I present to you Firebat's Blade 15! (144hz/i7-8750H)
Hey everyone i'm happy to announce I received my Blade today! I will do my best to answer questions about it. Hopefully this thread gets some traction so we can use is as an information thread/comparison thread. Post pictures when you get your Blade etc. Let the games begin!
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TukuiTukzI have purchased some thermal pads to help with temperatures and am looking into thermal pasting but am completely inexperienced in this area. Any resources you could recommend to help me learn how to do something like this right?
Got my rma replacement monday last week, however I wasn't able to test it out until today because I was out of the country. I ran a firestrike after updating everything, and my blade was just a little bit better on thermal than my previous one that got rma'd. Decided to go with a full thermal repaste of both gpu/cpu. I don't want to deal with another RMA. Result are a lot better now. Approx 20C less on CPU and 10C less on GPU.No undervolt, Blade with stock settings. Just pushed the game mode in synapse after updating the laptop after initial setup. I will run more test tomorrow but here a comparaison with a 3dmark firestrike test: Not a fan of paying a high premium price on a laptop and having to repaste it out of the box. This job should be done correctly at the factory. Hope Razer will fix this someday, this issue exist since their first blade. At least, I love it now.
kirby3021No ressource unfortunately. The blade 15 is really easy to upgrade. You just need to be really careful with the ribbon cables after you remove the back enclosure. There is 2 ribbons cables, just unplug the bigger one, you don't need to unplug the smaller one. There small socket lever on the large ribbon cable, don't forget to lift it carefully. Removing the vapor is really simple, there is 3 screws (top left, top right, bottom middle-left, see red dot on pictures) Remove those 3, remove 4 cpu screws, and remove 4 gpu screws. Pull out. That's it. After removing the vapor, you should have exactly what you see on the picture.
I have purchased some thermal pads to help with temperatures and am looking into thermal pasting but am completely inexperienced in this area. Any resources you could recommend to help me learn how to do something like this right?
Why manufacturers made us opening the system, isn’t that bad for them...Never opening my Blade I did that only on my Razer Edge it was also after years usage out of warranty time upgrading internal ssd ram cleaning etc, but not on 2 weeks Products. Razer make a decent thermal paste job please or it’ll come high RMA rate...including me if through undervolting and other software tweak it still stays high I’ll probably send it back:/ Because I’ve also policy on my laptop purchase, that keeps it always runs long.
TukuiTukzThanks a ton, that helps a lot! What thermal paste would you recommend?
No ressource unfortunately. The blade 15 is really easy to upgrade. You just need to be really careful with the ribbon cables after you remove the back enclosure. There is 2 ribbons cables, just unplug the bigger one, you don't need to unplug the smaller one. There small socket lever on the large ribbon cable, don't forget to lift it carefully. Removing the vapor is really simple, there is 3 screws (top left, top right, bottom middle-left, see red dot on pictures) Remove those 3, remove 4 cpu screws, and remove 4 gpu screws. Pull out. That's it. After removing the vapor, you should have exactly what you see on the picture.
TimDoggMostly HWINFO64 but @TukuiTukz showed above temperature graph from 3Dmark.
what program do you guys use to monitor temperatures?
TukuiTukzInteresting ... too bad they can't do a decent job before shipping the units. What thermal paste did you use?
Got my rma replacement monday last week, however I wasn't able to test it out until today because I was out of the country. I ran a firestrike after updating everything, and my blade was just a little bit better on thermal than my previous one that got rma'd. Decided to go with a full thermal repaste of both gpu/cpu. I don't want to deal with another RMA. Result are a lot better now. Approx 20C less on CPU and 10C less on GPU.No undervolt, Blade with stock settings. Just pushed the game mode in synapse after updating the laptop after initial setup. I will run more test tomorrow but here a comparaison with a 3dmark firestrike test: Not a fan of paying a high premium price on a laptop and having to repaste it out of the box. This job should be done correctly at the factory. Hope Razer will fix this someday, this issue exist since their first blade. At least, I love it now.
