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Paid to Play - Post Relaunch

  • 19 December 2018
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Userlevel 7
Been seeing a ton of positive feedback and loads of complaints on Paid to Play.

I realize a lot of the complaints come from demands that we should raise the cap. In short we won't be raising the cap on P2P though we may add new ways of earning Razer Silver.

With that in mind, i doubt we will stop hearing the complaints - what do you guys think? Should we shut down all the free ways of earning Razer Silver and just go back to the standard - buy stuff and get loyalty points (like every other company) or should we continue to find free ways to give loyalty points (and get a ton of complaints?)

What do you guys think?

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I love P2P keep it coming mltan.
I don't know why people compline about getting free stuff !
Yes we have to pay delivery but its still gives us pore people like me and so many other millions of people like me around the world a chance to get something even if just a game or a cool hat !
Mltan please find it in your hart to listen to all the people that are saying good things about P2P ! I love that much I have already got the next P2P game downloaded and ready to go !
Bring on the 100 Zsilvers a day YES I will be saving for that cool razer hat I would love to ware on my live stream !
The majority of people that are complaining already have money or are just spoiled and greedy and want more n more in life and are never happy ! They wreck every thing for the rest of every one !
There is always going to be people in life that will complain everything in life !
Some would complain if they won a million dollars ! and had to walk a block to pick it up !
(If you let them get there way with getting rid of P2P again then the complainers have one again !).
Userlevel 7
EarLChieL
do we got loyalty point from buying stuff ??

Yes you can get zsilver from owning Razer hardware look at Rewards tab above, register your hardware and ask staff or moderator per PM on items that has no serials number, I believe it’s by providing them the picture. And thanks for reminding me I almost forget I’m qualified for some already;)
Joikansai
Yes you can get zsilver from owning Razer hardware look at Rewards tab above, register your hardware and ask staff or moderator per PM on items that has no serials number, I believe it’s by providing them the picture. And thanks for reminding me I almost forget I’m qualified for some already;)


AH .. i see .
i thought other loyalty point ..
thx for info ...
Why not both?
Userlevel 7
It's a great program and a lot of hard work has gone into it, but people love to complain more than anything else. If you gave everyone a Razer Stealth there would be people that are mad it wasn't a Pro. For some reason they can't handle just not using a part of the program that they don't like. It's sad. Hopefully it doesn't get shut down again, but it's completely understandable if it does, and thanks for at least trying it unlike all the other companies.

It's nicely balanced now too, all the free ways should receive smaller amounts of Silver like they are. (Mogul is nice since you can get a ton, but it's rare) Although I'd like to see the Gold spent/Silver received ratio back to where it was before or higher.:smile_:
Would love to see RazerPay rewarding zSilver for every $x spent.
Userlevel 7
There's actually a small part of me that wants to complain about the smaller Silver daily cap since the larger daily cap was the reason why I played, enjoyed, and pwned other players in a game for a long time but of course I'm grateful for Paid to Play's return. But no matter what, ever since the shutdown of the program before, I'm mad at those who complained about it since the start and I don't get the point of their way of thinking.
If I may ask, what exactly are they complaining about?
Userlevel 7
iStinger
Would love to see RazerPay rewarding zSilver for every $x spent.


We might do that in the future.
Userlevel 7
mltan
We might do that in the future.

A bit offtopic, but are there any plans to bring RazerPay to Europe?
mltan
Been seeing a ton of positive feedback and loads of complaints on Paid to Play.

I realize a lot of the complaints come from demands that we should raise the cap. In short we won't be raising the cap on P2P though we may add new ways of earning Razer Silver.

With that in mind, i doubt we will stop hearing the complaints - what do you guys think? Should we shut down all the free ways of earning Razer Silver and just go back to the standard - buy stuff and get loyalty points (like every other company) or should we continue to find free ways to give loyalty points (and get a ton of complaints?)

What do you guys think?

