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webmich
Still waiting on my Amazon preorder here in germany.

So 240hz is only working when using dGPU only? Kinda sad that this is not working automatically with advanced optimus...

But Gsync then (dGPU only) is working fine, is it? Downside until this is eventually getting fixed ist poor battery while not plugged in, correct?

Workaround is to enable/disable dGPU only mode when starting a game, correct? Downside here is 60hz while browsing the web etc.

Hope this will get fixed soon!

240hz can only work in dGPU mode, this isn’t a bug. Intel iGPU can at best handle 144hz. Currently on Optimus it is set to 60hz, not sure if they could implement 144hz as an option or if advanced Optimus has some limitation resulting in 60hz option only.

It is possible we will always have 60hz on Optimus mode, with no option for 144hz (definitely won’t get 240hz).
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I personally see no reason why the igpu shouldn’t be able to handle 1440/240.

I would be happy to have Aoptimus working with 120hz, therefor not having to manually switch between 240hz/dgpu and 60/igpu. This way we could enjoy browsing web etc with more then 60hz, have good battery and still able so use gsync with automatic dGPU for gaming. This is at least what I would have expected from Aoptimus.

Switching manually with the tradeoff in having poor battery or only 60hz desktop isn’t what advanced optimus should be, in my eyes.

I may be could life with 60hz desktop for good battery, but having to manually switch to 240hz every time I want to start a game is ridiculous.
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webmich
So 240hz is only working when using dGPU only? Kinda sad that this is not working automatically with advanced optimus...


Correct. I've tested using a handful of games I'd expect to be whitelisted by NVIDIA (e.g. AC Odyssey), but it doesn't seem like there's anything "advanced" or "optimal" going on at all yet really as the refresh rate is still always locked to 60Hz.
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devinus
Correct. I've tested using a handful of games I'd expect to be whitelisted by NVIDIA (e.g. AC Odyssey), but it doesn't seem like there's anything "advanced" or "optimal" going on at all yet really as the refresh rate is still always locked to 60Hz.


Optimus is just generally buggy even on non g-sync laptops. The best way to look at advanced Optimus is you aren’t having to restart the machine, which is something all g-sync enabled laptops had to do via a mux switch to switch beteeen iGPU and dGPU, guess we just have to be happy with that.
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Do not own a Gen1 Optimus right now, but is it the same with Gen1? On Desktop with 60hz not switching to higher refresh automatically by Optimus automatically switching to dGPU?

Let me ask that differently, doesn’t optimus „Gen1“ switch its refreshrate by automatically switching to dGPU?

Not have to reboot everytime you switch manually is a big improvement, but I think we are not fully there yet.

For me I guess I will stick to dGPU only always, since higher refresh is nice even when browsing the web plus manually switching every time kinda sucks. Will use the laptop at home only anyways so battery life isn’t a big deal.
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webmich
Do not own a Gen1 Optimus right now, but is it the same with Gen1? On Desktop with 60hz not switching to higher refresh automatically by Optimus automatically switching to dGPU?

Let me ask that differently, doesn’t optimus „Gen1“ switch its refreshrate by automatically switching to dGPU?

Not have to reboot everytime you switch manually is a big improvement, but I think we are not fully there yet.


I had an Optimus Razer blade (without G-Sync) where I could have it at 144hz while on iGPU before. I don’t know if the inclusion of G-Sync or the 240hz panel means this is no longer possible or Razer just didn’t want to add the option? Might be a Windows/Intel thing too, until we see another advanced Optimus laptop doing it, we may never know.
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Ah, thanks for that info. Had 2 of the RB17Pros a while ago, but couldn’t remember how it was handled there.

Since it was achieved there, I hope they (Intel and Nvidia I guess, not razer themselfs) are working on bringing it back to their „advanced“ optimus again. Really would be a shame.

And as I sayed before, I would rather go 120hz igpu and dgpu instead of 60hz igpu and having to switch to 240hz dgpu manually. On 1440 more then 120 is unlikely anyways.

Maybe the community finds a way to „hack“ this 60hz bullshit limit on igpu too. I don’t think this problem is a hardware based problem.
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webmich
Ah, thanks for that info. Had 2 of the RB17Pros a while ago, but couldn’t remember how it was handled there.

Since it was achieved there, I hope they (Intel and Nvidia I guess, not razer themselfs) are working on bringing it back to their „advanced“ optimus again. Really would be a shame.

And as I sayed before, I would rather go 120hz igpu and dgpu instead of 60hz igpu and having to switch to 240hz dgpu manually. On 1440 more then 120 is unlikely anyways.

Maybe the community finds a way to „hack“ this 60hz bullshit limit on igpu too. I don’t think this problem is a hardware based problem.


I am not having to manually change to 240hz, the 240hz to 60hz happens when either

a) You put it on automatic mode and it switched based on application
b) You use the Nvidia app to switch between Optimus/Nvidia

There is no two step process for me where I have to both change it to Nvidia and also change the refresh rate manually. Once you set refresh rate of 240hz for dGPU it remembers it.

The only thing missing is that you can’t change the refresh rate on iGPU from 60hz to something else.
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Thanks for that info again. Don’t got my QHD Blade yet, so I can’t test it myself. May be I got something wrong here. This is kinda good news (for me ;)). And again, since it was possible on the old optimus, it should work on the more advanced version too, even when it now has 1440.

