Hi all,
have found many reports of instability with 64GB of RAM (2x32GB) with memory that officially meets the specifications for Razer Blade laptops - (1.2V DDR4 2933MHz SO-DIMMs).
is anyone actually using 64GB of RAM with their Razer blades? could you say what model you have, and what RAM are you using (specifications, part numbers/URL if possible)?
I think it would help a lot of people who are looking toward going all out and maxxing out their Razer Blades
Thank you
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TurboTacho
Ahh my bad, I misinterpreted your previous post above.
no prob. in your original post you also told him to double check with hwinfo anyway
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RazerUserNow
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I know this. That is why in my post that you quoted I said "half of 2933". To repeat: Razer shipped out my blade with 3200 capable memory, but this memory is being run at 2933 and not 3200, and can be seen in my CPU-Z because it is reported in my CPU-Z "Memory" tab as being at half of 2933 (well, currently 1,463.9, though it goes up and down as I watch).
What I am saying in my post that you quoted, is that I am agreeing with the "weileong" post that your reply to the "Matthewe79" post, that he is "probably" running at 3200, has no basis, since he did not upload a screenshot of his CPU-Z "Memory" tab, only his "SPD" tabs, which report what the RAM is capable of but is the wrong information for answering his question of what his RAM is actually running at. That is why I said in my post:
Ahh my bad, I misinterpreted your previous post above.
TurboTacho
The RAM shown in CPU-Z is indicated as single data rate speeds. DDR stands for Double Data Rate, hence the actual speed is twice of the SPD as shown in CPU-Z.
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I know this. That is why in my post that you quoted I said "half of 2933". To repeat: Razer shipped out my blade with 3200 capable memory, but this memory is being run at 2933 and not 3200, and can be seen in my CPU-Z because it is reported in my CPU-Z "Memory" tab as being at half of 2933 (well, currently 1,463.9, though it goes up and down as I watch).
What I am saying in my post that you quoted, is that I am agreeing with the "weileong" post that your reply to the "Matthewe79" post, that he is "probably" running at 3200, has no basis, since he did not upload a screenshot of his CPU-Z "Memory" tab, only his "SPD" tabs, which report what the RAM is capable of but is the wrong information for answering his question of what his RAM is actually running at. That is why I said in my post:
So for his post, we cannot tell what speed his RAM is actually running at because he only put screenshots of his SPD tab, which shows what speed the RAM is rated for (which is not the same question)
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RazerUserNow
I also think this is not correct. I installed CPU-Z on my Razer. Razer shipped my blade with 3200MHz RAM that runs at 2933. On the CPU-ID "SPD" tab it says 3200, but on the "memory" tab it shows the real speed (half of 2933). So for his post, we cannot tell what speed his RAM is actually running at because he only put screenshots of his SPD tab, which shows what speed the RAM is rated for (which is not the same question)
The RAM shown in CPU-Z is indicated as single data rate speeds. DDR stands for Double Data Rate, hence the actual speed is twice of the SPD as shown in CPU-Z.
TurboTacho
Based on the screenshot above, I believe you're running 3200MHz on XMP 2.0.
I also think this is not correct. I installed CPU-Z on my Razer. Razer shipped my blade with 3200MHz RAM that runs at 2933. On the CPU-ID "SPD" tab it says 3200, but on the "memory" tab it shows the real speed (half of 2933). So for his post, we cannot tell what speed his RAM is actually running at because he only put screenshots of his SPD tab, which shows what speed the RAM is rated for (which is not the same question)
Rogerg_Zapata
2. If so, do I have to buy two ram sticks at the same time? Here what I mean is: The laptop came originally with two ram sticks 2X8GB = 16GB, if I want to upgrade my machine do I have to remove those two sticks or I can just remove 1 and add a new one?
Rogerg_Zapata
Hi there,
I have a RB 15 2020 (early year) Base model, it came with 16GB DDR4 2933Mhz. Same as some of you I have been looking around for compatible ram for my machine without any luck, yet. This thread seems to be my best bet trying to find a definitive answer. I have read all the post within this thread and it seems that most of you guys have PRO models and in these models you can activate the XMP option, something that as we already know it can't be activated in BASE MODELS. My questions are:
1. Does anyone know if I can upgrade my ram let's say to 32GB or 64GB?
2. If so, do I have to buy two ram sticks at the same time? Here what I mean is: The laptop came originally with two ram sticks 2X8GB = 16GB, if I want to upgrade my machine do I have to remove those two sticks or I can just remove 1 and add a new one?
