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Joikansai
In computex intel showed this stealth with that cpu engineering model, it reported better than ryzen cpu with Vega. Happy google translate:smile_:

So intel is taking their integrated gpu seriously again? I like the sound of that. Hopefully we get that as a consumer model. Might help with the battery drain issue that the current model has.
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Diel87
I ordered mine this morning for France.
I hope I do not have that kind of problem.

Hope EU costumers first batch will be fine, like my Blade 15, Finger crossed! I usually order from Razer directly but nowadays there’s already local big store here in Germany offers the Blade laptops even new stealth, though it comes with a year guarantee according staff there when I asked at my local store, but they offer €250 hardware protection for extra 3 years, means 4 years guarantee which is great, Razer needs to bring Razer Care here soon imo like extended guarantee that retailers offer.
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TK-1987
So intel is taking their integrated gpu seriously again? I like the sound of that. Hopefully we get that as a consumer model. Might help with the battery drain issue that the current model has.

There’re two model, base is weak UHD32EU and iris plus (48EU~64EU) on top model 64EU which has ctdp 25 watt for more performance, similar with whisky lake 8656U which take a lot power and it’ll throttle down to 12 watt for manage power supply, in the end of the day it’ll back to manufactures setting if they put 25 watt stable with iris pro 64 it’ll be a decent machine. I’m interested on how the stealth option would be since 2019 stealth use nvidia low tier dgpu.
Joikansai
I don’t get about electrical noise, do you mean high pitch sound?
Mine sounded like pop rocks when CPU would reach about 20-40% utilization with or without the power plugged in, that's the best way I could describe my sound. I confirmed it was not the fans. It was unbearable as I could hear it over 30% volume watching movies. It was my first Blade that I've ever had a problem with that warranted a return, and I've owned ~10 or so going back to Intel 3rd gen.
Joikansai
There’re two model, base is weak UHD32EU and iris plus (48EU~64EU) on top model 64EU which has ctdp 25 watt for more performance, similar with whisky lake 8656U which take a lot power and it’ll throttle down to 12 watt for manage power supply, in the end of the day it’ll back to manufactures setting if they put 25 watt stable with iris pro 64 it’ll be a decent machine. I’m interested on how the stealth option would be since 2019 stealth use nvidia low tier dgpu.

Hopefully it makes it more reliable. I'm sure someone will figure out how to overrite the settings and let the cpu run at full boost for longer. Though I hope razer just starts the base model with 16gb of ram. No more 8gb please. Lol
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rb6freak
Mine sounded like pop rocks when CPU would reach about 20-40% utilization with or without the power plugged in, that's the best way I could describe my sound. I confirmed it was not the fans. It was unbearable as I could hear it over 30% volume watching movies. It was my first Blade that I've ever had a problem with that warranted a return, and I've owned ~10 or so going back to Intel 3rd gen.

Yeah I saw you mentioned that here or on notebookreview, me too never heard that pop rocks sound from any Blade I had, not so many as yours though, that’s why I was curious, didn’t have buzzing ac adapter issue as well on Blade 15. Yeah it’s definitely annoying, it’ll bother me even if Fans kicking randomly on idle, which is sometimes but rarely happens on Blade 15.
I have had issues with with thermal throttling at 50C. I talked to support and they said it was perfectly normal. Can that really be true..?
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Danzle1991
I hope this "new" stealth is going to be more than just a Tiger Lake refresh. It's said that the new intel iGPU is as fast as the MX250, which would mean no dGPU, if razer decides on just that. I hope it will feature a GTX1650Max-Q alongside the new CPU. Why? Because it would be THE ultrabook to get then. MSI has their upcoming Prestige 14" with Tiger Lake + a 1650MQ, so i'd say razer can do it too, and better, with that fance vapor chamber.

Wait, tiger lake? You skipped ice and comet lake:big_grin_:. Icelake and cometslake would come first, and unfortunately no intel still behind in gpu department, their mobile gpu iris pro on icelake apparently isn’t close enough to entry level nvidia mobile MX150 25watt on stealth.

It’s according PCworld.
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Droglez
I have had issues with with thermal throttling at 50C. I talked to support and they said it was perfectly normal. Can that really be true..?

Can you provide pictures with what's going on? I would like to monitor your thermals....power limit etc. XTU would be helpful for this.
Joikansai
Wait, tiger lake? You skipped ice and comet lake:big_grin_:. Icelake and cometslake would come first, and unfortunately no intel still behind in gpu department, their mobile gpu iris pro on icelake apparently isn’t close enough to entry level nvidia mobile MX150 25watt on stealth.

It’s according PCworld.

