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Razer Junglecat - Leap into battle!

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NK.33
Hi Guys,

First of all, this gamepad app with octopus plugin is simply amazing.

....however - i played Call of Duty - 1 game - first game ever - told me i was banned after...

Is this because they detected i was using this plugin and a gamepad???

surely not?

Surely its just a matter of preference right? Some people prefer touchscreen, some mouse/keyboard, some gamepad???

Anyone have a clue?
S
sourcebytePeachYellow116
The remote play app only supports PS4 controllers on Android 10. So that's not an option unfortunately. It only supports touch input on Android 9 and below.


Also, the right analog issue is not unique to the remote play app, it behaves the same on any app where I use the octopus plugin. I'm looking for a cross app solution.



So, follow up on the right analog stick issue AND PS4 remote play after a day of testing

  • The right analog issue is a feature, not a bug. Its intended to flick since that mimics the hand gesture in many games
  • There IS an option to have a regular right analog touch map in the Octopus Pro standalone app, which I tested and works exactly as I expected (there's a little configuration button when you place the right analog stick that lets you choose)
  • The above feature is not in the gamepad app version of octopus, I imagine it will be soon
  • Neither the gamepad app or the octopus pro standalone app actually support the remote play ps4 app. They both cause either an error or a crash. I believe it has to do with the "task affinity" feature they use which allows the gamepad pro app to masquerade as another app (evidenced by apps asking for "octopus" to have permission rather than the actual app that's running). Remote Play does not like this.
  • Octopus apparently has another variant of its software, Panda Gamepad Pro, that does work with remote play because it does NOT use the above mentioned task affinity. Instead it requires an "activation" application run from windows or Mac using USB debugging in developer mode and only works until the device is restarted. This allowed me to run remote play, but had the same issue with the right analog stick as the Razer gamepad app.
  • In the end I found two PS4 remote play apps that already support controllers! PStreamer (which is not free, $12 a licence) and an open source one called Chiaki that was difficult to set up. I tested PStreamer with a trial version and lo' and behold the junglecat worked perfect - I literally almost cried.


So if anyone is having this issue with the right analog, I say wait for the gamepad app to be updated to the latest version of the octopus plugin that solves it. If your issue is with PS4 remote play, use one of the third party apps I mentioned that nationally supports it.
B
I wanted to love the case soo bad. I thought I finally found a controller solutions for my android gaming woes. This case ended up not being it. I purchased the case from amazon at the of 100 bux. I am returning the case in a mere two days because there was not much thought put into the phones case design. It offers no protection to the phone whatsoever. My note 9 ended up with a broken glass protector because the case slipped out of my hand while trying to attach the controller. After that, the already attached controller no longer locked onto the case. For 100 dollars I think the case needs to be more substantial than the Tyco grade plastic shell that is included. Honestly I am not surprised with all the crit and comments we have not seen a comment made by a Razer rep at all. Why so limited on the support is something that baffles me. I honestly can only beleive this was just an open test of beta hardware like stated before...
Again, I wanted to love the case...
MrRaptor63
Userlevel 3
I use the JungleCat daily but will definitely be looking to add the Kishi as soon as its released.
https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/07/razer-kishi-gamepad-plugs-into-your-phone-for-minimal-latency/
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NK.33
MrRaptor63
I use the JungleCat daily but will definitely be looking to add the Kishi as soon as its released.
https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/07/razer-kishi-gamepad-plugs-into-your-phone-for-minimal-latency/


Seriously FFS....if i knew this was comimg I wouldn't have wasted money on the Junglecat.....this looks much better because a) its universal and b) you dont need to use the crap case Razer provide with the Junglecat....I have a feeling as well, that as its actually plugged in to the phone you can also power the phone through it so not to lose charge.....this was a design fault of the Junglecat IMO

Also i wonder if you can still use the USB audio while gaming.....another design fault of the Junglecat
Yorkifyme
Userlevel 4
NK.33
Seriously FFS....if i knew this was comimg I wouldn't have wasted money on the Junglecat.....this looks much better because a) its universal and b) you dont need to use the crap case Razer provide with the Junglecat....I have a feeling as well, that as its actually plugged in to the phone you can also power the phone through it so not to lose charge.....this was a design fault of the Junglecat IMO

