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Could somebody please specify a specific release date for this year's 4K Blade 15 in the UK because i have been waiting for it and, although Razer said July on their website, the month is almost up and there is no sign of change or release. Pls reply if you know more than I do because it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Synclide
hey thank you for your input, I was of the understanding that no one who pre-ordered the 4k version from any amazon had yet recieved their product. Knowing that the orders of amazon.ca customers are being fulfilled has given me some reassurance that it won't be too much longer that the uk amazon domain recieves and starts delivering blade 15 4k's to their clientele (hopefully in the next fortnite). That being said, I appreciate your in-depth review of your 4k unit and upon seeing many good points about it in your post I have decided to keep my pre-order in place as i think it's worth the money as you said. If you don't mind I have a few questions, I am glad you confirmed that the screen of the 4k version is very vibrant and detailed as It was one of the main reasons I wanted this laptop, so in your opinion does the 100% aRGB on this laptop make for a better visual experiance when watching videos/movies/anime/netflix etc than other sRGB laptops you have owned? Also, since I would like to game on this laptop aswell as doing productivity work, I was wondering if you could play a game like fortnite/leagueoflegends/pubg and let us know how the laptop does? does it run smoothly? im planning on lowering the screen res to 1080p on the in game settings anyway when in game, are refresh rates close to the claimed 60 fps when your gaming in 4k or 1080p?

Thank you!




Hello Synclide,

Glad to hear you are keeping your pre-order. In my opinion it is definitely worth the wait. In my case, the question I had to ask is whether or not I would be disappointed once the GeForce GTX 1170 (or 2070 depending on the nomenclature Nvidia decides to go with) comes out. In my case the 1070 max-q hits my requirements, so the decision made sense for me as this computer should be sufficient for the next 2-3 years for my needs.

To answer your questions:

- Yes, I believe that the 100% colour range on this laptop makes for a vastly improved viewing experience. I'm only an amateur digital photographer, and dabble very limitedly with video production, but from my "pro-sumer" vantage point, this is probably the 2nd best display I have used on a laptop (and very well calibrated to boot.) The only more visually stunning display I've used was the OLED display on my 13" Alienware which was unbelievable in the way it could make colour "pop" (but in my opinion the size trade off vastly trumps the slight increase in visual fidelity (of course this is purely subjective and not a quantified opinion.)

- In regards to your second question, E-Sports games fly on this machine at 1080p, and it barely breaks a sweat. 60 fps at 1080p are constant and fans whirl at a hair above whisper quiet (once again purely a non-scientific assessment.) 4K is definitely achievable at 60 fps with some minor tweaking of settings. If hard core e-sports are the main use, then the 144hz might be some gamers preference, but at the cost of muddy drab display and fuzzy text in anything other than frantic game play use (the 4K in my opinion is the clear winner, as games can always be scaled to 1080p and 60hz is more than sufficient and not worth the 144hz trade-offs.)

I must reiterate that for general office computing, the fans turn completely off which is a nice feature.

In summation, I think you will be very pleased with your pre-order once it ships to you. I am very glad I waited, as I almost cancelled my pre-order too (in order to buy the 144hz variant.) As pre-orders are shipping to Canada (and the US now), I'm sure the UK won't be far behind.) Happy gaming!



pielover7434
I have the new 4K Blade 15. You'll definitely hear the fans ramping up and down doing everyday tasks. I could just have a bade paste job, but I had the same issue on my launch blade 15 144hz, so doubtful. I find your battery life claim 100 percent inaccurate/false. I have the 4k Blade 15 and the 4k Aero 15X. Even after the version 1803 the max battery life you'll be getting is 4:30 hours unless you change A LOT of setting maybe 5:30 if you're lucky. The Aero easily gets 7-8 with its 97watt battery while my 15 blade 4K and others will struggle after the 4:30 hour mark. I don't know why you'd falsify the battery life estimate, but I do agree on your other points about the blade. It's a beautiful machine. I've already had to RMA my power adapter for it and still haven't gotten a replacement. That's on Razer and it's terrible customer support. Although it should've been rectified on a $3,000 laptop. I can see why youtube reviewers are bashing the CS when sending in an RMA. Here is my reddit review. The glossy 4K screen makes it difficult for outdoor use just FYI.https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/945oht/my_impressions_after_having_the_razer_blade_15_4k/