Shame they aren't using the stealth as a direct comparison. The Matebook throttles like an engine without oil from what I've been told. Still it looks close. But, if it uses less power it might be a good alternative. Just hopefully they lower the price so we aren't shelling out $1500 for an entry level model. Lol
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Droglez
I have had issues with with thermal throttling at 50C. I talked to support and they said it was perfectly normal. Can that really be true..?

How is cpu usage? If it’s like 80 above, maybe demand too high than the supply can deliver. It may also the culprit from battery draining on charge, just my theory, I like talking theories:wink_:
Joikansai
Wait, tiger lake? You skipped ice and comet lake:big_grin_:. Icelake and cometslake would come first, and unfortunately no intel still behind in gpu department, their mobile gpu iris pro on icelake apparently isn’t close enough to entry level nvidia mobile MX150 25watt on stealth.

It’s according PCworld.


Not going to lie, with intel releasing three gens in rapid fire i lost track of which is the most current. I asumed the leaked benchmarks of the "fastest iris igpu" where said current gen.
Firebat246
Can you provide pictures with what's going on? I would like to monitor your thermals....power limit etc. XTU would be helpful for this.



Running a stress test in XTU now, and it's power limit throttling and max core frequency is hovering between 2,3 GHz to 2,9 GHz. It's so low that the fans are almost off..
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Danzle1991
Not going to lie, with intel releasing three gens in rapid fire i lost track of which is the most current. I asumed the leaked benchmarks of the "fastest iris igpu" where said current gen.

If see, however there’s already Geekbench for Blade stealth late 2019 with i7 1065g7.
Joikansai
That power limit throttling is normal I would say, nothing to worry about, it happens as well on my Blade 15 even low temperature, the purpose is to keep cpu thermal on heavy usage actually. I was also curious at first but after playing games half year on Blade 15, that tdp limitation is worth keeping the Blade run cooler, idk about power limit throttling on other brands, but they’re also limiting tdp like for example on 8750H to 25 watt (especially thin light gaming laptops with minimal cooling room) which is usually 45 Watt or more, some users (not Blade) tweaking the bios to unlock it, but it’s risky imo, i saw some of them has already hardware issues most probably because of that tweak.
If you run cpu intensive titles, and it cap 100% it means cpu bottleneck. I never see my games, cpu intensive one, like gta V, AC franchises, Tomb Raider franchises reaching above 70 or 80% cpu usage, gpu usage is other story. Ultrabook cpu tdp base is 15 Watt, i think your cpu is set boost to 25 watt, so after intensive usage it’ll down to 15 and on idle under 10 watt or maybe 5 watt for battery life purposes.

The thing is that it was plugged in the whole time and it seemed like it had the capabilities of running "harder", but didn't do it for some reason. On another note, I see the MX150 struggling with the wattage aswell. Thermals are ROCK solid at around 59C, but I honestly thing it's the wall charger setting the limit at this point. Which is fairly sad I'd say..
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Droglez
The thing is that it was plugged in the whole time and it seemed like it had the capabilities of running "harder", but didn't do it for some reason. On another note, I see the MX150 struggling with the wattage aswell. Thermals are ROCK solid at around 59C, but I honestly thing it's the wall charger setting the limit at this point. Which is fairly sad I'd say..

59 degrees on gaming or xtu stress? Xtu stress doesn’t stress cpu anymore nowadays, try running some intensive apps like gaming, try gta V, AC franchise, tomb raider or pubg, you’ll see higher cpu temperatures. It may have that power limit since the gpu is 25 watt if cpu boost to 25 watt it’ll be only 15 watt left to supply the system, so throttle cpu to 15 watt may let the system run more stable...I’m not quite sure what I’m talking about though only doing some idiot math:big_grin_:, but my concern is that on gaming video above, running AC Odyssey, BFV and battlefront all cpu hitting 100% usage may boost wattage as well, by limiting FPS to 30% he could manage to lower cpu usage. It may avoid bigger power demand, how about trying that.
Does anyone with the 4k screen seem to think the refresh seems sluggish? Just moving the mouse around and switching between windows It is quite bothersome and I want to make sure that its just me and not an issue with the laptop itself
Well sadly I'll be returning my unit. After hearing the buzzing noise coming from the laptop I can't unhear it. So it kind ruins using it. I'll probably get another at a later time.