3. It seems, based on the post I have read in this thread that for RB PRO there is not problem using 3200Mhz, but what about for my machine? Do I need to buy ram that is 2933Mhz?
4. Finally, can you guys please provide a link where to buy the ram I need to upgrade my machine?
Thank you all for the information posted early in this thread, and thanks in advance for your help.
Roger.
There are only two slots for memory in your laptop. They are already filled with 2 sticks of 8GB. If you want to upgrade your RAM, those have to come out. You can try to sell them but it will be difficult since not many people will find them useful.
When getting RAM, most people get matched pairs at the same time because there are performance benefits ("dual channel"). Barring compatibility/stability issues with Razer laptops, you can upgrade just one stick of RAM at a time with a tradeoff re: dual-channel memory speeds. It is supposed to work with mismatched RAM sizes (not speeds), but there are complaints from people that RAM that meets the official specs is not working with Razer laptops, so I can't promise anything.
From what I've read, Razer laptops seem quite finicky about what RAM works with them so you should buy from a store that has a good return policy. You are probably not limited to 2933 MHz RAM, in that most RAM that is rated for 3200MHz can downclock to 2933. Razer itself ships laptops with RAM rated for 3200MHz but running at 2933. Since you're not familiar with all these things, your best bet may be to buy from a local store that can help you with it.
I think there is some confusion here in terms of how CPU-Z reports information. You have uploaded two screenshots of CPU-Z "SPD" tabs for your RAM modules. That reports what information is stored in your memory DIMMs, i.e. what the manufacturer "declares" the RAM can do. It does not mean that your RAM is currently running at those specs. You need to look at the "memory" tab to see what speeds, latencies etc. your RAM is currently operating at.
Matthewe79
Also attached are my CPUZ before and after.
It is now showing XMP 2.0, but not sure if it's enabled?
Also ran Prime95 blended test for a while, no issues yet.
Can anyone tell me then, looking at my images if in fact the 2021 Base 15 does support XMP?
Thanks.
TurboTacho
Sad to hear that, but thankfully you'd found a way to downgrade it back to 1.06.
I've also observed in the past days, Razer Support website silently pulled out the BIOS 1.08 update, and reverted to the 1.06.
Yeah. Good thing that they have finally pulled out the bios update. I did multiples complaints to them. This was a dumb decision from razer to even think that they could remove the XMP support without having us complaining.
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podupuis
Actually, the bios update is still up but the release note has been removed. I'm probably the one that you saw that fall victim to the bios update. I did a few complaints to razer but no luck. Apparently, they have removed the XMP support because some people had a reliable issue with 3200mhz ram. My 2x 16GB 3200mhz CL18 gskills ram work perfectly fine.
** I DID manage to downgrade it back to bios 1.06 but it was a pain in the butt. If you want 3200mhz, DO NOT update your bios to 1.08 **
Sad to hear that, but thankfully you'd found a way to downgrade it back to 1.06.
I've also observed in the past days, Razer Support website silently pulled out the BIOS 1.08 update, and reverted to the 1.06.
TurboTacho
It's quite rubbish. And apparently they've quietly removed the 1.08 update and restored the 1.06.
Someone in the forum has fallen victim to it apparently...
Actually, the bios update is still up but the release note has been removed. I'm probably the one that you saw that fall victim to the bios update. I did a few complaints to razer but no luck. Apparently, they have removed the XMP support because some people had a reliable issue with 3200mhz ram. My 2x 16GB 3200mhz CL18 gskills ram work perfectly fine.
** I DID manage to downgrade it back to bios 1.06 but it was a pain in the butt. If you want 3200mhz, DO NOT update your bios to 1.08 **
For people looking at RAM, be sure to look at the reviews on the site you're buying from as well - not everyone is aware of or participates in insider.razer.com - I was clicking around and saw this:
https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Impact-3200MHz-Memory-HX432S20IBK2-64/dp/B084929MWL/ref=sr_1_3
One of the reviews specifically said it did not work in his 2020 Razer:
[indent]
Snellinator
5.0 out of 5 stars Sadly - not compatible with Razer Blade 17 Pro (2020)
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on October 3, 2020
Capacity: 64GB Kit (2x32GB)Style: 2933MHzVerified Purchase
I cant knock Kingston memory as I now from past experience that it is one of the best. That said, this is not compatible with my Razer laptop (despite updating BIOS and EC to Oct 2020) and so I am returning.
