
    If you take my idea and profit without issues, that's greedy.
    And I'm talking about the case they make a thing exactly as said, not taking a bunch of random ideas and mixing them.
    People normally get paid to come up with new ideas for brands and products you know?
    As ARMOR_152 said if I have a profitable idea I'm not going to give it up for free for a "thank you", that's just logic (the free item was just an example).
    But ARMOR_152 you have to consider that maybe if you have and idea and someone can realize it while you can't compromise could be useful.
     
  12. w9jds

    w9jds Active Member

    If you recommend an idea, then you automatically give up rights to any kind of compensation. On top of that, expecting anything when all you did was have the idea. Didn't do any of the research, development, or production is pretty asinine in my opinion. Even more, I highly doubt that it would be the first person recommending an idea, or even they haven't looked into or tested already. Companies have huge R&D departments for a reason :wink_:

    It is like every person that comes to me with an app Idea who thinks it is absolute gold. They expect they will make millions, you make it for them for free, and they get all the credit... After they do nothing. If you have an idea you think is worth something, then go get a patent, do research, then try and find someone to build it. Otherwise, suggestions are always just free ideas.
     
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  13. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    And so the question is, why should someone give for free his idea to Razer (which would have only pros in case)?
    What I wanted to know was if there's a reason to do it but it seems not.
    I mean, even contributing and following the realization of an idea and having a word on its building it's worth something for someone.
    In few words, best case scenario is a written "thank you".
    Well if that's it the thread served to his purpose and explained that, thanks guys.

    P.S: "all you did was having the idea" lmao. Yeah history can totally teach that ideas are useless and unworthy, Silicon valley can prove that too (or medical industry or literally whatever).
     
  14. Destrok

    Destrok Well-Known Member

    If that is how you feel, then don't share, lol. IF your idea is really THAT GOOD its probably something you would go to them directly about and partner with them over anyways.. But if you really don't want your ideas taken for nothing then don't contribute them. For the most part the what do you want to see next thread is for feedback from users who actually own existing products as well as ideas for potential next steps. I suggested they make a flight stick for people who like flight sim games like elite dangerous. But I didn't tell them how to design it or what parts to use, so I am not really entitled to anything if they do make one. I just commented something that I would like to see the company do.
     
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  15. TheGurgeMan7

    TheGurgeMan7 Well-Known Member

    I have an Idea about making personal jetpacks. If anyone ever makes a personal jetpack, igs is all my work and I deserve a free one as compensation. Its almost like walking up to a resturant and saying you thought of buying the food after you ate it, and now you should be able to leave. If you truely have a genuine idea that could work out, make it yourself.
     
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  16. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Ooooomg I have so many ideas, just wish I knew how to execute. I'm thinking about looking into Shenzhen for manufacturing but I'm pretty noob at this entrepreneur stuff. Sometimes I just want to post on a crowdfunding site like Kickstarter, but I don't them to be stolen or copied .

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    Well I think the point of that thread is simply for Razer to ask us what we want to see. If you choose to contribute, then do so without expecting compensation.

    For example, if your friend asked you to help them make a decision, you wouldn't expect something in return right?

    Razer pays its designers, engineers, and creatives to come up with ideas.

    So why would anyone give their ideas to Razer? Because some people just want to help out without expecting anything in return.

    If you have an awesome idea you want to hold onto, that is certainly not the place to waste it.
    Razer world domination?
     
  17. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    Ideas doesn't mean requests (like something existing redone by Razer).
    I mean something like for example the solution for having backlighted characters on mechanical keyboards without having hotspots or uneven lights exc or an adjustable noise switch idk.

    Razer is a company, not a friend and it will never act as so, no I'm not gonna help them to make money (personal publicity or review to friends and whatever aside) expecting nothing.
    If people would do that normally they wouldn't pay designers or creatives and engineers don't you think?
    Also I never mentioned my posts or ideas, I was only curious about the whole thing!
     
  18. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    That's just your personal opinion though. If you don't want to "help them make money" then that's perfectly fine. However, a lot of fans are willing to help out while expecting nothing in return.
     
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  19. DiabolikMind

    DiabolikMind Member

    Yes it is, to me that's nonsense but they can and they are free to.
    I repeat once again, I just wanted to know if someone ever submitted something then used and Razer behaviour about the whole thing, I'm not forcing anyone doing anything, it was just curiosity.
     
  20. w9jds

    w9jds Active Member

    That is far from nonsense. If you have an idea for improving something, if you tell them, they might implement it. Which means you get what you wanted, and you don't have to spend tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop, build a prototype, test, manufacture and use the actual product. Again, it is just an idea.

    You say look at history, okay lets do that. Guy that had the idea about facebook != Zuckerberg, who makes the money oh the guy the invested time and money to build it. How about an operating system, definitely wasn't Bill Gates idea. He did invest his time and money building one, and he's the one who is rich too. I can keep going.

    Point is, this question is kind of dumb. Expecting something for just an idea/suggestion is asinine. On top of that, if that is what drives you to actually help someone or anyone then that kind of makes you a terrible person too. Do you expect a reward for helping someone with a paper for school, or giving them a second pair of eyes on a problem they are having? I hope not.

    The whole point of that thread you are talking about is exactly that, getting user feedback on what they want. In the end Razer is just a company, and making products that they only care about and then trying to sell them isn't very smart. The smart way to run a business is to find what your target audience wants then build a product. Lots of companies do it this way now. I got flown to Seattle by Microsoft just so they could ask me, as a leader in Android development, what kind of development tools they could build that would make my life easier.
     
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