Hi pielover7434,

I'm only trying to give my honest impressions of the 4K Blade as I've experienced them, and I can easily believe that your experiences have varied. Although people are free to take my opinions at face value or disagree that's fine, but please do not muddy the waters by saying I'm "falsifying" my battery life. Please note that my stated 7~8 hour battery life is doing office tasks and not gaming (that's the last I'll engage on this topic as I have no desire to start a flame war.)

Sorry to hear of your power adapter troubles, I'm hoping CS has a replacement out very soon to you.

My fans do not come on during normal office type tasks, nor do they cycle after I updated to 1803. Perhaps I won the "processor chip / pasting lottery", and YMMV depending on who assembled the unit, and which bin the chips were taken out of.

One thing I will mention is that my vapour chamber is copper coloured and does not appear to be painted or enameled in any sort of black paint or coating. Perhaps this is a change Razer is making on new units to improve thermals? My SSD also came with a thermal silicon pad which touches both the top of the drive as well as the bottom shell which seems to be new as I haven't read anything else online about others finding this under the hood.
My 4k laptop was fulfilled by Amazon last week. It took 5 months but I have to admit I am very pleased with it now.
Thanks for all the info Crypticc it will definitely help us get started quicker.

Really happy to see that thermal throttling isn't bad. I'd much rather power limiting than thermal throttling so great to see that happening.



For the performance testing on battery, have you got the "Gforce experience" installed or just the Nvidia drivers.



If you do, look at the "battery boost" option. Nvidia hide it away, but it limits all games to 30 fps when running on battery. It does help by giving you an extra 30 mins of gaming on battery but I wish they made it more obvious.



I'm hoping mine should be any day now, but it's great to know it fulfils it's promises.. sooooo looking forward to it :)



crypticc
Hey Synclide



Where did you get the insurance? When I looked on Amazon there wasn't any.



Thanks

Chris


When you order from amazon there is an insurance option for (£130 - but only at the time of buying).



If you don't have any, consider home contents insurance if you have that (or they have it in the place you live) - you will probably have to add it as a special item but it will protect it from theft etc and IF the policy has accidental damage it will be covered for that too.



(You may also be able to ask Amazon as you did only just buy it)





https://smile.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01DO4AJS6/ref=psd_bb_lm_B07D1H5P8K_B01DO4AJS6



Well I gave up waiting for Amazon UK in the end. I called them and they told me they never had any 4k models in stock (clearly not true) and had no eta



I ordered direct from Razer as I was watching their store and saw one for sale.. So it looks like it should be this week and fingers crossed their support is as good as it has been so far (As I've only had a good experience with them)



The sensible part of me says I should have waited for Amazon, but my heart went with Razer direct 🙂
misterg36


I also saw 45fps in 4k with Destiny 2 (none gaming mode) - so am really happy you can choose full performance with heat, or usable performance with no heat issues.



And wow is it a beautiful laptop :)


45 Fps 4K isn’t bad, 15 FPS better than PS4 Pro, and only 15FPS lower than core v2 1080ti that costs €1300.
crypticc
Well done. A bit ridiculous the idea that Amazon think they never received any because I have one, and they sent it.

Glad you've had a positive experience so far.



Chris


I know. I even said that on the call. All they would say to me was "if it says it hasn't been released we have never had them - otherwise it would say out of stock"



I've seen them on the Razer site for the last 2 months - they pop up for sale for about 10 mins and then are out of stock again.



I just got off the call to Amazon, saw they had one in stock - ordered it and saw it go out of stock 2 mins later.



