ok i know Razer didn't license the Apt-x codec.
I am awaiting delivery of a set of Wearbuds which are BT5 Apt-X HD enabled wireless earbuds.
I was wondering.......would the app for apt-x enabled bluetooth earbuds supply the codec to the device or would it just default to that crappy SBC?
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Ringowu1234
Chill out man.
This company and their product are not perfect, we all know it.
I get it you have issues with your ex-phone. It is frustrating when the thing you buy stops working.
But your title says APT-X on Razer Phone 2. And I'm here giving tips on how to get it to work. When other members joins this thread hoping to find solution, they will find my post which tells them how to get the function they want. Instead of walls of texts complaining stuff other than APT-X.
Now onto rooting. Your info is half correct. Yes, If you return your phone back to Razer with root, or more precisely, with bootloader unlocked (prerequisite of rooting), the warranty is void. However what it fails to tell you is that with RP2, you can always unroot and relock bootloader. Your warranty will be valid again provided that you haven't break any hardware when messing with system settings with root privileges.
Without root, there's not much you can do to damage hardwares, hence why I say bootloop is usually software related. In these situations, you most likely can correct this with methods similar to rooting, by flashing stock ROM (which requires bootloader unlock, as suggested by Razer official support)
Anyways, I hope you're happy with your new phones. But honestly soon you'll just find yourself in same situation as you're in now, as no android phone is perfect. It's good to have some knowledge on some DIY troubleshooting skills, it will save you a lot of time and energy to argue with customer support. Otherwise, an iPhone and their impeccable service probably suit you better.
LOL what a collection of amateur passive aggressive, from the opening line to the finishing line....that's kinda hilarious!
I've worked as a certified IT service engineer for 30 years and have always found if hilarious when amateurs have a wee rage!
I am chuckling. cheers for that!
Userlevel 7
Let's be civil about this guys okay?
Yes I know APT-X is missing and yes I know it really sucks, it's on the list of things I keep bringing up (although it's not at the top) I am fighting for you all but please keep it civil.
Yes I know APT-X is missing and yes I know it really sucks, it's on the list of things I keep bringing up (although it's not at the top) I am fighting for you all but please keep it civil.
Userlevel 2
Chill out man.
This company and their product are not perfect, we all know it.
I get it you have issues with your ex-phone. It is frustrating when the thing you buy stops working.
But your title says APT-X on Razer Phone 2. And I'm here giving tips on how to get it to work. When other members joins this thread hoping to find solution, they will find my post which tells them how to get the function they want. Instead of walls of texts complaining stuff other than APT-X.
Now onto rooting. Your info is half correct. Yes, If you return your phone back to Razer with root, or more precisely, with bootloader unlocked (prerequisite of rooting), the warranty is void. However what it fails to tell you is that with RP2, you can always unroot and relock bootloader. Your warranty will be valid again provided that you haven't break any hardware when messing with system settings with root privileges.
Without root, there's not much you can do to damage hardwares, hence why I say bootloop is usually software related. In these situations, you most likely can correct this with methods similar to rooting, by flashing stock ROM (which requires bootloader unlock, as suggested by Razer official support)
Anyways, I hope you're happy with your new phones. But honestly soon you'll just find yourself in same situation as you're in now, as no android phone is perfect. It's good to have some knowledge on some DIY troubleshooting skills, it will save you a lot of time and energy to argue with customer support. Otherwise, an iPhone and their impeccable service probably suit you better.
This company and their product are not perfect, we all know it.
I get it you have issues with your ex-phone. It is frustrating when the thing you buy stops working.
But your title says APT-X on Razer Phone 2. And I'm here giving tips on how to get it to work. When other members joins this thread hoping to find solution, they will find my post which tells them how to get the function they want. Instead of walls of texts complaining stuff other than APT-X.
Now onto rooting. Your info is half correct. Yes, If you return your phone back to Razer with root, or more precisely, with bootloader unlocked (prerequisite of rooting), the warranty is void. However what it fails to tell you is that with RP2, you can always unroot and relock bootloader. Your warranty will be valid again provided that you haven't break any hardware when messing with system settings with root privileges.
