Why hasn't Razer taken the next obvious step?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PixelScore, Mar 8, 2016.

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  1. PixelScore

    PixelScore New Member

    First, I would like to say that I understand, yes, that Razer is a brand. Just like any other brand, there goal is to please consumers and make money at the same time. (Generally speaking, that is.)

    However, E-Sports is becoming a movement, more and more people everyday are starting to learn about this crazy phenomenon. If Razer claims to be the pioneers of E-Sports, there is only one large logical step left.

    Before I reveal this idea, I would like you to keep in mind the following things. Some colleges have scholarships for league of legends, I believe there are two of them. Even a few high schools are starting to catch on making their own varsity teams for this new found "sport".

    Why hasn't Razer started a movement to encourage schools to make varsity teams?

    Now, I'm not against Razer or anything at all. Maybe they haven't had the idea yet, but regardless this is the next needed step if E-Sports is to grow large enough to be considered an actual sports by parents and onlookers alike.

    Think about it. Every last one of you, with the exception of a few weird ones... Your parents said that you couldn't make a living off of video games. That just isn't the case anymore folks! I see people making millions on the scene. Here is the difference though... People will claim it's like any other sport, you only hear about the ones who get famous. While this is true to a certain degree, I heavily believe that If you are on the pro scene for any competitive video game, it is because you practiced and got the required skill needed to be there.

    If Razer was the one to start this movement, The company would get even bigger! I used to think that Razer was this crazy famous brand for gaming hardware and software alike. However, after talking to friends and a bunch of fellow peers, I learned that almost none of them knew who Razer are. With this type of a bold move, they could earn themselves a large amount of attention.

    What is the benefit of having E-Sport varsity teams anyways? Well, there are a ton. The main one being that If someone wanted to be on the varsity team, they would need a high enough GPA. This would encourage students failing their classes who enjoy playing games to work hard to get themselves to a point where they want to be. Playing video games for a living.

    I'm not going to give Razer ideas on how to accomplish this task, because I can guarantee you it would be a large one. However, I do believe Razer has the name and the money to attempt something like this, and if they go about it correctly It could be something that changes the history of overall sports forever.

    Thank you for reading my idea of making E-Sports a varsity sport, I hope you guys liked it.
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2016
  2. gaykob7

    gaykob7 Well-Known Member

    Well in Asia they do a lot in terms of e-sports, like sponsoring teams and making contest etc...
    Over here in Europe or other western countries we don't really notice much of what they are doing, but Asia is just a bigger market for e-sports so it's natural that they do most of their stuff over there.
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  3. PixelScore

    PixelScore New Member

    True, but I guess what I'm trying to say is why not make it a big market over here? I know there is a near infinite league fan base here, along with a few dota people here and there. Not to mention CS:GO and other stuff. If they started tournaments and encouraged schools and such to start the movement in america, I'm pretty sure it would get big in no time.
  4. GenTheIdiot

    GenTheIdiot Active Member

    Asia caught onto the movement really early. A lot of the reason why the western world hasn't really taken to it is basic mindsets. In North America (I speak for both Canada and the US), this isn't as much of a focus on computers, and because of good ol' tradition, it's considered bad to be on the computer/other devices when you could talk to other people, or be with friends. Parents see kids spending time on computers playing video games (instead of studying, or other stuff), and they see an introverted kid who needs redirection. This is all a very different story in Asia, where teams are treated like royalty. In the Valve film Free To Play, I vividly remember someone say that a soccer/football team was feeling depressed, so they brought in a national League of Legends team to give them a pep talk, cause they were the ones the soccer players looked up to.

    Here's another reason: Schools themselves. All/most other sports are just that: sport. You exercise your body, and (if you're lucky to live in a city with multiple teams) you compete with other schools. Then there's the issue of the ESRB/Pegi rating of the games. CS:GO is rated M 17+ for Mature. You graduate school at 18 years of age, but if your birthday is after the school year ends you'd be 17. That's 1-2 years only for CS:GO, and those 1-2 years are the years that a) universities look at when it comes to grades and b) the hardest years of high-school. Your idea about GPA is an interesting one, but sticking with my points for CS:GO, the 3rd most popular E-Sport, it's not plausible. There is a jock stereotype for a reason. Take the American football teams for example: You can get football scholarships if you are a legend player, even if you don't have very good grades. So, the GPA average cutoff idea wouldn't work for normal people. Remember, the last two years of high-school are extremely difficult, because you have very challenging courses. I can see where you're coming from, and it has good nature, but it just wouldn't work.


    In university, it's plausible. I live in a university town, a small one in Ontario, Canada. Our university isn't very big, but we do have a League of Legends team. Our team is very good, ranked 15th in North America during the school year (they don't really play during the summer, for social reasons I think). If Razer starts pushing more games, more teams, more sponsorships to more universities, I think that it's definitely a possibility that someone would listen.