I think if they had just given me a real date I would have waited.



On a slightly different note I have to say I totally love it. If I stay off "gaming mode" the temperatures never get too high (something the other 6 laptops I sent back never managed).



I also saw 45fps in 4k with Destiny 2 (none gaming mode) - so am really happy you can choose full performance with heat, or usable performance with no heat issues.



And wow is it a beautiful laptop 🙂
misterg36
Well I ordered from Razor on Friday, tracked it all the way from Hong Kong Friday to Oxford UK and it arrived a few mins ago :)




Well done. A bit ridiculous the idea that Amazon think they never received any because I have one, and they sent it.

Glad you've had a positive experience so far.



Chris
Soooo at this point I’m assuming that razer won’t be releasing the 4K in Australia :frown_:
ChiefNieth
Look, the Blade 15 has a major component manufactured in Japan. The flooding in Japan has caused no Blade 15's to be produced, which means a huge backorder of 15's. Either way, bitching on the forums won't make it appear in your country any faster. It's still out of stock here in the US. Everyone can't get one, even the people returning faulty ones for a new one. My best guess? 3rd week of August while backorders in the US are fulfilled, and RMA's are sent out. Happy you know, now?


PeachPuffpulsefocus099
This is specifically about the 4k version, which was slated to be released before that happened - so your point is moot. Bitching doesn't fix it, you're correct - what people ARE doing, as noted in others, is just buying elsewhere. Fan boy a little less, mmmkay? Your guess is as good as Razer's as far as when it will actually be up for SALE, as evidenced by two months of failed deadlines, is pretty useless.






but also seriously please give the house rules a look.
Fuelhandler
My 2018 Razer Blade 4K arrived Fromm Amazon.ca this past Friday. One word: "Wow". First off, I have to say that I am VERY picky and OCD when it comes to build quality issues. I've owned two 14" Razer Blades (860m and 960m) that I've kept with minor build quality issues (dead pixels, and detaching lid insignia). I've also returned two 4K 2017 Razer Blade Pro's and one 2017 14" Razer Blades in the past year due to build quality issues. As far as I can tell, this is the first completely defect free Razer laptop I have owned. Before purchasing this Razer Blade, I purchased and returned 2 2018 1070 Max-Q Gigabyte Aeros because of screen issues (severe backlight bleed, keyboard backlighting unevenness and what appeared to be a hair laminated under one of the screens.)





Pros:

- The 4K touchscreen is vibrant, detailed, colour accurate and defect free (as far as I've noticed so far.) Touch input is accurate. Absolutely no backlight bleed (yay!) Screen is definitely brighter and sharper than the 1080p 144hz model (same LCD is used on both the 1080p 2018 Gigabyte Aero and 1080p 2018 Razer Blade by the way.)

- I had some issues at first with battery life (2~2.5 hours). Unit ran hot and fans would spin up under light load. I upgraded to the most recent build of Windows 10 April Update (1803) and battery life has improved drastically to around 7~8 hours, laptop is running cool as I write this review, and fans are turned off unless under gaming load. Fabulous!

- Everything seems to be running fine. Wifi is rock solid. Speakers are working good (had an issue when I first put headphones in the jack where there was no sound from the headphones, and when I removed the headphones there was no sound from the speakers, but this seems to have self corrected and switches over with no issues again so far.)

Cons:

- Trying to type without hitting the trackpad, as it causes the cursor to jump around, is difficult (palm rejection isn't so great.) I just have to make sure I maintain a proper hand posture while typing (my highschool keyboarding teacher would be proud!)

- The black finish is a real skin oil stain magnet (purely cosmetic and can be easily wh removed.) I actually think it's worse than earlier Razer laptops.



Final Thoughts:

- I had an issue where the battery wouldn't charge with the computer turned off. After uninstalling and reinstalling the battery management driver, it is charging while turned off (A quick google search identified the solution.)

- This is a great hybrid gaming and office computer. If you can afford the premium, it's definitly worth the price.