Without root, there's not much you can do to damage hardwares, hence why I say bootloop is usually software related. In these situations, you most likely can correct this with methods similar to rooting, by flashing stock ROM (which requires bootloader unlock, as suggested by Razer official support)
Anyways, I hope you're happy with your new phones. But honestly soon you'll just find yourself in same situation as you're in now, as no android phone is perfect. It's good to have some knowledge on some DIY troubleshooting skills, it will save you a lot of time and energy to argue with customer support. Otherwise, an iPhone and their impeccable service probably suit you better.
hmmm seems there's evidence to the contrary that rooting does indeed void your warranty
"Yes, rooting would void any device's warranty. And since people have been giving impression about how smooth the OS is, I don't see why u need to tweak anymore.
It's 2017, I just can't find the reason to root or flash (incomplete/in development) custom rom anymore, since OEM(?) roms are so much better now.
If bloatware is really annoying, then you can risk installing custom rom from complete strangers on your phone and be happy with that."
/rooting-the-razer-phone.28381/
I am enjoying my playing around with a Xiaomi Mi mix phone with 5g no less and apt-x which will do until the black shark 3 is released and I'll be on it like a rash.
all this while Razer support and devices are still crap and you are , as always, conceited and wrong about voiding the warranty with root. what's really funny, i work in IT building bespoke systems and a boot loop can indeed be hardware related. The replacement Razer device was sold on ebay.. good riddance
also there's shouldn't be a need to go to the length of rooting a phone and installing a small slew of software just to augment what the manufacturer was too tight fisted to shell out pennies for.
"Yes, rooting would void any device's warranty. And since people have been giving impression about how smooth the OS is, I don't see why u need to tweak anymore.
It's 2017, I just can't find the reason to root or flash (incomplete/in development) custom rom anymore, since OEM(?) roms are so much better now.
If bloatware is really annoying, then you can risk installing custom rom from complete strangers on your phone and be happy with that."
/rooting-the-razer-phone.28381/
I am enjoying my playing around with a Xiaomi Mi mix phone with 5g no less and apt-x which will do until the black shark 3 is released and I'll be on it like a rash.
all this while Razer support and devices are still crap and you are , as always, conceited and wrong about voiding the warranty with root. what's really funny, i work in IT building bespoke systems and a boot loop can indeed be hardware related. The replacement Razer device was sold on ebay.. good riddance
also there's shouldn't be a need to go to the length of rooting a phone and installing a small slew of software just to augment what the manufacturer was too tight fisted to shell out pennies for.
Userlevel 2
Rooting your phone does not void the warranty, as it is fully reversable.
I've never had SIM deregistering and SD card issues.
Reboot loop is usually software issue, and knowing how to root helps with fixing it without any help from support.
While you're here complaining about razer support, I'm enjoying APTX HD with my RP2. Just saying.
I've never had SIM deregistering and SD card issues.
Reboot loop is usually software issue, and knowing how to root helps with fixing it without any help from support.
While you're here complaining about razer support, I'm enjoying APTX HD with my RP2. Just saying.
Why would I root a phone and ruin the warranty for something that should be included. Did you actually read the thread? Read what was said?
rooting was mentioned and ruled out...
would rooting fix the awful support?
would rooting fic the hardware issue BOTH the RP1 and RP2 share? ( SIM deregistering then SD card reader issues followed by a slow decline into a terminal reboot loop????)
would rooting fix ANY of that?
didn't think so
rooting was mentioned and ruled out...
would rooting fix the awful support?
would rooting fic the hardware issue BOTH the RP1 and RP2 share? ( SIM deregistering then SD card reader issues followed by a slow decline into a terminal reboot loop????)
would rooting fix ANY of that?
didn't think so
Userlevel 2
Root and you can get APTX. There's almost 0 update anyways so you don't lose much with Root, except lower quality Netflix.
yeah man, it's pretty grim
That sucks! It just confirm that Razer does not give a poop about their phone. I will not support any Razer new product as the chance of them abandoning is rather high. Same policy as Google, wait three years if the product is still supported yeah there a good chance it would be supported.
I am currently waiting on Google Stadia if it's still around in 2022 with plenty of games. I would buy one. LOL!
I am currently waiting on Google Stadia if it's still around in 2022 with plenty of games. I would buy one. LOL!
