Newbies - Building OverKill Streaming, Gaming PC, & Mining

Discussion in 'Battlestations' started by -Mr.Nobody-, Apr 13, 2021.

  1. -Mr.Nobody-

    -Mr.Nobody- Active Member

    I am newbie here never once build a pc but, after looking around i feel like to build one for my self. need kind of advice from you smart people here :blush: if there is something i need to add or change that would help me a lot for building this pc.

    here is the specs that i come up with:

    • Motherboard: ASRock X570 TAICHI RAZER Edition AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
    • CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core 3.4GHz (4.9GHz Max Boost)
    • Memory: 64GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3000MHz
    • Water Cooling: not sure which one is good
    • System Fans: not sure which one is good
    • GPU: RTX 3080
    • OS: Windows 10 64bit
    • OS Drive: 2TB Samsung 980 PRO
    • Storage: 4TB Samsung 870 QVO Series
    • Power Supply: CORSAIR 750 RMx SERIES PLUS GOLD ( not sure if this is the best for this kind of horse power )
    • Cases: Corsair 680X ( my opinion with best cooling is this one, if there is better option let me know )


    Noted: if there is something i need to change or added to this list feel free to let me know. thank you for helping me :blush:

    also if you have your list specs with budget i would love to know :blush:
     
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  2. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    My recommendation

    CPU: I'm an Intel fan, but if you are going with AMD, I would choose AMD Ryzen 9 5900X
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    My work colleague also did the same, he advised Ryzen 9 5950X produce more heat which is why clock speed is slower. You will need a very powerful cooling solution to beat Ryzen 9 5900X. Can help you save some money also.

    Water cooling: It depends on what chassis and CPU you have. Since Ryzen 9 5950X is powerful, a radiator with big dimension is necessary. 120mm by 360mm.

    System fans: This also depends on what chassis you have and what size can fit into your chassis. Once fans are bought, you need to plan how you are going to circulate the air flow effectively to cool down the chassis.

    GPU: RTX 3080 is powerful. Razer fans love zsilver mining through Gamma; downside of RTX 3000 series, its GPU architecture (Ampere) does not support zsilver mining. I recommend RTX 2080 TI or RTX 2080 Super.

    PSU: This is also a very wide topic to discuss. Cannot believe I am advising this for free.
    Definition of reliable PSU: A unit that can stand longevity and that can sustain the high wattage during OCing.

    So, if you are going with RTX 3080, 750W PSU should be good, but if you are planning to upgrade the GPU or add additional GPU, then I would think about 1000 - 1200W.
    I always like to plan ahead with PSU, so that I get options to upgrade. Corsair PSU have letters A, H and R (so far that I know of). A and H series are meant for servers, PSU that is reliable that can guarantee it will last long. Not saying R is terrible, but if you want a reliable PSU then something to consider.
    PSU also have grades (Platinum, Gold, Bronze), just like the letters, Platinum and Gold are best and reliable.

    Case choice: I like ATX size then ITX size.
    Once again this is about component implementation. I was quite shocked how big some of the RTX 3000 series come in. You have to consider what component are being added to your chassis and that it actually fits all in like a glove.
     
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  3. -Mr.Nobody-

    -Mr.Nobody- Active Member

    @Sye_The-Vie sorry for late reply i have been out for a minute this week. anyway thank you for your advice and i really appreciated for the details from what you explained i think im going to get 5900x since not much big of difference with 5950x and way more efficient

    i have been looking around for water cooling im going for Corsair Hydro x Cooling easy to maintain

    for the chassis mid tower corsair 680x looks nice have lots of air flow for the time being until there is better option im going with this.

    i have no idea thanks for the heads up i know its going to be hard this day to find those 2080 wish me luck :D

     
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  4. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    It seems you are going with the selection of Corsair case, good choice
    If I know modern Corsair cases, they should come with an internal 6 multi RGB hub (for system fans with RGB lighting), but do find out.
    Corsair offers the following parts to build a pc (which I think you are already aware)
    • System fans
    • Water cooling (120 * 360 if you are going with AMD Ryzen 9 5900X)
    • PSU (750W above)
    • RAM module (thinking you will go with 32 GB)
    • SSD
    I'm not sure about other battlestation builders, but my recommendation is to try keep all parts under the same manufacturer name. This give advantage of the followings~~~
    • Easier RGB synchronization and configuration
    • Less RGB applications running in the background
    • Some computer parts store give discount on same manu name purchase
    I would recommend getting a Corsair Command Pro, it delivers the followings~~~
    • Addition 6x fan plugs
    • 4x temperature sensor wiring
    • 2x 9 pin USB 2.0 internal plugs
    Speaking of 9 pin USB 2.0, find out how many internal USB 2.0 plug the selection of your motherboard comes with. This plug is what you use to connect Corsair Command Pro, Corsair water cooling head RGB and PSU monitoring. I use in total of 4.