Symptoms include screen flicker, black screen and then BSOD followed by multiple failed restarts with many different errors being reported (Win10 OS).
When it does run up, task manager does report the 64Gb and 2933 Mhz of the RAM sticks (I purchased 2933 sticks rather than 3200). Will have to try some other manufacturer I guess.[/indent]
https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Impact-3200MHz-Memory-HX432S20IBK2-64/dp/B084929MWL/ref=sr_1_3
One of the reviews specifically said it did not work in his 2020 Razer:
[indent]
Snellinator
5.0 out of 5 stars Sadly - not compatible with Razer Blade 17 Pro (2020)
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on October 3, 2020
Capacity: 64GB Kit (2x32GB)Style: 2933MHzVerified Purchase
I cant knock Kingston memory as I now from past experience that it is one of the best. That said, this is not compatible with my Razer laptop (despite updating BIOS and EC to Oct 2020) and so I am returning.
Symptoms include screen flicker, black screen and then BSOD followed by multiple failed restarts with many different errors being reported (Win10 OS).
When it does run up, task manager does report the 64Gb and 2933 Mhz of the RAM sticks (I purchased 2933 sticks rather than 3200). Will have to try some other manufacturer I guess.[/indent]
Userlevel 5
It's quite rubbish. And apparently they've quietly removed the 1.08 update and restored the 1.06.
Someone in the forum has fallen victim to it apparently...
Someone in the forum has fallen victim to it apparently...
thanks for the public-service warning!
so it seems they're restricting machines to JEDEC-only timings, with Intel restricting everything to 2933 (makes sense, since on my machine the RAM shipped out by Razer with my laptop is physically 3200MHz but it is running at 2933).
I can only conclude that they are unable to get the machines to run it stably at anything higher than 2933... it's good to know the maximum limit I guess. People who want more than the shipped amount of RAM can stick to cheaper RAM modules ... assuming those work!!! I still do not have any brand/make/model of RAM that I'm "certain" will work without problems...
The 2021 Razer Blades have one model that ships with 32GB, I wonder what RAM Razer uses with that
so it seems they're restricting machines to JEDEC-only timings, with Intel restricting everything to 2933 (makes sense, since on my machine the RAM shipped out by Razer with my laptop is physically 3200MHz but it is running at 2933).
I can only conclude that they are unable to get the machines to run it stably at anything higher than 2933... it's good to know the maximum limit I guess. People who want more than the shipped amount of RAM can stick to cheaper RAM modules ... assuming those work!!! I still do not have any brand/make/model of RAM that I'm "certain" will work without problems...
The 2021 Razer Blades have one model that ships with 32GB, I wonder what RAM Razer uses with that
TurboTacho
Just a PSA: I've just noticed the Razer Blade 15 Advanced 2020 model has got a new BIOS update that removes XMP support. My guess is they probably remove the 3200MHz function of your RAM. So it's better not to patch it if you've already purchased your upgrade kit.
I guess users like me won't be able to update the BIOS due to this removal.
Userlevel 5
Just a PSA: I've just noticed the Razer Blade 15 Advanced 2020 model has got a new BIOS update that removes XMP support. My guess is they probably remove the 3200MHz function of your RAM. So it's better not to patch it if you've already purchased your upgrade kit.
I guess users like me won't be able to update the BIOS due to this removal.
I guess users like me won't be able to update the BIOS due to this removal.
ha1o2surfer96
I was banned from posting for some reason.
Here is what I have. 2x
Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 at Amazon.com
good to know, thanks!
OK, the impression I'm getting is, 64GB of RAM is more likely to be stable with "not bleeding edge" RAM - this could be why HIDEvolution is listing their 64GB custom models with 2666MHz RAM and not 2933MHz RAM. The laptops are also not pushing RAM to 3200MHz by default at least - my machine was shipped with 3200MHz RAM but they are being run at 2933MHz (I have not tried to tweak this).
I was banned from posting for some reason.
Here is what I have. 2x
Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 at Amazon.com
Here is what I have. 2x
Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM Memory Module for Laptop Computers (260 Pin SODIMM, 1.2V) M471A4G43MB1 at Amazon.com
ha1o2surfer96
I have 64GB of 2666 in my 2021 ADV. I had it in my 2020 ADV (2070Super). No issues for the 1 month I've used it in this new model so far!