As I said Razer DID have Apt-X on the RP1.
they removed it and deliberately crippled it in developer options on the RP2 on a firmware level.
I have google the hell out it and the only way to enable Apt-x is rooting and messing around a LOT.
they removed it and deliberately crippled it in developer options on the RP2 on a firmware level.
I have google the hell out it and the only way to enable Apt-x is rooting and messing around a LOT.
https://www.aptx.com/product-listing?brand=260
Razer did have aptx tech in their product. Just not on their phone. Besides, any phone that has a Qualcomm 845 SOC can add Aptx standard that already belongs to Qualcomm.
https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-845-specs-820561/
Maybe the Razer phone team got fired before they could add that feature. Razer 2 phone is good enough gaming phone now as the game boost still does its job. I just wish they would add Aptx audio and it would be a complete gaming phone. Anyway, my next phone would be ROG if razer decided to surrender to the competition.
https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-aptx-bluetooth-codec-explained-787716/
Razer did have aptx tech in their product. Just not on their phone. Besides, any phone that has a Qualcomm 845 SOC can add Aptx standard that already belongs to Qualcomm.
https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-845-specs-820561/
Maybe the Razer phone team got fired before they could add that feature. Razer 2 phone is good enough gaming phone now as the game boost still does its job. I just wish they would add Aptx audio and it would be a complete gaming phone. Anyway, my next phone would be ROG if razer decided to surrender to the competition.
https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-aptx-bluetooth-codec-explained-787716/
well the RP2 was replaced with another RP2 as indeed it had the same same as the RP1!!! imagine that!
meanwhile rather than be left without a phone for the OVER 2 WEEKS time it took to replace the RP2. My phone company Three UK said that due to the mess my experience with Razer phones was they would waive any early upgrade fees and offer me a new phone.
So i now use a Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G.
https://www.mi.com/uk/mix-3-5g/
it's a tasty phone indeed and my Wearbuds sounds REALLY REALLY good unlike the crappy cheapop codecs on the RP2.
My experience with Razer has been TRULY poopy.
From the Terratec Razer Boomslang with poopy switches(yeah a ball mouse!..lol) to the nicely designed BUT crappy rubber dome keyboards to mechanical keyboards... to the fairly decent Lachesis but still poopy switches(optical version of the boomslang really) and both their phones just plain poop with the EXACT SAME fault apparent in BOTH phones.
mostly it's just , as i said before, a case of them being sorta like the apple of the pc peripherals world... the stuff might look pretty but under the hood there are problems ALWAYS.
So now Three have given me a great deal to make up for Razer and it's poopiness i am never gonna sully my pocket or desktop with a Razer product again and there's NO F***ING chance I'll be recommending ANY Razer SKU's to my customers. I build bespoke HEDT systems. Our machines are very well know for quality,reliability and performance,something Razer certainly misses the mark on. No Razer No More!
You can register here and ask a question in the support section..... do you get a reply from Razer?.. nope
You can submit a ticket .. does Razer respond??? Nope you have to call after 3 days to prompt them into action
It's meant to be a 7 day turnaround for warranty replacements has that EVER happened with Razer in my experience from the ball mouse to now? NEVER
Not long after I said here that Razer were indeed the apple of the PC peripheral market with them being into more into looks than actual functioning quality products Louis Rossman of Rossman Repair Group actually said the very same in a video when asked about Razer. He repairs things on a component level unlike apple who will just try to turn your malfunction into a sale for a new machine. He is highly critical of Apple for their bullpoop and is equally dismissive of Razer. I felt better about things after seeing that. Louis is a bit of a legend in the repair scene much like Jessa Jones of ipad rehab.
As they say here in Scotland .... Razer "you have pissed your chips!"
meanwhile rather than be left without a phone for the OVER 2 WEEKS time it took to replace the RP2. My phone company Three UK said that due to the mess my experience with Razer phones was they would waive any early upgrade fees and offer me a new phone.
So i now use a Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5G.
https://www.mi.com/uk/mix-3-5g/
it's a tasty phone indeed and my Wearbuds sounds REALLY REALLY good unlike the crappy cheapop codecs on the RP2.
My experience with Razer has been TRULY poopy.