    My first choice of motherboard only came with one, so I had to purchase the 9 pin USB 2.0 splitter. Other choice is NZXT Internal USB Hub. Best to have 2 of these plugs on the motherboard.

    LTT sort of displays in the following video at 08:40



    A lot to study and experience. I'll add more if I can give you more pointers.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2021
  5. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    @-Mr.Nobody- how is your progress so far~~~
    This is my opinion on Custom water cooling

    Custom water cooling sure looks cool, it gives the advantage of~~~
    • Effective cooling then air (benchmark and/or OCing results will tell you)
    • Light reflection from the tubes, sure can turn your pc to a disco lighting
    If you are planning no upgrades for near future then I don't mind custom water cooling. But it is 'that' I find frustrating. As a Battlestation enthusiast, I do regular upgrades and changes to my chassis. Downside of custom water cooling~~~
    • Internal upgrading/changing can be painful
    • Your GPU warranty (if bought new) will be nullified
    • Bad piping configuration can cause big loss (non-conductive liquid is in order, but a little pricy)
    • Requires more thorough maintenance compared to air. Especially for any leaks and rust builds
    • Emptying the liquid before moving the chassis is recommended. Especially house to house.
     
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  6. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    The following video is old (Released on April 23rd 2017)



    Back then, the TITAN Xp and SLI bridging sure was booming, but "now" things have changed~~~
    • ATM SLI and nvlink bridge days are over (nvlink for 3090 is not worth it)
    • RTX 3080 beats TITAN Xp (in terms of performance)
    • TITAN Xp does not support ray tracing
    upload_2021-4-27_3-17-24.png

    Terry Crews is kind of stuck with that PC, unless he decides to say goodbye to piping and move to upgrading. So custom water cooling is cool for certain period, but when that period expires for when you want to upgrade your hardware............

    Start crying~~~
     
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  7. Sameerrr

    Sameerrr New Member

    This is very good setup. My dream
     
  8. -Mr.Nobody-

    -Mr.Nobody- Active Member

    im waiting 2 important parts for my build at the moment, the GPU and Processor. my CPU is on its way but the GPU still no luck

    ive got pretty much all the parts except those 2 >.<

    im hunting 2080 ti and 3080 they both rocket price. They said nvidia will do something about the GPU i hope that is true
     
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2021
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  9. FiszPL

    FiszPL Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    It will be hard to get decent (new) GPU these days...
     
  10. -Mr.Nobody-

    -Mr.Nobody- Active Member

    it is really hard. i have been looking around for weeks. the price it self can get the new razer blade -_-
     
  11. FiszPL

    FiszPL Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    So why not get a new blade? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
     
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  12. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Even second hands from ebay, craigslist?~~~
    maybe~~~
     
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  13. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    if I'm correct, @-Mr.Nobody- goal is an ATX size battlestation; and who already has a Blade.
    Gamers or no gamers, they should have one Battlestation (Primary) and one Laptop (Secondary)
     
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  14. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

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  15. -Mr.Nobody-

    -Mr.Nobody- Active Member

    @Sye_The-Vie already owned blade this is what im curently used for work and gaming.
    i hope 3080 ti coming out as they said with reasonable price
     
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  16. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Perfect video and timing for you @-Mr.Nobody-
    Once you get your hands on a GPU that is~~~



    Still planning with RTX 3080 TI?
    If yes, you also need a water block for the RTX 3080 TI size (don't know if one is available)~~~

    I am thinking Corsair Hydro X Series XG7 is your choice for RTX 3000 series, maybe~~

    Wrong size will be a money blower~~~
     
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  17. -Mr.Nobody-

    -Mr.Nobody- Active Member

    just checked out his video, the ard tube looks solid and clean but im afraid. i think i will go for soft tube instead. along the way i might change with hard tube when i feel comfortable playing around with it. that video is super helpful. thank you @Sye_The-Vie
    im still hunting around either 3080 or 2080 ti both are still hard to find with decent price. i guess i will wait until nvidia announcement
     
  18. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Another helpful tutorial on soft tubing vs hard tubing @ 11:57
    Pretty much, cheap labor vs expensive labor, what will your choice be?

    Cheap labor: things will get messy fast
    Expensive labor: opposite to cheap labor



    In fact this video also goes over~~~
    • The choice of radiator size (OCing or not)
    • Choice of fans (static pressure vs airflow optimize)
    • Cleaning the radiators
    • Pointers of choice of liquid
    • Not to mix metals (causing galvanic corrosion)
    15 minute of great tutorial worth watching~~~
     
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  19. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    Another helpful tutorial: How to bend hard tubes



    Gosh with enough tutorials, I think I'm gonna plan my custom water cooling for sometime this year~~~
     
  20. Sye_The-Vie

    Sye_The-Vie Well-Known Member VANGUARD

    I am sorry @-Mr.Nobody-

    Two powerful beast that are in my apartment in standby for experimental purpose.
    It is like holding onto a bullion
     

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