I have the new 4K Blade 15. You'll definitely hear the fans ramping up and down doing everyday tasks. I could just have a bade paste job, but I had the same issue on my launch blade 15 144hz, so doubtful. I find your battery life claim 100 percent inaccurate/false. I have the 4k Blade 15 and the 4k Aero 15X. Even after the version 1803 the max battery life you'll be getting is 4:30 hours unless you change A LOT of setting maybe 5:30 if you're lucky. The Aero easily gets 7-8 with its 97watt battery while my 15 blade 4K and others will struggle after the 4:30 hour mark. I don't know why you'd falsify the battery life estimate, but I do agree on your other points about the blade. It's a beautiful machine. I've already had to RMA my power adapter for it and still haven't gotten a replacement. That's on Razer and it's terrible customer support. Although it should've been rectified on a $3,000 laptop. I can see why youtube reviewers are bashing the CS when sending in an RMA. Here is my reddit review. The glossy 4K screen makes it difficult for outdoor use just FYI.https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/945oht/my_impressions_after_having_the_razer_blade_15_4k/



Synclide
hey thank you for your input, I was of the understanding that no one who pre-ordered the 4k version from any amazon had yet recieved their product. Knowing that the orders of amazon.ca customers are being fulfilled has given me some reassurance that it won't be too much longer that the uk amazon domain recieves and starts delivering blade 15 4k's to their clientele (hopefully in the next fortnite). That being said, I appreciate your in-depth review of your 4k unit and upon seeing many good points about it in your post I have decided to keep my pre-order in place as i think it's worth the money as you said. If you don't mind I have a few questions, I am glad you confirmed that the screen of the 4k version is very vibrant and detailed as It was one of the main reasons I wanted this laptop, so in your opinion does the 100% aRGB on this laptop make for a better visual experiance when watching videos/movies/anime/netflix etc than other sRGB laptops you have owned? Also, since I would like to game on this laptop aswell as doing productivity work, I was wondering if you could play a game like fortnite/leagueoflegends/pubg and let us know how the laptop does? does it run smoothly? im planning on lowering the screen res to 1080p on the in game settings anyway when in game, are refresh rates close to the claimed 60 fps when your gaming in 4k or 1080p?

Thank you!


I linked my reddit mini review on the next page. I think it answers most of your questions. The screen is not as color accurate as the XPS or Aero 4k. It's overly saturated and unfortunately can look strange with skin colors. Besides that it looks amazing for anime/movies/etc. It's definitely better than most panels out there, but not what I was expecting after seeing all the marketing promoting the 100 percent color accuracy/etc. I've done Fortnite/HOTS/Dark Souls 3. They all run like a charm and look phenomenal with 1080 scaling. Runs smoothly in 4k as well for the games I've listed. The temps are pretty high and that's the only other thing I can add
misterg36
I had to constantly check the UK Razer store. If it says "notify me" they are available (as far as I know).



I was checking every few hours, and one moment I just got lucky. Although Amazon UK have shipped a some (despite telling me they haven't)



So you may be in luck :)


That’s the problem there is no notify me button
misterg36
Well I gave up waiting for Amazon UK in the end. I called them and they told me they never had any 4k models in stock (clearly not true) and had no eta



I ordered direct from Razer as I was watching their store and saw one for sale.. So it looks like it should be this week and fingers crossed their support is as good as it has been so far (As I've only had a good experience with them)



The sensible part of me says I should have waited for Amazon, but my heart went with Razer direct :)


Don’t wait Amazon restocking on popular/limited items they’re super slow, last week I got delivery confirmation on Evga gpu...that I ordered last December, forgot canceling that;)
Hello



Been watching this thread since ordering my blade in early June.



Popped to say hi and that my razer blade 15 4k has been dispatched from Amazon.