Also i wonder if you can still use the USB audio while gaming.....another design fault of the Junglecat

It seems you aren’t alone in the situation. Fortunately there’s probably lots of people who would take your jungle cat off your hands if you decide to switch over to the Kishi. I hope you are still enjoying your jungle cat, at least.
NK.33
Yorkifyme
It seems you aren’t alone in the situation. Fortunately there’s probably lots of people who would take your jungle cat off your hands if you decide to switch over to the Kishi. I hope you are still enjoying your jungle cat, at least.


yes the Junglecat works very well....there doesnt seem to be any lag with it either (not that i notice) and i like how small and compact it is.

To me there would not be much reason to buy this new one (Kishi) ATM ...however i do like the fact they have moved the right analogue down as thats where i like it (usually play with Xbox One controller).

I dont think the Kishi looks very "Razery" either....just looks like a generic universal controller you can find all over Amazon...I think the buttons need to be more Razer-esque
Yorkifyme
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NK.33
yes the Junglecat works very well....there doesnt seem to be any lag with it either (not that i notice) and i like how small and compact it is.

To me there would not be much reason to buy this new one (Kishi) ATM ...however i do like the fact they have moved the right analogue down as thats where i like it (usually play with Xbox One controller).

I dont think the Kishi looks very "Razery" either....just looks like a generic universal controller you can find all over Amazon...I think the buttons need to be more Razer-esque


I prefer aligned joysticks than offset because I am mainly a PS gamer, but unfortunately the jungle cat doesn't work with ios. I agree the look of the Kishi isn't as flashy as some other Razer designs, but I'm fine with that as long as it feels good and is responsive. I'll make my judgement when I can finally touch the thing.
WHTZMBE
Userlevel 5
PSA. DO NOT use junglecat gamepad app with octopus plugin! Not even with it simply installed!

Octopus plugin gets YOU BANNED like a redheaded step child. I just got banned from cod mobile for launching it from gamepad app. ONLY ONCE. FOR ONE MATCH.

Nvidia shield overlay/controller mapper DOES NOT GET YOU BANNED.
NK.33
worldRazzmicBerrybest167
PSA. DO NOT use junglecat gamepad app with octopus plugin! Not even with it simply installed!

Octopus plugin gets YOU BANNED like a redheaded step child. I just got banned from cod mobile for launching it from gamepad app. ONLY ONCE. FOR ONE MATCH.

Nvidia shield overlay/controller mapper DOES NOT GET YOU BANNED.


hey buddy - i have been using the Octopus plugin and it works so well for every game except COD. it gets me banned for an hour or so.....but i thought they ban use of all overlays? or maybe their servers are not gearded to detect the Nvidia one?

Have you got a link to the APK file?
WHTZMBE
Userlevel 5
NK.33
hey buddy - i have been using the Octopus plugin and it works so well for every game except COD. it gets me banned for an hour or so.....but i thought they ban use of all overlays? or maybe their servers are not gearded to detect the Nvidia one?

Have you got a link to the APK file?

I do have the shield k1 (rooted) but I think the mapping thing is built in. I can look around inside it for you, though.
NK.33
worldRazzmicBerrybest167
I do have the shield k1 (rooted) but I think the mapping thing is built in. I can look around inside it for you, though.

Also,
Has ANYONE successfully connected this junglecat controller to windows PC and used it to play games? (Not through Xbox app, just regularly)
None of my games "sees" it.
It connects to Bluetooth but that's it. I also tried using x360ce, but no profiles available for it.
Chat support was NO help. They said connect it to phone then phone to PC using cable with PC Bluetooth on.
Uh, that didn't work! And honestly didn't make sense.
Support couldn't even tell me if this is a directinput or xinput device.


Any clear help is appreciated!!! Especially since this is advertised as working on mobile AND PC.
(WIN 10)
Games tried were: Control, Metro Exodus and Batman Arkham City.