BTW I contacted technical support first and I had a facepalm moment. I won't reveal his name. But, after explaining the issue the Tech suggested the issue was that Windows needed to be updated. I paused in disbelief. I wanted to ask him if he knows how windows 10 works? It updates all the time you turn it off. Lol. So he had no idea what he was talking about as he was just going through a list of old do this to fix your problem.
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Don't get me wrong my laptop was basically perfect besides the buzzing noise. ((Coil Whine?)) So if anyone sees this and thinks this isn't a good laptop please don't think that. I'm gonna wait a bit and get another one down the road.
Joikansai
59 degrees on gaming or xtu stress? Xtu stress doesn’t stress cpu anymore nowadays, try running some intensive apps like gaming, try gta V, AC franchise, tomb raider or pubg, you’ll see higher cpu temperatures. It may have that power limit since the gpu is 25 watt if cpu boost to 25 watt it’ll be only 15 watt left to supply the system, so throttle cpu to 15 watt may let the system run more stable...I’m not quite sure what I’m talking about though only doing some idiot math:big_grin_:, but my concern is that on gaming video above, running AC Odyssey, BFV and battlefront all cpu hitting 100% usage may boost wattage as well, by limiting FPS to 30% he could manage to lower cpu usage. It may avoid bigger power demand, how about trying that.


I have done some further investigation, and XTU does not stress CPU very much, no. I tried Cinebench and it ran like a dream. Hitting all cores at around 3,5 GHz and thermals are still amazing. They really did a good job on that. But in conclusion, it's the power adapter limiting the power at this point, which is a little sad, honestly. But I guess one can buy a bigger one. Or..?
Droglez
Mine does the same thing, but I don't think it's that bad at all. I once in a while hear a very silent "crackling" noise from it. But it's so low that I can barely hear it. Not an issue at all. Your story about the support made laugh. Install windows... Good one!



Just got mine and found that the sound was coming from the speakers not the coils
Droglez
Mine does the same thing, but I don't think it's that bad at all. I once in a while hear a very silent "crackling" noise from it. But it's so low that I can barely hear it. Not an issue at all. Your story about the support made laugh. Install windows... Good one!

It was alot quieter at first. Like a quiet crackling like you said. My old Blade 14 did that and nothing ever came of it. But, now it's alot louder. So that's why I'm not keeping this one. If it was like my Blade 14 I wouldn't mind.

Yeah he should honestly be fired from tech support. You can't fix a hardware issue with software most of the time. I contacted customer support after him because he was just gonna make me do all of this restarting and reseting windows. Not the solution I was looking for.

autoKenyanCopperbuzz155
Just got mine and found that the sound was coming from the speakers not the coils

Mine is coming from the bottom near the fans. That's why I thought it was the fan on mine.
Joikansai
Yes it might be. There’s 2 usb c port there you can try adding one from amazon with similar wattage, I think if the cpu and gpu run at full 25 watt it’ll be only 15 Watt for the rest Systems, fans lightning take also quite wattage, this is maybe the reason why some users say that on gaming the battery rundowns when I’m not wrong. I saw also on the video i shared that shows on gaming usage, cpu running on 100% when he’s not limiting FPS and vsync on, it means cpu bottleneck the gpu, idk if it’s performance or power supply though, but performance seemly great. Second possibility it’s on bios locked to some wattages point in order to keep cpu not throttling, power limit throttling is the result, it’s similar with Blade 15, and I don’t really care about this since gaming performance isn’t hugely effected, i personally prefer better temperatures than performance in a gaming laptop.

Now I have been playing for a while - approx 2-3 hrs, and the battery is down to 25% while plugged in! This cannot be right.. Any thoughts?
Myoca
In the Synapse software you can toggle between 40 and 60Hz for the screen. Check and see that you haven't set it to 40. My screen is fine but I am getting buzzing from the speakers.


That was one of the first things I did. I am watching videos and I notice it as well. I am not sure if there is a way to test the panel to be sure. I guess I have to go into a store like best buy and see a display one and see if I notice the same issues.

*side note my main desktop is 165hz so I know it wont be as smooth but I do not remember 60hz being this jarring before
Droglez


Running a stress test in XTU now, and it's power limit throttling and max core frequency is hovering between 2,3 GHz to 2,9 GHz. It's so low that the fans are almost off..

Dumb question: Did you have to do anything special to install XTU? When I tried to install it I got an error that said I had an unsupported platform?
Droglez
Now I have been playing for a while - approx 2-3 hrs, and the battery is down to 25% while plugged in! This cannot be right.. Any thoughts?

I've noticed the same discharging when plugged in and gaming. I may look into an aftermarket charger.

Also, when I was playing Civ 6 the system seems to run fairly well for the first half hour or so, but then begins to noticeably start bogging down and becoming choppy after that. I'll have to start looking at thermals and power to see what is going on with this. I'll be pretty disappointed if this system isn't capable of running CIV 6...