Firebat246Firebat, nice to see you on here mate. What non-default settings did you run to get that 17k gfx score? I hit c.16k using Synapse gaming profile, but no other mods.
New Blade has some good scores. I am pleased so far. Edit: Even better score updated https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/26873054?
TubernatorShoot, I just put my ear to the power supply and I also noticed mine is buzzing (sort of inconsistently too). Should I raise this with Microsoft store or call Razer directly...?
Great score! best I got was 14630. I had to RMA myself due to faulty power supply (buzzing, and inconsistent power). So of course, had to RMA everything. Support was great btw, hope to have the new RB15 early next week.
mrvortepI have messed with OCing my gpu up to 200/600... I don't remember what exact settings were tuned for that run. I will say that at a certain point in OCing the GPU you stop seeing gains. Make sure to run windows power settings on balanced not max performance.
Firebat, nice to see you on here mate. What non-default settings did you run to get that 17k gfx score? I hit c.16k using Synapse gaming profile, but no other mods.
BadgertistaSome ARCTIC MX-4 that I had already at home. It's not conductive and seem to do the job. I don't want to deal with liquid metal, it's conductive and risky in my opinion.
Interesting ... too bad they can't do a decent job before shipping the units. What thermal paste did you use?
Here are some comparisons before and after the paste and thermal pad job. I have been meaning to post for you guys. First 2 are stock paste/pads. These are 30 min Farcry 5 runs with a -.140 to the core and 190/200 on GPU.
Firebat246Just my curiosity, 190/200 is overclocking value core and memory like on afterburner right? Is it always should be like that or can you run with no OC both on memory and clock (0/0)? I think for some demanding games, OC could crash the game.
Here are some comparisons before and after the paste and thermal pad job. I have been meaning to post for you guys. First 2 are stock paste/pads. These are 30 min Farcry 5 runs with a -.140 to the core and 190/200 on GPU.
JoikansaiCorrect done through afterburner and it does not always have to be like that. You can run totally stock if you wish. Note that putting synapse on gaming mode will auto OC it to 100/300.
Just my curiosity, 190/200 is overclocking value core and memory like on afterburner right? Is it always should be like that or can you run with no OC both on memory and clock (0/0)? I think for some demanding games, OC could crash the game.
TimDoggWhat games, AC Origins & FFXV & PUBG?
Im hitting around 100-103C on my CPU when running games. :slightly_sad: am i damaging my processor?
JoikansaiI'm maxing out everything, Anti-alisaing , etc,etc literally everything on ultra or extreme on Diablo 3, Battlefield 4, Starcraft 2, ARMA 3, DOTA EDIT: Any advice? I want to play on the highest settings possible but i also don't want to harm my brand new razer blade
What games, AC Origins & FFXV & PUBG?
TimDoggHmm, those games... Did you try limiting Turbo boost by setting processors state to 99% on power option advance setting? You did also undervolting right? This CPU seems running hot, intersting...can't wait to get mine...yes I think you're hurting the CPU on that temp, i was also limiting performance on my blade 14 for better temperature, I understand though with 144 panel anyone wants Max experience. Did you get extended warranty btw?
I'm maxing out everything, Anti-alisaing , etc,etc literally everything on ultra or extreme on Diablo 3, Battlefield 4, Starcraft 2, ARMA 3, DOTA EDIT: Any advice? I want to play on the highest settings possible but i also don't want to harm my brand new razer blade
Joikansaiextended warranty wasnt offered. where is advance power options? damn playing D3 right now and again hit 103 C after lower settings need to lower more
Hmm, those games... Did you try limiting Turbo boost by setting processors state to 99% on power option advance setting? You did also undervolting right? This CPU seems running hot, intersting...can't wait to get mine...yes I think you're hurting the CPU on that temp, i was also limiting performance on my blade 14 for better temperature, I understand though with 144 panel anyone wants Max experience. Did you get extended warranty btw?