Hi Mate, the only windows device i have that recognises it via bluetooth as a controller is my Razer Blade Stealth - having said that none of the games pick it up. Moonlight game streaming does not pick it up and also i cant map all the buttons either - even if i use the SDL2 gamepad tool

When i connect it via cable nothing happens - i think this is for charging only.

If anyone else has got this to work on windows please help and detail how....many thanks
J
The bundled RP2 case has no cut out for the Razer RGB logo. That really remove every incentive of buying it for the RP2.
WHTZMBE
Userlevel 5
joey_sfb
The bundled RP2 case has no cut out for the Razer RGB logo. That really remove every incentive of buying it for the RP2.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4105924
WIP. currently testing v2
J
That's great. A must for RP users. I buy Razer for only one reason RGB!!!
NK.33
joey_sfb
The bundled RP2 case has no cut out for the Razer RGB logo. That really remove every incentive of buying it for the RP2.


Yeah loads if peeps already complaining about this including me from day one. There is also no passthrough to charge while you play, plus the case is proper lame so using the case daily will take a design hit which defeats the purpose...

Doed anyone know whem this new one, the kishi comes out in UK??
Saiyan-Rox
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NK.33
Yeah loads if peeps already complaining about this including me from day one. There is also no passthrough to charge while you play, plus the case is proper lame so using the case daily will take a design hit which defeats the purpose...

Doed anyone know whem this new one, the kishi comes out in UK??


I don't think there's a concrete date right now. Most of these concepts from CES usually don't really for a while after.

I'm still trying to get info if the Razer Phones will even fit in it as I have my doubts looking at it.
NK.33
Rox598
I don't think there's a concrete date right now. Most of these concepts from CES usually don't really for a while after.

I'm still trying to get info if the Razer Phones will even fit in it as I have my doubts looking at it.


I wanted to ask the same question....i think this is made to fit pretty much any phone as it extends....I would be interested to see if it extends enough to fit a 10 inch tablet in between,,,,,that would be nice :)

UK release date unknown atm
Saiyan-Rox
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NK.33
I wanted to ask the same question....i think this is made to fit pretty much any phone as it extends....I would be interested to see if it extends enough to fit a 10 inch tablet in between,,,,,that would be nice :)

UK release date unknown atm


It's more about the blockiness of the RP that worries me. The kishi looks like it's tailored more for rounded off phones and that makes me think it won't fit.
D
I'm an RP1 user and I would like to see how much I could Flimslelu DIY to make it works for me.
I really think they should support more phones from the beginning.
NK.33
datapulseDarkSkyBlue751
I'm an RP1 user and I would like to see how much I could Flimslelu DIY to make it works for me.
I really think they should support more phones from the beginning.


Bro - the fact it doesnt support the RP1 out the box is a massive let down - its their own phone ffs - its almost like a middle finger to their loyal fans
A
When the gbinsta latstet version coming?
M
MullenLive
I hope RP1 is also on the list.
I think RP1 and RP2 are quite similar. The only difference is the back camera. I'm wondering maybe it worth a try to buy it and manually cut the hole (or just ignore the back camera).
Would there be any plan to support RP1 in the future?



I think you should try it because I don't think that it's only the camera that makes the difference but if it is then you got something that is brand new
WHTZMBE
Userlevel 5
NK.33
Hi Mate, the only windows device i have that recognises it via bluetooth as a controller is my Razer Blade Stealth - having said that none of the games pick it up. Moonlight game streaming does not pick it up and also i cant map all the buttons either - even if i use the SDL2 gamepad tool

When i connect it via cable nothing happens - i think this is for charging only.

If anyone else has got this to work on windows please help and detail how....many thanks

Use x360ce
It takes the junglecats keyboard/mouse inputs and wraps it to be used like an Xbox controller in Windows games.

It's a wonderful program.
I've used it for years to allow my OG Shield controller to be used in Windows games. Same concept for Junglecat.

You will need an internet to download a profile (through x360ce) for the junglecat. (probably mine), after that, you can change buttons and settings.

If you can't figure it out, I'll be glad to try and help.
S
it's Seriously very find but i think is not better like S20 Ultra 😵😵
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