As somebody who has made every attempt to be a part of every single part of the razer ecosystem I have opted out of participating in the miner software. This is the first time I've not been excited, and frankly been a little disappointed, by something razer has made. To only be disappointed by a company once in a lifetime is pretty lucky imo so I'm not burning my razer collection or anything yet but I do think it is bizarre that I can't buy Razer stuff with zGold and I dont earn any of Razer's currency by participating in the most important part of the Razer ecosystem (buying razer hardware). Plus I'm absolutely sick of all the complaining from plebs that are mad that they cant have free stuff shipped to them and all that nonsense that I'm sure you hear way more about.
Userlevel 7
mltan


@mltan

THIS

Put an end to the negativity, and go the standard route/loyalty points route. The ones who demanded free stuff will go away, and the ones loyal to the brand will stick around.


Side note, I spent $50 the other day at Sears ... thanks for reminding me, they gave me $25 rewards dollars via a promo on Green Monday, which I have to use on some sweet tools today before it expires.
mltan
Been seeing a ton of positive feedback and loads of complaints on Paid to Play.

I realize a lot of the complaints come from demands that we should raise the cap. In short we won't be raising the cap on P2P though we may add new ways of earning Razer Silver.

With that in mind, i doubt we will stop hearing the complaints - what do you guys think? Should we shut down all the free ways of earning Razer Silver and just go back to the standard - buy stuff and get loyalty points (like every other company) or should we continue to find free ways to give loyalty points (and get a ton of complaints?)

What do you guys think?


Please don't remove the P2P program, I'm a loyal user of Razer, I've bought plenty of razer gear and never have been able to get any loyalty points. Bought the Razer Nari on Day 1, no points received with it. I also don't buy games a lot so i don't really earn in that way either. The P2P, the new softminer, and being on the forums is the only viable way for me.
mltan
Been seeing a ton of positive feedback and loads of complaints on Paid to Play.

I realize a lot of the complaints come from demands that we should raise the cap. In short we won't be raising the cap on P2P though we may add new ways of earning Razer Silver.

With that in mind, i doubt we will stop hearing the complaints - what do you guys think? Should we shut down all the free ways of earning Razer Silver and just go back to the standard - buy stuff and get loyalty points (like every other company) or should we continue to find free ways to give loyalty points (and get a ton of complaints?)

What do you guys think?


Free is better! We want the old list back where we can earn zSilver! (CSGO, Fortnite, Minecraft etc.)
mltan
Been seeing a ton of positive feedback and loads of complaints on Paid to Play.

I realize a lot of the complaints come from demands that we should raise the cap. In short we won't be raising the cap on P2P though we may add new ways of earning Razer Silver.

With that in mind, i doubt we will stop hearing the complaints - what do you guys think? Should we shut down all the free ways of earning Razer Silver and just go back to the standard - buy stuff and get loyalty points (like every other company) or should we continue to find free ways to give loyalty points (and get a ton of complaints?)

What do you guys think?


First of all, THANKS FOR BRINGING BACK THE PAID TO PLAY <3
This system used to be giving me some motivation to try out different game and I had found out tons of new game to play !!
Also, I get a chance to win some cool prizes just for playing those games !!

Ain't sure why many complaint here and there, but I have a little concern about the silver system currently...
Is it possible to extend the expiry date to 2 years rather than 1 year ? Its kinda hard to utilize the point with such short expiry date, as I don't usually get much silver other than Paid to Play

Just a little concern, hope it will reach to your consideration.

Thanks once again XD
Userlevel 7
mltan
Been seeing a ton of positive feedback and loads of complaints on Paid to Play.

I realize a lot of the complaints come from demands that we should raise the cap. In short we won't be raising the cap on P2P though we may add new ways of earning Razer Silver.

With that in mind, i doubt we will stop hearing the complaints - what do you guys think? Should we shut down all the free ways of earning Razer Silver and just go back to the standard - buy stuff and get loyalty points (like every other company) or should we continue to find free ways to give loyalty points (and get a ton of complaints?)

What do you guys think?