Arriving today so totally ruined the weekend plans. Lol



Cheers

Chris
So I'll agree with that sentiment as well. I was REALLY holding out for the 4K, touchscreen Blade 15, because I'm a resolution junkie (I'll admit I do not really care about touchscreen on a standard, clamshell laptop). And then I stopped by the Microsoft store one day, checked out the FHD, 144 Hz display, and they had them in-stock, and I walked out with one. And now that I've been using my FHD Blade 15 for over a week (two, if you include the first one I had some issues with...namely one stuck pixel), I'm completely satisfied with the FHD display. I have a gigantic, LG 43UD79-B sitting on my desk right beside my Blade 15 (hooked up to my Corsair One with 1080Ti in it). It's 60 Hz, and while it's an awesome display, I have to admit, the 144 Hz display is buttery smooth. I always thought high refresh rate displays were only useful for competitive FPS gaming, but even in day to day life, I love this display. And as I'm getting older (50), I find that FHD works for me on a 15.6" display just fine, and I really don't need to worry about 4K, and any Windows 10 scaling issues.



The extra sharpness of 4K would be nice in some circumstances, but I'm not into content editing or photography, and I do like to play games in maxed out detail when travelling for work (my Blade 15 is my primary machine for work and play). If I really need 4K, I have the monitor right beside it, hooked up to a faster machine anyway. And on the road, FHD is perfect for me (wouldn't go any less, and about the most I would ever want is QHD+, but at 144Hz or better as well).



Maybe my next machine might be a QHD+ 165 Hz laptop display if they make one.....but so far, this one is awesome.



As a confirmed resolution junkie, unless you really need the 4K display for something you're doing, I'd say skip the waiting period, and go with the FHD 144 Hz option. It's a fantastic display.







Patrick
Synclide
yeah same story here pre-ordered with that 2 year insurance, i read into it and it covers accidental damage so things like dropping it and shattering the screen or water damage I imagaine, most likely never gonna let anything like that happen to my 2.5k laptop but good to know I'm covered XD. Yeah same thing here in terms of waiting too, pre-ordered it very late in june thinking it would release 1st week of july and here we are late august lol, been waiting for well over a month and a half. Its the first razer product I'm buying and from reading that they have customer service that could do with improvements, amazon is much safer. I also think that I've been waiting far too long now for it to come out on amazon to order it somewhere else now. The coming working week, i have my hopes up that it will arrive at my door. The wait has literally seemed like a lifetime XD




Hey Synclide



Where did you get the insurance? When I looked on Amazon there wasn't any.



Thanks

Chris
Synclide
hi thats great news! is this amazon uk? because for me it still shows up as available for preorder lol?




misterg36
Brilliant, 2 quick questions, like Synclide said is that Amazon UK?

and do you know when you ordered in June (I was on 16th so I just wondered if they are doing it in date order).?



Thanks again for letting us know.. it's been a long wait and it's great to see Amazon fuldilling orders :)




Yes UK. Came this morning. However I think it might have come earlier but I'd changed my card since ordering, but failed to update my order to my new card number - they first attempted to invoice me on Wednesday but it bounced on the old card number. When I called to update and ask why they didn't just use the card that I'd already updated and used on other orders they gave me £5 which was nice.



8th June order
I find it amazing that they're still not shipping 4k in Amazon and even on the razer store they're not regularly in stock.



What do you think is the limitation - screen, cpu, gpu stock issues?



Cheers
crypticc
I find it amazing that they're still not shipping 4k in Amazon and even on the razer store they're not regularly in stock.



What do you think is the limitation - screen, cpu, gpu stock issues?



Cheers


I'm pretty sure it's the 4k screen holding it back - though intel are having a cpu shortage at the moment so are probably prioritising Dell etc.



Mostly though I would guess at manufacturing. Razer had to guess how many 144hz screens and how many 4k ones would need to be built and my guess is they thought "gamers" would go for the 144hz every time.



Forgetting that most gamers buying Razer laptops probably plan to use an external monitor most of the time, so 4k gives better options when "just using it like a laptop" - and with 4k scaling 1080p perfectly gaming on the screen is fine.