From the Terratec Razer Boomslang with poopy switches(yeah a ball mouse!..lol) to the nicely designed BUT crappy rubber dome keyboards to mechanical keyboards... to the fairly decent Lachesis but still poopy switches(optical version of the boomslang really) and both their phones just plain poop with the EXACT SAME fault apparent in BOTH phones.
mostly it's just , as i said before, a case of them being sorta like the apple of the pc peripherals world... the stuff might look pretty but under the hood there are problems ALWAYS.
So now Three have given me a great deal to make up for Razer and it's poopiness i am never gonna sully my pocket or desktop with a Razer product again and there's NO F***ING chance I'll be recommending ANY Razer SKU's to my customers. I build bespoke HEDT systems. Our machines are very well know for quality,reliability and performance,something Razer certainly misses the mark on. No Razer No More!
You can register here and ask a question in the support section..... do you get a reply from Razer?.. nope
You can submit a ticket .. does Razer respond??? Nope you have to call after 3 days to prompt them into action
It's meant to be a 7 day turnaround for warranty replacements has that EVER happened with Razer in my experience from the ball mouse to now? NEVER
Not long after I said here that Razer were indeed the apple of the PC peripheral market with them being into more into looks than actual functioning quality products Louis Rossman of Rossman Repair Group actually said the very same in a video when asked about Razer. He repairs things on a component level unlike apple who will just try to turn your malfunction into a sale for a new machine. He is highly critical of Apple for their bullpoop and is equally dismissive of Razer. I felt better about things after seeing that. Louis is a bit of a legend in the repair scene much like Jessa Jones of ipad rehab.
As they say here in Scotland .... Razer "you have pissed your chips!"
Mr_Mooncatt
You guys should count your blessings. Asus just released their ROG Phone 2 in the U.S. with no VoLTE abilities and no intention of adding it. So in a couple years, their phone won't even be able to make a basic phone call.
count my blessing? this is now suffering the same symptoms as my RP1 in that initially it says to remount the SD card and now giving the SIM not registered for service notification.
how can this be possible? is this a common fault?
Mr_Mooncatt
You guys should count your blessings. Asus just released their ROG Phone 2 in the U.S. with no VoLTE abilities and no intention of adding it. So in a couple years, their phone won't even be able to make a basic phone call.
that's got nothing to do with anything at all.
This is about the RP2, it's failings, shortcomings and utter lack of support for it on these, the razer support forums!
Oddly, as a matter of interest.. my RP" is now showing the same SD card problem symptoms my RP1 had before it died on it's rear end.
The RP2 was a replacement for that RP1 which was promised to be with me whilst on my holiday in Malta.... of course it was late and was sent to Scotland instead 12 days laters than it was meant to be delivered.
But.. that same odd SD card behaviour is becoming apparent. So in a month or so it'll die on it's frazzled silicon rear end and it won't even start , never mind make calls Mr Mooncat.
I wonder if Razer even read this part of the forum or really generally restrict themselves to announcements and sales blurbs?
You guys should count your blessings. Asus just released their ROG Phone 2 in the U.S. with no VoLTE abilities and no intention of adding it. So in a couple years, their phone won't even be able to make a basic phone call.
BAT-Templar
if you look at the posts here bud you'll see that's it's very well noted you need to license it and that they hadn't.
AptX is pretty much standard in phones these days and the cost per unit would be negligible in the greater cost of the phones.
Their headsets have it but their phones don't.. kinda mental
Agree 100% Such a small thing that can add so much value
godashram
APT-x requires licensing... guess they wasted the audio budget on Dolby Atmos and figured that was good enough.
if you look at the posts here bud you'll see that's it's very well noted you need to license it and that they hadn't.
AptX is pretty much standard in phones these days and the cost per unit would be negligible in the greater cost of the phones.
Their headsets have it but their phones don't.. kinda mental
BAT-Templar
even this crappy little honor uber budget phone has aptx!
https://www.gsmarena.com/honor_view_20-9468.php
if they can manage it on that cheapo phone then why not razer???
maybe there's a reason the RP2 is now selling at rock bottom prices....
