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another problem added to the mix

  • 28 November 2020
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razer is crap! got a bunch of razer products for my new gaming laptop and most of the have software or hardware problems. basilisk ultimate's USB dongle needs to be removed and re-inserted while the mouse is turned off, after every shutdown. also, after a few sec. of not moving the mouse, or watching a movie the mouse clicks are not responding. need to do CTRL ALT DEL for them to return... sometimes remove the dongle and re-insert... this time leaving the mouse ON.
also got 2x firefly v2 mouse pads and even though the computer recognizes both, you can adjust the colors of only one of them via the razer app. so basically one is always with the default wave while the other is programmable ... contacted razer but no response what so ever... also the mouse battery get to 0 very fast!!! my old microsoft or logitech were much better! and they are always on standby for whenever this shitty razer acts up.
it was a mistake wasting so much money on razer products!

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Did you've tried RVU dongle on another computer (or at least another port)? Does it behaves the same? Also does the dongle is connected to USB port directly? Or via USB Hub?

It's not possible to have different Chroma settings, when you have the 2 (or more) same mousepads or other peripherals (the same PID_VID combination on each).
Thanks for the post.
tried on another computer, proper PC... same issues.
tried directly to the PC and via HUB.
Never had any issue with other wireless mice.
It drives me crazy that I always need to make sure my mouse is turned off when I turn on my laptop, then plug out the dongle, re-insert it, turn the mouse back ON. and then I can start using the mouse... til I leave my PC for a while or watch sometime full-screen.
I tried making the low battery mode in the application longer, didnt help. I completely turned off the lighting effects to extend the battery life.
dunno, first time i bought razer products and its a shame this is what I got.
isnt it supposed to be for gamers? in a middle of a game to have the mouse not clicking or completely dying ...
my logitech mouse with batteries lasts several months. and zero problems, not to mention everything works with only 1 dongle.
Only the keyboard and gamepads are working well, since they are wired. unless there are problems with the application. which happens quite often. lighting setup disappears or app. doesnt wanna run after a software update.

isn't there a fix to control both via the application or change manually the PID?
I should have bought the long version instead of getting 2.

I never had to go through hoops with non-gaming (much cheaper) devices.\\

btw I just noticed that mouse button 5 isnt working.

what a mess!


edit:
does the mouse stops clicking til I do ctrl-alt-del relates to the new software update?
16464->16485
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What firmware do you have on RVU?
Maybe it's time to upgrade it: https://dl.razerzone.com/drivers/ViperUltimate/win/Razer%20Viper%20Ultimate%20Firmware%20Updater%20Version1.03.02.r1.pdf
Thanks for the update and quick reply. I'll be sure to keep an eye on this thread. Looking for the same issue. Bumped into your thread. Thanks for creating it. Looking forward for solution.
lol.. it was a basilisk ultimate.. found the proper page for it:
https://mysupport.razer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3721/
my device ver. is 1.02.00
will be updating to 1.03.00
lets see if it fixes it..

also found these threads:
https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/eyd20p/should_it_take_three_attempts_to_charge_the_razer/

https://www.reddit.com/r/razer/comments/evj621/connection_issue_with_basilisk_ultimate_and/
Update:
upgraded the firmware and still...
* button 5 is not responding.
* after a while or while in lock screen, isn't clicking.
* after turning on the computer I still need to unplug the dongle turn off the mouse and plug in, and turn on the mouse.
* haven't checked the battery, lighting still turned off and I put the mouse on the charging dock whenever possible.

My old and cheap logitech ran for months on AAA/AA without issues... and everything worked with only 1 dongle.
I'm about to give up on my entire razer setup 😞
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One more thing - go to Windows device manager, find your mouse & dongle and uncheck option for power saving (Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power).


With mousebutton 5 - check if it's properly bound in Synapse, or just create a new profile setting.
Allow the computer to turn off this device -> is grayed out, you can't check or uncheck it.
Allow this device to wake the computer -> is checked.
Driver is: 10.0.15063.0 (18-Feb-20)

The problems remain even after the firmware update.

edit:
tried to create another profile but button 5 still doesnt work, and neither does the clutch ...
no matter what I assign to them they dont respond.

edit 2:
still same problems
beside being annoying the fact that the mouse stops registering clicks at some point is F^#% up.
tried to google 'mouse doesn't click until ctrl-alt-del' but ... so far no luck:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/640351/after-a-while-mouse-clicks-fail-and-only-ctrl-alt-del-restores-mouse-functions/
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/678333/mouse-stops-working-ctrl-alt-del-and-cancel-enables-it-to-function/
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/675621/mouse-randomly-not-working-but-not-a-hardware-issue-cant-reinstall-windows/
https://www.wintips.org/fix-mouse-moves-but-cannot-click-solved/
https://superuser.com/questions/446235/why-am-i-sometimes-unable-to-use-the-taskbar-until-i-press-ctrlaltdel
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/Azure/en-US/9c40c164-170b-4615-a480-cf339042e8dd/mouse-not-clicking-until-task-manager-is-opened?forum=w7itprogeneral

Ive used this app to verify that button 5 and the clutch are not responding:
X-Mouse Button Control 2.19.2
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/x_mouse_button_control.html
also, the wheel tilt left and right register as wheel up and down..
is this a software issue? driver update broke it ?

my tartarus pro and blackwidow te work fine (sorta, apart from software kinks), its just this damn mouse!
and that you cant control 2 firefly simultaneously. (should have gotten the extended mat)
Also found this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/evt802/question_is_there_are_way_to_disable_razers_sleep/

There is a power management tab, but it only lets you choose 1-15 minutes, and there is no option to disable it. There should be the ability to turn it off in synapse, but razer seems to have dropped the ball...

and this:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings-winpc/razer-synapse-software-prevents-windows-10-from/4b6ca438-eeed-47d9-a608-51c25e8b062a
no solution then ?
guess I need to return this piece of S^%$
update:
no solution here and no reply from razer so I've returned my first gaming mouse which was the most expensive (180$) mouse i ever used... and instead im using a 1$ mouse instead without problems! (not the same quality but, you get what you pay for, which wasnt the case with my razer basilisk ULTIMATE).