So with such low volumes, Razer is only giving a few at a time to Amazon so they still haven't fulfilled their back orders so can't open the stock page (all other 3rd party sites seem to be the same).



Some people may not be as obsessive as us, checking all the different sites and knowing they are available.
PeachPuffpulsefocus099
People said that when the date showed June as well. Bad supply chain management is bad.


Look, the Blade 15 has a major component manufactured in Japan. The flooding in Japan has caused no Blade 15's to be produced, which means a huge backorder of 15's. Either way, bitching on the forums won't make it appear in your country any faster. It's still out of stock here in the US. Everyone can't get one, even the people returning faulty ones for a new one. My best guess? 3rd week of August while backorders in the US are fulfilled, and RMA's are sent out. Happy you know, now?
Any News on if the 4K will be avaliable in scandinavia (norway)
Jimbo2506
Could somebody please specify a specific release date for this year's 4K Blade 15 in the UK because i have been waiting for it and, although Razer said July on their website, the month is almost up and there is no sign of change or release. Pls reply if you know more than I do because it would be greatly appreciated, thanks.


Almost up, not fully up...

Be patient
Well I ordered from Razor on Friday, tracked it all the way from Hong Kong Friday to Oxford UK and it arrived a few mins ago 🙂
Synclide
hey thanks for the update! this is definiately strange from amazon's side not to update the blade 4k's status, so for you if you go on amazon and type in razer blade 15 4k does it still show 'available for preorder' written on it or is that just me? and did you get the standard amazon emails saying its been dispatched, it will arrive tommorow etc? whatever this is must have to do with pre-order date as mine was placed 30th june, much later than yours.



Questions aside, congrats on your new laptop!! i bet you must have loved to unbox it after waiting so long XD! do let us know how it peforms generally and whilst gaming if you get the chance, hopefully you are impressed as the vast majority of the people on the forum with regards to display, performance, build quality, feel etc!



once again congrats on your new laptop, enjoy!






misterg36
Brilliant, have fun with it



And thanks again for letting us know. I was starting to think Amazon was never going to get them in, but it looks like they have them and are fulfilling orders in a first come first serve - which is great.



Soooo many times I've been tempted to get the 144hz which still seems awesome but I'm glad I've waited as I need the 4k for coding :)




Hi both



After the teething issues with getting the right drivers installed, (see throttling thread although I didn't really have thermal throttlin), and fixing the charging when off (dedicated thread) it's been rock solid through about 10 runs each of firestrike, timespy. and cinebench GPU and CPU tests.



Relevant only to the 4k model I will say running the aboveabo 1080 mode makes a small improvement compared to 4k. But I also ran firestrike ultra 4k for shits and giggles and although it scored fair frame rates were clunky.

Also pcmark a few times although those results were a little on the low side and I was running on battery (although max perf). It's a long test and ran out of patience so reeun plugged in. Besides running on battery was more to test the battery. The full suite took from 90% to 72% with max perf, fans on auto. Not sure about the GPU oc because I think synapse overrode my afterburner seeing when I unplugged power.





I've posted some benchmarks on the throttling thread. I don't think I have thermal throttling but there is some power limit going on I think. Temperature wise the bbi everyone was complaining about, and that concerned me, was physics temperature. The top bit above the fn keys never got too hot to handle and not hotter than say the outside of a mug of hot chocolate trut a thick mug.



Pcmark as i said something else was going on, it was only marginally warmer than hand hot temperature when it'd finished.





Screen is even. No backlight bleed at corners or edges although l can see where I believe there's two horizontal bars ever so slightly dimmer at 30% and 60% heights horizontally across full screen. I guess this is either the shade for the led at that position or perhaps where less at 15, 50 and 75 aren't quite overlapping. Only visible at higher brightness settings and not visible except in flat colour test images. I'm comparing it to my LG oled TV of which I've got a good un and the slight zipper I have at the edge of that screen at 5-10 IRE is more pronounced. Comparing it to a LCD screen it is much better I think.