TimDoggLowering setting doesn’t lowering performance, it’ll only increasing FPS and could make temperature higher as my understanding. Right click the battery, power option, change plan setting, change advance power setting, on processor power management, max processors state to 99%.
extended warranty wasnt offered. where is advance power options? damn playing D3 right now and again hit 103 C after lower settings need to lower more
Joikansaithanks set from 100% to 99% hopefully this helps a bit. Well i lowered anti-aliasing 2 levels, Physics from high to low, and clutter density a level down, and MAX FPS from 200 to 144 on D3. hopefully this helps. just experimenting here and there, before i wasnt using a temp software so ive prob been hitting these temperatures for a week now.
Lowering setting doesn’t lowering performance, it’ll only increasing FPS and could make temperature higher as my understanding. Right click the battery, power option, change plan setting, change advance power setting, on processor power management, max processors state to 99%.
TimDoggThis is still new laptops, poeple search only a bad side, there’s still a lot area to discover imo... Damn I’m still facing payment issues and rised the ticket...why don’t they offer PayPal anymore it’s faster...well for me at least. For this beast I wouldn’t recommend a year guarantee though, if you still have thermal issue send it back and try to get at least 2 years, never used it since I got always “well behavior one“, but bad system will start showing problems after first year gaming usage, so if you only have a year, out of Guarantee repair costs will be expensive, just like a new car, you wont buy also for a year guarantee do you?
thanks set from 100% to 99% hopefully this helps a bit. Well i lowered anti-aliasing 2 levels, Physics from high to low, and clutter density a level down, and MAX FPS from 200 to 144 on D3. hopefully this helps. just experimenting here and there, before i wasnt using a temp software so ive prob been hitting these temperatures for a week now.
TimDoggI'll test diablo 3 later tonight and see what temps I'm getting.
extended warranty wasnt offered. where is advance power options? damn playing D3 right now and again hit 103 C after lower settings need to lower more
JoikansaiHmm so I should send it in for thermal repairs?] edit: its hitting max temps at 95 -97 on all cores on the loading menu for BF4 on ultra, Moving down the specs to High I ran speed fan and HWINFO side by side and its giving me different temps. Which do you guys think is more accurate?
This is still new laptops, poeple search only a bad side, there’s still a lot area to discover imo... Damn I’m still facing payment issues and rised the ticket...why don’t they offer PayPal anymore it’s faster...well for me at least. For this beast I wouldn’t recommend a year guarantee though, if you still have thermal issue send it back and try to get at least 2 years, never used it since I got always “well behavior one“, but bad system will start showing problems after first year gaming usage, so if you only have a year, out of Guarantee repair costs will be expensive, just like a new car, you wont buy also for a year guarantee do you?
TimDogg
Hmm so I should send it in for thermal repairs?] edit: its hitting max temps at 95 -97 on all cores on the loading menu for BF4 on ultra, Moving down the specs to High
TimDoggInteresting thermals difference from those two softwares, I saw poeple mostly look at HWInfo 64, so check other thermal software like this to see the accuracy. https://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ First I would like to rise ticket and see what support said about this. Honestly BF4 hitting over 95 isn't good for future proof of the Blade, that's why I recommend extended warranty at least 2 years. Did you also undervolt it?
I ran speed fan and HWINFO side by side and its giving me different temps. Which do you guys think is more accurate?
I have a feeling the high temps are an issue on ALL new laptops at the moment. I don't know if HWinfo has got more accurate, or Intel are boosting something to stop the SPECTR/Meltdown fixes killing speed.
I have now bought, and returned due to very high temps (97-104c):
- Alienware 17R4 (1080) - was hitting 97c+
- Alienware 15R3 (1070) - worst of the lot at > 100c
- Acer Predator (1080) - mid 90c but had a total power failure 1 week in
- ASUS Zephyrus (1080) - 97c after 2 mins of gaming in an aircond room (was v disapointed)
- MSI GT75 Titan 8RG - 97c on core 2 93c on the rest
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