Hi that's great - can you tell us what RAM specifications etc. it is? If you're not sure, can you install cpu-z https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html and tell us what it says about your RAM? If you bought it online, can you post the URL of the part you bought?
Separately, any reason why you chose 2666MHz RAM when your machine should be able to support 2933 at least?
Thank you
I have 64GB of 2666 in my 2021 ADV. I had it in my 2020 ADV (2070Super). No issues for the 1 month I've used it in this new model so far!
I am now reading elsewhere that this here works 100% in: RAZER BLADE PRO 17 (Early 2020)
Now I don't know what to believe.. I guess I am going to give this a shot. (XMP) is apparently enabled by default, so absolutely no changes should have to be done. This should literally be plug and play.
Kingston HyperX Impact DDR4 SO-DIMM 3200MHz PC4-25600 CL20 Dual Kit 2x32GB:
(1.) https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Impact-3200MHz-Memory-HX432S20IBK2-64/dp/B084929MWL/ref=as_li_ss_tl?dchild=1&keywords=hyperx+impact+3200+64&qid=1602150207&sr=8-2&linkCode=sl1&tag=droningon05-20&linkId=41b7b0fd347608bbcd1ab0831ddf6d40&language=en_US
(2.) https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/9263522/HyperX-Impact-DDR4-kit-64-GB/?cm_mmc=Affiliates-_-CJ-_-4286516-_-11264261&utm_medium=affiliate&cjevent=11c10f7e905c11eb801101e70a82b824&siteid=CJ_11264261_7882476_0169276e65a24f3db63dfec6fc2690e4&utm_source=cj&utm_campaign=Office Depot - Homepage_Capital One Shopping
(3.) https://www.cdw.com/product/kingston-hyperx-64gb-ddr4-3200-cl20-260-pin-sodimm-memory-module/5958718
I chose 2 & 3 as top source, I know that these two distributors get these (factory brand new) directly from Kingston. And for 99.9% certainty will NOT be shipping you someones "returned" or "open box" product. That is always important to me when choosing where to buy from, and I will always gladly be willing to pay a little extra just to know that what I order has not had someone else's paws all over my electronic product prior to shipping it to me!
Now I don't know what to believe.. I guess I am going to give this a shot. (XMP) is apparently enabled by default, so absolutely no changes should have to be done. This should literally be plug and play.
Kingston HyperX Impact DDR4 SO-DIMM 3200MHz PC4-25600 CL20 Dual Kit 2x32GB:
(1.) https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Impact-3200MHz-Memory-HX432S20IBK2-64/dp/B084929MWL/ref=as_li_ss_tl?dchild=1&keywords=hyperx+impact+3200+64&qid=1602150207&sr=8-2&linkCode=sl1&tag=droningon05-20&linkId=41b7b0fd347608bbcd1ab0831ddf6d40&language=en_US
(2.) https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/9263522/HyperX-Impact-DDR4-kit-64-GB/?cm_mmc=Affiliates-_-CJ-_-4286516-_-11264261&utm_medium=affiliate&cjevent=11c10f7e905c11eb801101e70a82b824&siteid=CJ_11264261_7882476_0169276e65a24f3db63dfec6fc2690e4&utm_source=cj&utm_campaign=Office Depot - Homepage_Capital One Shopping
(3.) https://www.cdw.com/product/kingston-hyperx-64gb-ddr4-3200-cl20-260-pin-sodimm-memory-module/5958718
I chose 2 & 3 as top source, I know that these two distributors get these (factory brand new) directly from Kingston. And for 99.9% certainty will NOT be shipping you someones "returned" or "open box" product. That is always important to me when choosing where to buy from, and I will always gladly be willing to pay a little extra just to know that what I order has not had someone else's paws all over my electronic product prior to shipping it to me!
ViperGeek
It seems you've already got your answer (yes, it works). I'll just leave another 64GB upgrade success story here.
Upgraded my RB15 Advanced mid-2019 model with:
HyperX Impact 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 SODIMM (Kit of 2) Laptop Memory
and it's been running just fine. Yes, total overkill, but still tickles my obsessive personality when I type 'systeminfo'.
– Dave
So let me get this straight.. this (2666MHz) kit works just fine but NOT the 3200? What is going on here that is keeping this from being compatible with my Early 2020 17 Blade Pro???