Honestly, I don't think there is anything that can really be done to stop the complaints. I'm actually not even sure where the complaints are coming from since all I've been seeing are praises regarding Paid to Play but what I do notice is that there are a lot of people lurking around Insider and Reddit that just hates on whatever Razer does without bringing anything constructive (not sure myself why they go out of their way to post in Razer threads and forums). Rather than focusing on people that complain about promotions (they aren't likely your audience), the focus should be about the current audience who actually appreciates what Razer does.

From what I gather spending a lot of time in Insider and Reddit, I believe most of the people hating are those who are unhappy with the products. My recommendation to actually help bring positive feedback to the brand name is to:

  • Improve quality control (even if you say it's top notch, it doesn't hurt to improve).
  • Increase the quality of software.
  • Give better warranty.
  • Be aggressive with competition, especially on the price of products.
  • Continue to create promotions such as Paid to Play to keep true audience happy.
  • Interact with your audience more, people like it when you post 😆.

These are my observations in my time reading through Insider and Reddit. If there is another constructive feedback I would like to give regarding the current Paid to Play is that the previous version of Paid to Play where we were able to vote for games and receive more Silver was superior so people tend to draw comparisons while forgetting that the promotion is a giveaway that doesn't really benefit the company aside from positive PR.
mltan
We might do that in the future.


Nice! Can't wait for RazerPay launch in SG
mltan
Yes we are considering it and going back to the standard way of just rewarding our customers when they purchase products (like every other company out there). I realize that when there are free ways, it creates a lot of complaints.

You guys nailed cortex on mobile!! Finally something we can explore games that aren't garbage slots!
Userlevel 7
I got this evil idea of blocking off those who complain senselessly about the P2P program. It can be considered as spam perhaps.
Of course earning zsilver for free takes longer. There is no reason to be greedy. Otherwise it would be unfair to those who use gold. Don't stop it please.
I would just shut it down, can't really earn anything anymore. I lost 30,000 silver on January 1st and today on February 1st i lost another 30,000. I am sure come March 1st i will lost the last 30,000 i got left. Then earning 50 a day, just does not seem worth it. I think it was fine the way it was before.
Userlevel 7
Gamer866
I would just shut it down, can't really earn anything anymore. I lost 30,000 silver on January 1st and today on February 1st i lost another 30,000. I am sure come March 1st i will lost the last 30,000 i got left. Then earning 50 a day, just does not seem worth it. I think it was fine the way it was before.

Then I suggest you try to use it now like I did.
Userlevel 7
Sadly, wathever the choice you'll make for P2P, it'll bring complains.
I too was unhappy when i learned that P2P was going to stop the first time.
But i was new to Insider and it took me some time to understand what justified this decision.

I miss the previous P2P system for the silver ratio.
And by this time i thought that having a Razer device plugged to your PC and linked to your account was required to use it, while others had multi accounts and for a minor price of 10 bucks completely ruined what was a great community program.

Like allways, it's easier to complain about something than praise it.
And when you make something with a diligent heart, the tiny part (compare to the whole users/custommers) of people who shows their grief leaves some perpetual scars.

But please, try to be stronger that this grumbling crowd.
You must have statictic proving that P2P is still a success.

It might soung greedy from me but i must admit that without the Zsilvers program, i'd never been able to have all those Razer products.
But thanks to this i also promote this brand to my entourage.

Thanks Razer for the devices that you make, they're durable (not so children tooth proof but nothing seems to be:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye_:) and have a good aspect.
Thanks for the community that you made who allways answer (at least to me) when a problem happens.
And lastly, thanks for your fidelity program that made me want to discover more of your brand.

Hope that i wasn't too much of a pain to read this.
nononononononononono plz keep paid to play!
To all you people who are complaining, STOP IT YOU UNGRATEFUL BA******
Hermanator
Then I suggest you try to use it now like I did.

I just gave up, they had a good thing going. It is a shame cause their products are nice, the war buds i got were comfy.....shame they stopped working not even a year in.
Userlevel 7
Kenserky
It might soung greedy from me but i must admit that without the Zsilvers program, i'd never been able to have all those Razer products.

You make it sound like you received a ton of products from the P2P program alone.