APT-x requires licensing... guess they wasted the audio budget on Dolby Atmos and figured that was good enough.
even this crappy little honor uber budget phone has aptx!
https://www.gsmarena.com/honor_view_20-9468.php
if they can manage it on that cheapo phone then why not razer???
maybe there's a reason the RP2 is now selling at rock bottom prices....
https://www.gsmarena.com/honor_view_20-9468.php
if they can manage it on that cheapo phone then why not razer???
maybe there's a reason the RP2 is now selling at rock bottom prices....
I am fairly certain that i will be looking to the likes of OnePlus for my next phone where i know i can get the codecs and high end features for a good price and with good support
I completely understand your frustrations and am glad users like you are informing the community about issues like this. I bought the Razer Phone 2 because it looked solidly built, had good specs, and was reasonably priced at $300 on Black Friday. However, I like my stuff to work well with everything it's intended to work with. Handicapping your hardware to restrict interoperability and performance is not cool in my book. If this isn't some sort of a huge accidental miss by Razer (but seeing how indie developers say these protocols are disabled in the firmware, it seems purposely), it is sickening and has cost them my business. One reason I bought unlocked through Amazon was so I could return it if I wasn't satisfied.
BeeDubz
I honestly can't understand why Razer would do such a thing other than to force compatibility with its own peripherals. And handicapping audio playback is just about the straw that broke the camel's back for me. This whole scenario gives me a negative impression of the Razer brand. I might use the phone a few more days, but my gut says to pack it up and send it back.
I get you bud. i find it astonishing to be honest. It seems it could ONLY be a penny pinching exercise that made them think it was just fine and dandy to hobble the audio. What makes it insane is that their hammerhead v1 bluetooth headset has apt-x so can't be heard at their best on their own flagship phone.
I just can't understand for the life of me, who in the world does that MENTAL doo doo EVER???
I know I keep banging on about it but that's because it's absolutely beyond a stupid idea and what makes it worse is that they forum support either doesn't exist.. well except when they are getting product praise/fanboyism.
but ask a simple question like this... it's a darn ghost town mate.
compare that to the likes of Mionix andKlim whose support if beyond stellar. helpful, informative and if they don't have the answer they will strive to get one for you . Both have stunning warranty support and genuinely nice people working for them that actually care ...
unlike razer..
It just struck me how much like the Cupertino Pretentious Fruit Enterprise are becoming, like you say "forcing compatibility" of it's own peripherals as it seems to be with the HID stuff but at least the Fruity mob give you decent audio codecs for their premium price.... Razer seem to be on a route where design over functionality happily promoted as a good thing as long as it's shiny shiny with the RGB's!
Even if you get you phone via contract instead of buying up from, you are still paying a hefty wedger of cash for these phones. They are meant to be flagship, premium devices....... meant to be.
the more i think about this the more I get bewildered by wtf were these people actually thinking and wtf ARE they thinking in just ignoring requests for help/info on their own support forums??? The world's portal onto how they deal with people.. or don't in this case...
I honestly can't understand why Razer would do such a thing other than to force compatibility with its own peripherals. And handicapping audio playback is just about the straw that broke the camel's back for me. This whole scenario gives me a negative impression of the Razer brand. I might use the phone a few more days, but my gut says to pack it up and send it back.
Pinkshot
I wonder any Razer staff is here in this forum. That's the worst kind of support forum. At least my experience over at Xperia phone support forum is promptly replied.
maybe they are embarrassed that their "premium" phone doesn't have a basica feature, so much so that it's "premium headset" doesn't work at it's best with their own kit... sure this is diametrically opposite of the normal way of things.. but hey "LOOK AT THE SHINY SHINY!"
BUT, it looks like if we actually want Apt-x it would be a case of rooting and using magisk as shown in this droidviews post about the RP1 https://www.droidviews.com/magisk-module-for-razer-phone-brings-aptx-hd-ios-11-emoji/
RP2 stuff here
https://www.reddit.com/r/razerphone/comments/at5aut/razer_phone_2_aptx_support/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
So basically, without root there's no option to have good quality bluetooth because razer decided to cheap out and not license basic stuff included in budget phones. a move that even makes their own bluetooth headphones a no go on their own phones as they will sound like crap.
but hey "LOOK AT THE SHINY SHINY!"
I wonder any Razer staff is here in this forum. That's the worst kind of support forum. At least my experience over at Xperia phone support forum is promptly replied.
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