It's been a while since we decided to suspend Paid to Play - and each time I wanted to review it, I would go back to the forum thread - read the posts, and decide that maybe it's not worth doing it.
We started Paid to Play as a way to see how we could get community members who loved Razer, but couldn't afford to buy our gear, a way to grind and earn Razer products and other awesome giveaways. However, while we had good intentions for it, we started getting a lot of complaints, demands and worst of all - death threats to our team and I decided to put a stop to it.
I've thought about how we might bring it back sometime and here are my thoughts:
1. It will be focused more for users of Razer products and services - i.e. it's more to reward our existing customers as opposed to someone looking for a free hand-out.
2. We will probably want to focus on users of Razer zGold - and that will be the MAIN way of earning zSilver - for those who spend on games etc with zGold and earn zSilver.
3. We will still have multiple SECONDARY different ways of earning zSilver - it could be Paid to Play on PC, or on Mobile, or maybe through our partners like Esports Mogul and much more. It will still be possible to grind but there will be multiple different ways instead of just one way.
4. This will no longer be for those who aren't already Razer customers - and using Razer services is going to be the main way to earn zSilver - the other free ways of doing so will be secondary ways.
5. Anytime it gets negative, people demanding stuff, complaining or death threats we'll suspend it again.
Just some thoughts about this - it may or may not come back - but just some of my thoughts on how we might evolve Paid to Play.
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Mogul Arena would be an awesome way to earn, but it REALLY needs A LOT of SERIOUS work.
Currently, 99.5% of events are in ASIA. That effectively eliminates US and EU users to participate in them due to server location and time of those events.
It also needs to support more current games like PUBG, Fornut, CoD etc.
Those are the 2 biggest issues with Mogul Arena as before Razer Arena was shut down, it was pretty good and enjoyable since I could actually compete in CSGO tournaments.
Currently, 99.5% of events are in ASIA. That effectively eliminates US and EU users to participate in them due to server location and time of those events.
It also needs to support more current games like PUBG, Fornut, CoD etc.
Those are the 2 biggest issues with Mogul Arena as before Razer Arena was shut down, it was pretty good and enjoyable since I could actually compete in CSGO tournaments.
shmekermeister
This and multiaccounts on Esports Elite. It's the same problem that PtP had.
What ? no its not u will just play normal matches in games and for this you will get some points(zSilvers) look at Faceit system...
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Killi8n
What ? no its not u will just play normal matches in games and for this you will get some points(zSilvers) look at Faceit system...
In that case, I am all for it! But I am talking about the current state of the system.
Are people who are currently part of the 43k+ members of the 'Give Us The Razer Toaster' facebook page considered to be part of the Razer ecosystem?
Is there any reason to still have points expire after a year though? The only way to reasonably get enough points to get anything now is to spend zgold and it would cost you over 500 dollars to get anything decent. If you wanted one of the top point items it would be thousands of dollars. That just seems a little unreasonable for a normal person to blow in a year trying to get something, especially since the items change every few months.
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SESNut
Is there any reason to still have points expire after a year though? The only way to reasonably get enough points to get anything now is to spend zgold and it would cost you over 500 dollars to get anything decent. If you wanted one of the top point items it would be thousands of dollars. That just seems a little unreasonable for a normal person to blow in a year trying to get something, especially since the items change every few months.
A business can't have too much money on the books, that's why all gift cards expire. Like if you lost a gift card and found it in 20 years that company would have to keep track of that balance and keep that money on hand forever, that's why they need to expire.
To get the top rewards you should be paying many hundreds of dollars since the rewards are worth a lot. (Or you can get lucky on Mogul and get a ton of zsilver) People putting zero money into Razer shouldn't expect the top rewards but be happy with the smaller ones.:smile_:
Uhm what.
Amazon points never expire.
Credit card rewards never expire.
And i said thousands of dollars, like 3000.
Amazon points never expire.
Credit card rewards never expire.
And i said thousands of dollars, like 3000.
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SESNut
Uhm what.
Amazon points never expire.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to have an Amazon credit card to earn points? So if you don't pay in time, they get money from you with their APR anyway, and if you get rid of the card I think the points go away.
Credit card rewards never expire.
This depends on the credit card. Some cards have an expiration on their rewards, and some of those that don't have an expiration on rewards have a cap.
And I said thousands of dollars, like 3000
Let's not forget that above all else, the company's tagline is "For Gamers, By Gamers". It is not unreasonable for a company with such a tagline to expect that the users of its products will be spending thousands of dollars on games in a year, so this seems perfectly reasonable.