Keyboard is lovely and I'm just getting there with the right arrow.



Touchpad also excellent although finding two finger scrolling, and two finger right click less precise. I think it detects my thumb resting at bottom of the laptop while I'm using the first and second finger. I need to get used to moving thumb completely off the pad/ device and I think is because it's larger touchpad and extends lower than the older macair I had.



Overall. Happy. Although as my brother in law said, bloody should be at that price. 🙂
Late reply... Razer moved onto the 2019 models now, and I think the 4k will be oled. Not sure isI want an oled laptop.



I have an oled TV. They're amazing. But not sure I'm confident about static tool bars and stuff.
Synclide
hey, just a quick one because I'm wanting to get into basic coding softwares myself later this year, what makes the 4k version good for someone who wants to code?


It's just about "screen real estate" which just means more space



Although the physical screen size for a 1080p and 4k are identical, you can fit more information on a 4k screen (Exactly 4 times as much).



So if you take a simple spreadsheet, and on a 1080p screen you could see 26 columns and 30 rows at once - on a 4k screen you could see 92 columns and 120 rows which is a lot more information (albeit smaller in size).



So for coding, you can see twice as much script vertically at any one time (which is useful for long blocks of code).



If you use the unreal engine - other game engines are available - you can have a 1080p view port and still have half the screen left for coding and another 1080p worth of space for debugging (or email 🙂 ).
misterg36
I know. I even said that on the call. All they would say to me was "if it says it hasn't been released we have never had them - otherwise it would say out of stock"



I've seen them on the Razer site for the last 2 months - they pop up for sale for about 10 mins and then are out of stock again.



I just got off the call to Amazon, saw they had one in stock - ordered it and saw it go out of stock 2 mins later.



I think if they had just given me a real date I would have waited.



On a slightly different note I have to say I totally love it. If I stay off "gaming mode" the temperatures never get too high (something the other 6 laptops I sent back never managed).



I also saw 45fps in 4k with Destiny 2 (none gaming mode) - so am really happy you can choose full performance with heat, or usable performance with no heat issues.



And wow is it a beautiful laptop :)




Hi misterg , been a while, not sure why insider didn't notify me of the new comments made in this thread and I got occupied with work, so I've only just seen all the comments past our last 'why coding is better with 4k' talk. But that aside, I can completely understand the decision to order it from razer directly, this is now becoming a joke from amazon's side, I'm going to give them a serious phone call tomorrow morning, this will be like my 6th phone call about the release date since early august. I think it's crazy that the 4k has been in stock then out of stock on razer UK 2 times since early august now and amazon still haven't managed to satisfy all pre-order customers. Every one of those times I called, i'd get the same sort of reply ''on the system it shows up as not yet released, when it gets released you will be notifyed by email'' LOL. I might even ask directly for a manager. Bottom line is there's only so long I am willing to wait before buying it from amazon holds no benefit.That insurance covering accidental damage for 2 years is the main reason i haven't cancelled my order from them. What's the point of ''pre-ordering'' an item if you don't actually have it in your house sometime resonably close to when the manufacturer released it (early august for razer UK on the 4k model). That time window of being 'resonably close' has probably ran out for me at this stage, and theres only so much longer I'm willing to extend it for the sake of that 2 year accidental damage coverage (which I probably will never even use).



Digressing, Congrats on finally getting the 4k I know you've been waiting ages on it XD! 45 fps in 4k on destiny without gaming mode is fantastic, if it can run that good on 4k then I bet on 1080p or 1440p (settings I will use for gaming) it could easily get 60fps. By chance do you play fortnite? I was wondering if you could test out 1080p, 1440p and 4k on epic settings with shadows off and see what sort of fps you get? By the sounds of things this was definately worth the wait and the right choice over the 144hz for us 50/50 gamers/editors, the fps delivers and the additonal touch screen and 100% aRGB must make the media consumption pleasant to watch and amazing.