    This is extremely risky for Razer at the moment, as so few universities have teams, and offering sponserships for teams that they don't have much intel on isn't really good business practice.

    So, I think that your ideas are definitely solid, but being the fun-at-parties-guy that I am, here are my reasons for why it doesn't, and won't work. At least for the time being. I do hope that Razer or someone else does jump on this, but for now, I don't think it'll happen.

    Asia likes e-sports, NA is hesitant, ratings are a thing, and I'm bad at writing tl;dr's.

    Have a great day.
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  5. PixelScore

    PixelScore New Member

    Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but couldn't the school have the student bring a slip of paper home granting them permission to play CS:GO? And, even if that isn't the case, there are still plenty of other competitive games that aren't rated M. (Like, practically every MOBA out there) And there could still be teams for that?

    EDIT: Also, If I remember correctly, A majority of E-Sports teams out there have to work out and keep in physical shape because... Like the kings of E-Sports said, something along the lines of physical shape goes hand in hand with mental shape... Your reaction times will be slow if you aren't in shape. Perhaps exercise could be implemented with part of the schedule if it ever happened...?
  6. Irenicussss

    Irenicussss Member

    The idea is nice, probably they don't do yet because it would cost a lot in terms of organisation and money.
  7. GenTheIdiot

    GenTheIdiot Active Member

    I do believe that you're wrong. Ratings are enforceable, as retailers won't let you buy games rated higher than your age. So for CS:GO, or any FPS, no. For other MOBA's, like League, it's definitely a better chance, but it'll be hard convincing people to go for it. Also, League has a destructive ranking system. To stay challenger, you have to play at least 3 matches every day, plus warmup, and cooldown if you want to play like that. The pro players get up, eat, play, eat a little more, play, and then go to bed. That's all they do, all day, every day. Don't get me wrong, some people like that, but it's a destructive lifestyle.
  8. PixelScore

    PixelScore New Member

    I guess my idea was a slight bit different then what you're probably thinking about, my bad on that, I should have been a slight bit more vivid.

    My idea is have these competitions between schools. (At a high school level.)

    So, let's take the state of Michigan for example, (The state where I live,) I know there are league players all over the place. Definitely enough to start something like this. At school, everyday they have practice. long enough for, say, two or three games?

    then every three months, a competition happens, regional, states, then nationals. Whoever won these tournaments got a cool trophy and money for their school, or something like that?

    However, the idea behind this would be geared more to represent what the real E-Sports scene is like. I don't think it would be too hard for schools to assemble a team, considering only 5 people are needed for a single team. I know the idea would take a good amount of time to put into place... but I definitely think it's possible. Students could get Jersies. Trust me, if students found out this was a thing they would flock too it.

    I just think that E-Sports is a valid sport, and the american culture will need to embrace it at one point or another.
  9. GenTheIdiot

    GenTheIdiot Active Member

    This isn't necessarily true. League teams are known to have coaches, and shot-callers. No school has these types of people who know how the game works, and how to actually organize an E-sports team.
    Yes, that's true. There are League players everywhere, I mean, astronauts probably play too. However, everyday practice is not actually condoned by schools, as there needs to be time for homework, and home life. 1 game alone can take 45 minutes to an hour, so 2-3 games is a little ambitious.
    This is actually a very good point. The inter-school tri-monthly competition isn't a bad idea. Except, you're gonna need to eliminate a step there. Either regional, or state. This is because there just wouldn't be enough time to fit it all in before the end of December (the end of a League ranked season).

    I just realized that (for League anyways) this would be so destructive as a team sport. The team would have to change mid-school year, because of how the League ranked season works. I suppose this isn't a terrible thing, I mean a lot of other sports do this too, but it would be kinda bad. It's essentially kicking the oldest members off the team. I suppose you could have the best as a shot-caller after that, but I wouldn't advise this.

    Also, I'm agreeing with you. I'm just telling you why it probably won't happen.
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  10. PixelScore

    PixelScore New Member

    Yes, I guess when I said everyday I meant every school day? probably more around two games max.

    My home MOBA is Dota 2 however, and we don't have seasons... So It could probably work for Dota a lot better. However, I don't think there is enough of them.
  11. Ur2eZ_4_Me

    Ur2eZ_4_Me Active Member

    This would never be allowed by school boards. Sure, competitive e-sports can be a fun way to allow children to compete, but it's not fitting for a school setting. School's are designed to educate, and sports are there to help encourage physical activity which is crucial in bone, muscular and neural development (especially at younger ages). Video games are a passion of mine and many others, but they don't promote any of these values.
  12. GenTheIdiot

    GenTheIdiot Active Member

    Dota appeals to an older demographic, not unlike Starcraft. So, less players, less chance of a team.
  13. RScrub

    RScrub Active Member

    That's much too much work. There was a Super Smash Bros Club at my school last year, but they were not allowed to meet anymore because the school didn't like Bayonetta
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