Of course, those top tier products would be cheaper to buy outright, so it doesn't make sense for somebody who is not willing to spend thousands of dollars on games to obtain the top tier products using zSilver. Barring the Razer Chroma Mug Holder, I don't remember any zSilver peripheral that wasn't available for sale as well.
Amazon gift card balances never expire
you didn't actually give me a good reason as to why they need to have zsilver expire anymore since paid to play is gone.
also, use it or don't otherwise tough tiddies is kind of a terrible argument by the way
also, use it or don't otherwise tough tiddies is kind of a terrible argument by the way
A
I didn't get to use Razer Pay to Play very much when it was still up. However, I know that if you guys find a way to bring it back, it'll be great for most people. People will be able to play their favorite games and be rewarded at the same time which I think is great for the gaming community. People like me who don't really have the spare money to spend on gaming peripherals can finally have hopes of getting zSilver and saving up for them. I think Razer Pay to Play was an amazing and extremely generous idea, and I hope you guys find a way to bring it back!
mltan
It's been a while since we decided to suspend Paid to Play - and each time I wanted to review it, I would go back to the forum thread - read the posts, and decide that maybe it's not worth doing it.
We started Paid to Play as a way to see how we could get community members who loved Razer, but couldn't afford to buy our gear, a way to grind and earn Razer products and other awesome giveaways. However, while we had good intentions for it, we started getting a lot of complaints, demands and worst of all - death threats to our team and I decided to put a stop to it.
I've thought about how we might bring it back sometime and here are my thoughts:
1. It will be focused more for users of Razer products and services - i.e. it's more to reward our existing customers as opposed to someone looking for a free hand-out.
2. We will probably want to focus on users of Razer zGold - and that will be the MAIN way of earning zSilver - for those who spend on games etc with zGold and earn zSilver.
3. We will still have multiple SECONDARY different ways of earning zSilver - it could be Paid to Play on PC, or on Mobile, or maybe through our partners like Esports Mogul and much more. It will still be possible to grind but there will be multiple different ways instead of just one way.
4. This will no longer be for those who aren't already Razer customers - and using Razer services is going to be the main way to earn zSilver - the other free ways of doing so will be secondary ways.
5. Anytime it gets negative, people demanding stuff, complaining or death threats we'll suspend it again.
Just some thoughts about this - it may or may not come back - but just some of my thoughts on how we might evolve Paid to Play.
My True Opinion.
I love razer products, and the chroma ecosystem. Loved Paid to Play, and was excited to add to my peripherals. Although I only had 30K zsliver before being suspended, I still held onto it, waiting for an update.
My suggestions.
- Paid to Play (Love it), This service should only be for loyal customers who have razer products. Razer should give more points for customers who have more peripherals. (For example, 1 razer product = 400p...2 razer products = 600p, and so on.
- People who actually have razer products, are probably not the people sending death threats. The above suggestion would be perfect!
- Interested in gift cards (amazon, starbucks, best buy.. etc)
- make them link multiple accounts to the razer account, so people arent farming.
-Not interested in Mogul/tournaments, friends and I are busy, and are just casual gamers.
- Not interested in ZGold, only play 1 game at a time and they are AAA titles you guys don't have
- Not interested in daily logins for 40 zSilver or low amounts, it just turns me off, knowing that I am
getting such low amount of points. It just isnt worth my time tbh, and might aswell delete Cortex.
- Not interested in other rewards (i.e. clothing discount,)
-Honestly its the internet and not everyone is going to be happy. So Start banning them peoples/ blocking emails that have death threat like context. Cause I hate how that ruined it for everyone else.
Thanks, and hope to see Paid to Play back for the loyal customers.
Currently enjoing my (ornata, firefly, kraken and deathadder)
Userlevel 7
hmmm, more ways to earn zsilvers is always welcomed.
a quick question for mltan, since you already launched RazerPay in MY and soon SG.
Will there be plans for RazerPay users to earn zsilvers? like, how if we use zgold, we get some zsilvers?
Coz personally, I don't really buy that much games to play except when games goes on sale. But I definitely would use e-payments more frequently if available.
a quick question for mltan, since you already launched RazerPay in MY and soon SG.
Will there be plans for RazerPay users to earn zsilvers? like, how if we use zgold, we get some zsilvers?
Coz personally, I don't really buy that much games to play except when games goes on sale. But I definitely would use e-payments more frequently if available.
just make it so you have to have at least 2 razer products owned and connected to earn and use zsilver.
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mltan
Nous aurons différentes façons de gagner de l'argent mais toutes les méthodes gratuites auront de petites sommes d'argent. Et oui - il n’est pas fait pour vous d’avoir toutes les réalisations de zSilver Insider pour vous offrir un Huntsman gratuit - comme je l’ai dit plus tôt, nous le pivotons de sorte que ceux qui utilisent régulièrement zGold expliquent comment accéder au Huntsman gratuit ( et les moyens libres sont de vous aider à y arriver plus rapidement).