If I go that route and purchase that same HyperX, I do not need to enable or disable ANY (XMP) etc.. settings? I can just install it, and boot my PC and Vwaaa-Lah it will work? ... .. This sounds too good to be true, esp. after having experienced a major fail with the 2900. I want the faster speed, but am willing to settle for (less) because I STILLLLL badly need more RAM. Im beyond blown away that nobody has figured this out yet. + It's absolute $HIIIIIT imo. that Razer has zero answers to this, refuses to even have the bright idea to partner with someone like say.. Kingston.. and release their own branded collab with them of "High Perf. (Gaming) Memory" in a 3200MHz or higher Variant.
I guess they REALLY don't want home users cracking these things open and "messing" with their PC's themselves. Oddly enough.. they do not even offer a unit with more than 16Gb of memory, wtf. Just baffles me. I now have a serious love hate relat. with this PC. If I could do it all over agian, I would have probably went with an Alienware or that new mini LED 1K nit MSI unit that has the ability to be spec'd as high or higher than these can (from factory!).
Hi there,
I have a RB 15 2020 (early year) Base model, it came with 16GB DDR4 2933Mhz. Same as some of you I have been looking around for compatible ram for my machine without any luck, yet. This thread seems to be my best bet trying to find a definitive answer. I have read all the post within this thread and it seems that most of you guys have PRO models and in these models you can activate the XMP option, something that as we already know it can't be activated in BASE MODELS. My questions are:
1. Does anyone know if I can upgrade my ram let's say to 32GB or 64GB?
2. If so, do I have to buy two ram sticks at the same time? Here what I mean is: The laptop came originally with two ram sticks 2X8GB = 16GB, if I want to upgrade my machine do I have to remove those two sticks or I can just remove 1 and add a new one?
3. It seems, based on the post I have read in this thread that for RB PRO there is not problem using 3200Mhz, but what about for my machine? Do I need to buy ram that is 2933Mhz?
4. Finally, can you guys please provide a link where to buy the ram I need to upgrade my machine?
Thank you all for the information posted early in this thread, and thanks in advance for your help.
Roger.
I have a RB 15 2020 (early year) Base model, it came with 16GB DDR4 2933Mhz. Same as some of you I have been looking around for compatible ram for my machine without any luck, yet. This thread seems to be my best bet trying to find a definitive answer. I have read all the post within this thread and it seems that most of you guys have PRO models and in these models you can activate the XMP option, something that as we already know it can't be activated in BASE MODELS. My questions are:
1. Does anyone know if I can upgrade my ram let's say to 32GB or 64GB?
2. If so, do I have to buy two ram sticks at the same time? Here what I mean is: The laptop came originally with two ram sticks 2X8GB = 16GB, if I want to upgrade my machine do I have to remove those two sticks or I can just remove 1 and add a new one?
3. It seems, based on the post I have read in this thread that for RB PRO there is not problem using 3200Mhz, but what about for my machine? Do I need to buy ram that is 2933Mhz?
4. Finally, can you guys please provide a link where to buy the ram I need to upgrade my machine?
Thank you all for the information posted early in this thread, and thanks in advance for your help.
Roger.
ViperGeek
It seems you've already got your answer (yes, it works). I'll just leave another 64GB upgrade success story here.
Upgraded my RB15 Advanced mid-2019 model with:
HyperX Impact 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 SODIMM (Kit of 2) Laptop Memory
and it's been running just fine. Yes, total overkill, but still tickles my obsessive personality when I type 'systeminfo'.
– Dave
Lol same here.
I remember when 4MB was a big deal so having 64GB feels good.
It seems you've already got your answer (yes, it works). I'll just leave another 64GB upgrade success story here.
Upgraded my RB15 Advanced mid-2019 model with:
HyperX Impact 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 SODIMM (Kit of 2) Laptop Memory
and it's been running just fine. Yes, total overkill, but still tickles my obsessive personality when I type 'systeminfo'.
– Dave
Upgraded my RB15 Advanced mid-2019 model with:
HyperX Impact 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 SODIMM (Kit of 2) Laptop Memory
and it's been running just fine. Yes, total overkill, but still tickles my obsessive personality when I type 'systeminfo'.
– Dave
Userlevel 5
Based on the screenshot above, I believe you're running 3200MHz on XMP 2.0. To reconfirm this, you can try running HWinfo to verify this in the summary.
Razer Blade BIOS differ from model to model, since they do not have a unified system.
Razer Blade BIOS differ from model to model, since they do not have a unified system.
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