I can Image by may be changing the driver information on the „igpu display“ (there are 2 displays as we learned) from „it is able to do 60“ to for example „it can do 120“ and things are fine.
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Did someone tried undervolting yet, is it possible?
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Got my Razor Blade RTX 3080 QHD this week. Compared to my other monitors the white color of screen is quite redish. Did someone realize this also?
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Shipped!! Yay finally 😃
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For the Razer Blade 15 Advanced RTX 3080, what are the maximum denomination of memory and SSD storage space that can be installed? Default memory is 32GB dual-channel DDR4-2933MHz (16GB x 2) and default storage space is 1TB SSD (M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4) and was wondering what the top end maximums were for this model.
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Dyspareunia
For the Razer Blade 15 Advanced RTX 3080, what are the maximum denomination of memory and SSD storage space that can be installed? Default memory is 32GB dual-channel DDR4-2933MHz (16GB x 2) and default storage space is 1TB SSD (M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4) and was wondering what the top end maximums were for this model.


as far as i know,

RAM will be a maximum of 64GB. (2x32GB sticks of DDR4 @ 2933mhz)

SSD wise, the system do come with an empty M.2. i added another 1 TB to my system on that. no idea on the MAXIMUM.
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Dyspareunia
For the Razer Blade 15 Advanced RTX 3080, what are the maximum denomination of memory and SSD storage space that can be installed? Default memory is 32GB dual-channel DDR4-2933MHz (16GB x 2) and default storage space is 1TB SSD (M.2 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4) and was wondering what the top end maximums were for this model.

Someone use sabrent 4tb rocket on blade stealth, pretty sure it can handle this too. Just don’t waste the money for PCIe 4.0 since the cpu only can handle pcie 3.0. For ram as other mentioned 64gb it’s stated on specification as well, ram speed not sure, up to 2933 or 3200 MHz, depends what xmp says.
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I see that the Razer Blade Advanced 2021 4K OLED with RTX 3080 now only says it has 8gb of VRAM on thr product pages! Is this correct? Serial number is same as before and up until yesterday it said it had 16 GB of VRAM for the GPU (serial: RZ09-0367CE53-R3U1).

Is it a webpage glitch? Has anyone received the 4K OLED with RTX 3080 16GB VRAM?
steang
PaulRTX2080Blade
I see that the Razer Blade Advanced 2021 4K OLED with RTX 3080 now only says it has 8gb of VRAM on thr product pages! Is this correct? Serial number is same as before and up until yesterday it said it had 16 GB of VRAM for the GPU (serial: RZ09-0367CE53-R3U1).

Is it a webpage glitch? Has anyone received the 4K OLED with RTX 3080 16GB VRAM?


As far as i know, only the pro 17 inch 4K 120HZ has the 16gb version.
Current: Razer Blade 14 (2015) i7-4720HQ, GTX 970M Coming: Razer Blade 15 Base (Early 2021), i7-10750H, RTX 3070, QHD 165HZ
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steang
As far as i know, only the pro 17 inch 4K 120HZ has the 16gb version.


That one has also changed to 8GB VRAM 3 days ago.

https://www.razer.com/gaming-laptops/Razer-Blade-Pro-17/RZ09-0368CE63-R3U1
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But it still says 16 GB VRAM when configuring the 4K OLED 15 Advanced here:

https://mysupport.razer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4089/kw/rtx%203080%20advanced
Mannymal
I have my RB15A QHD on the mail.

So I was disappointed to read here that when using the iGPU it is limited to 60hz. Very disappointed, to the point where I may return the laptop. Is there ANY way to use the iGPU at more than 60hz? Is there at least a BIOS switch to boot on iGPU mode allowing for higher refresh rates? I can't stand doing any desktop work at 60hz, and running on dGPU permantently would kill battery life. I'm used to my current 2019 RB constantly running at 144hz regardless of which GPU is active.
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Mannymal
I have my RB15A QHD on the mail.

So I was disappointed to read here that when using the iGPU it is limited to 60hz. Very disappointed, to the point where I may return the laptop. Is there ANY way to use the iGPU at more than 60hz? Is there at least a BIOS switch to boot on iGPU mode allowing for higher refresh rates? I can't stand doing any desktop work at 60hz, and running on dGPU permantently would kill battery life. I'm used to my current 2019 RB constantly running at 144hz regardless of which GPU is active.

AFAIK you’ll have to return it and get the FHD model which uses traditional Optimus
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easytruckBeauBlue589
AFAIK you’ll have to return it and get the FHD model which uses traditional Optimus


I see. What a bummer. QHD + G-Sync were the main reason I was upgrading. A return to Razer may be in order.
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So, I got the Advanced model with rtx3080 and QHD screen. When I connect it via usbc or thunderbolt to my docking station, it looks like it cannot run the external monitor at its native refresh rate (144hz) but at max at 120hz. I can see that the dGPU is running it, it correctly recognize it and display the gsync options as well, but if I set 144hz nothing comes up on the monitor (the machine seems to believe it's sending the signal, but the monitor does not receive anything).

Anyone with similar experiences?
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ZephirSt
So, I got the Advanced model with rtx3080 and QHD screen. When I connect it via usbc or thunderbolt to my docking station, it looks like it cannot run the external monitor at its native refresh rate (144hz) but at max at 120hz. I can see that the dGPU is running it, it correctly recognize it and display the gsync options as well, but if I set 144hz nothing comes up on the monitor (the machine seems to believe it's sending the signal, but the monitor does not receive anything).

Anyone with similar experiences?


What docking station are you using to pass thru your signal from the laptop to the monitor? That may be the bottleneck. Try connecting directly to the monitor.
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XrayNorthWest
What docking station are you using to pass thru your signal from the laptop to the monitor? That may be the bottleneck. Try connecting directly to the monitor.

I forgot to add it, but I already excluded the dock being the issue: the exact same setup works without any problem with an older dell XPS 15, which is even running the monitor via the integrated gpu
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