En tout cas, je suis content d'avoir 5 € deAnyway, I'm happy to have 5 € discount on the Razer Store and to leave with a mouse pocket for 1 €
Userlevel 6
Suggestion:
1. Remove Razer Pay app and introduce Zgold app for mobile and bring over the existing credits in Razerpay to zgold with Razer insider integrated in it.
2. Paid to play made available to those who owned Razer peripherals
3. Make all razer peripherals use one software which is Razer Synapse 3.0
4. Make Zgold available to buy razer peripherals. (I think the pros are more than cons, enlighten me)
1. Remove Razer Pay app and introduce Zgold app for mobile and bring over the existing credits in Razerpay to zgold with Razer insider integrated in it.
2. Paid to play made available to those who owned Razer peripherals
3. Make all razer peripherals use one software which is Razer Synapse 3.0
4. Make Zgold available to buy razer peripherals. (I think the pros are more than cons, enlighten me)
mltan
It's been a while since we decided to suspend Paid to Play - and each time I wanted to review it, I would go back to the forum thread - read the posts, and decide that maybe it's not worth doing it.
We started Paid to Play as a way to see how we could get community members who loved Razer, but couldn't afford to buy our gear, a way to grind and earn Razer products and other awesome giveaways. However, while we had good intentions for it, we started getting a lot of complaints, demands and worst of all - death threats to our team and I decided to put a stop to it.
I've thought about how we might bring it back sometime and here are my thoughts:
1. It will be focused more for users of Razer products and services - i.e. it's more to reward our existing customers as opposed to someone looking for a free hand-out.
2. We will probably want to focus on users of Razer zGold - and that will be the MAIN way of earning zSilver - for those who spend on games etc with zGold and earn zSilver.
3. We will still have multiple SECONDARY different ways of earning zSilver - it could be Paid to Play on PC, or on Mobile, or maybe through our partners like Esports Mogul and much more. It will still be possible to grind but there will be multiple different ways instead of just one way.
4. This will no longer be for those who aren't already Razer customers - and using Razer services is going to be the main way to earn zSilver - the other free ways of doing so will be secondary ways.
5. Anytime it gets negative, people demanding stuff, complaining or death threats we'll suspend it again.
Just some thoughts about this - it may or may not come back - but just some of my thoughts on how we might evolve Paid to Play.
i have been a razer customer for a long time and its a sad day when a company cannot have giveaways to their customer base without being threatened. thanks razer for trying to give back to the community.
Userlevel 7
PAID TO PLAY IS BACK?!
I hope you bring more ways to get zSilver I need more razer products XD
If zGold is the only way to earn, it's not paid to play but pay to play.
Also as long as the current expiration system stands, there is a very real threat that the earnings will amount to nothing because of the forced short timespan. I'm looking at loosing thousands in just a few months. Maybe you should rethink the pricing; i'm only interested in games, not hardware - digital keys should not cost as much as peripherals.
Also as long as the current expiration system stands, there is a very real threat that the earnings will amount to nothing because of the forced short timespan. I'm looking at loosing thousands in just a few months. Maybe you should rethink the pricing; i'm only interested in games, not hardware - digital keys should not cost as much as peripherals.
When i can spend Z Gold on some popular games like LOL, overwatch, CS:GO etc
Parth1C
THANK YOU Mltan !!!
I cant thank you enough mltan thank you so much for getting us Payed 2 Play Back
This means so much to me and all THE RAZER FAMILY around the world !
If I ever get to meet you in real life I will shake you had and give you a RAZER high Five :big_grin_:
Or even yet just drop by on my mixer stream and say hi ! I will salute you throw my cam even parse you :big_grin_:
Kind Regards
parth1C.
But I don't understand sry, is paid to play alive again or what? In my Razer Cortex, in Spain, I only have the campaign with Steam to get 500zSilver
Gibson7
it's back. but...
"Play games on Razer Cortex and get rewarded with Razer Silver Earn 5 Razer Silver for every minute of gameplay, with a maximum of 100 Razer Silver each day. Qualifying games are updated every 2 weeks."
Well something is something, I have to update or something, it doesn't appears. Or where it appears?
ImfernoX01
Well something is something, I have to update or something, it doesn't appears. Or where it appears?
Don't mind, I just got it XD
mltan
Depends on where you are in the world, in many regions, you can already use Razer Gold for LOL, Overwatch and CS:GO!
would paid to play work for Overwatch sometime soon do you think
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