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I present to you Firebat's Blade 15! (144hz/i7-8750H)

JoikansaiAnyone should have it;) I’d like to share but now I let my Blade take his summer vacation at home after finishing Far Cry 5:), I’ll be back next weekend, I think till then someone should sharing that. I believe it’s unlocked somehow to throttle to 45 Watt on gaming mode and 35 watt on balanced mode after around 10 second on higher wattage, correct me if I’m wrong. I think they make it to keep lower temperature and quite Fans for Blade longevity, I wonder if the cpu could stay longer on high frequency, it’ll easily get full gtx 1070 laptops, since gpu performance is already blown away other maxq 1070 laptops, well at least on mine. When you get the chance send over your data with pictures. Short and sweet but showing the issues. I know you have been a big contributor with all the data you have.. I just need to get it all in one place so I can forward it. Could be via PM or on this thread.

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I am looking for anyone that is experiencing power limit throttling on their Blade 15.. I may make a new thread about it but for now am posting this here. I need at the very least screens showing whats happening so I can collect data to forward to to the team. Thank you all in advance!

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I present to you Firebat's Blade 15! (144hz/i7-8750H)

GR8-RideSo now that I've had this system for over two weeks, I think I'm mostly done with the benchmarking / testing / tweaking side of it. I was running MSI Afterburner to see if I can squeeze some extra score in FS, but I realized that I wasn't really getting any better scores. With the stock (Razer) 389.04 drivers, I'm getting scores of 13,917 running stock config on my Blade 15 (no undervolt, no turbo boost limits, etc). I had noticed earlier on that I had gotten some scores into the mid 14,xxx (peak of 14,445) mark, but I've never been able to reproduce that score. MSI Afterburner, even running +160 Core (max I could get to run stable) and +699 Memory, I only got up to 13,940 on FS. So that leads me to believe there is some significant power throttling going on, if a significant overclock on Afterburner isn't getting me anything in FS or Heaven (Heaven, for some reason, still seemed to report stock Core / Memory speeds). While I have been tempted to go back to XTU to see

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JoikansaiDo you still have Blade 14 7700HQ? Since I don’t have it anymore, when I’m not wrong I didn’t hit 90 on that Blade, I played also Battlefield 1 and AC Origins on that. Yes you’re right I don’t have a plan repasting my Blade atm, don’t see great result yet, I think they do right job with cooling system now, stress test is fine on max 70ish only cpu temperature on games and maybe SSD on default are high wich can easily be done with thermal pad, though I’m too lazy doing that;) I don't exactly have it anymore.. I sold it to my best friend. He's not into all the benchmarking etc so it's not even like I could ask him to do it, haha.

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JoikansaiI see. Btw how Far Cry 5 runs now? It’s maybe because summer temperature over 30 here CPU now hits high 90ish, I hate looking at HWINFO now;) Though game runs fine, but I feel like i barbecuing my Blade lol:) Farcry 5, FFXIV, Battlefield 1, and Assassins Creed Origins all get to the 90s and sometimes hit 100c for me. I'm not even gonna bother repasting again.. stock vs Thermal Grizz was not worth it. The Graphite based paste Razer uses is actually pretty good. Unless you are gonna LM it (which we still haven't even seen great results from) I wouldn't even touch it.

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JoikansaiSo it’s marketing “throttling”;) who use only 4 cores in 6 cores cpu, I think no one, intel should marketing it 3,9 because casual user only use as it is and take a look at value that they advertised, or stated boost up to 4,1 on single core usage. Actually most games don't even utilize 6 cores.. they are only using 4. I tried disabling 2 of the cores to see if I could run 4ghz at 4.. but all 6 were still being "used".

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GR8-RideActually, I think it will only hit 4.1 GHz if you're running on two or less cores. Running 4 cores the boost max drops to 4.0 GHz. Patrick Yes you are correct lol sorry its 6 cores at 3.9, 4 cores at 4, and 1-2 cores at 4.1 I believe.

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telecasticfakeshowSo if they fix this issue, ideally we should be getting 3.9 GHz with all 6 cores running indefinitely (at 45 W TDP minimum) without any throttling right? The first blade 15 I got on late May had bad thermals (reaching 100 C) and severe power throttling on numerous tests despite undervolting. My current blade (manufactured July) on its first fire strike test got intermittent thermal throttling throughout and a power throttling spike just as the physics test portion ends, but out-of-the-box score is 14,158 with max CPU package temp of 95 C, max GPU temp of 73 C (already better than the undervolted first blade). It is summer and I don't have air conditioning so I guess it's not that bad? This is on synapse gaming mode at 5k rpm fans. Setting CPU core & cache to -133mV, speed shift to zero, GPU overclock (core +200, memory +600 MHz), I got improvements to score (14,718) and temperatures (max CPU package at 90 C, GPU at 70 C) and zero thermal/power throttling. Cinebe

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GR8-RideAhh, now I see what you're experiencing. I was just playing Doom for a bit (using my "Gaming" profile in Throttlestop). And I noticed that my CPU power draw never exceeded 36W. I forgot to check what my boost ratio was, but given the lower power draw, I'm pretty confident that it wasn't boosting up to 3.6 GHz (my peak turbo ratio under TS for my "Gaming" profile). Patrick I am actually getting a replacement Blade in the mail later today... mostly because of 3 stripped threads so my back panel wasn't being held on very well. I will let everyone know how performance is from this latest model. Also I know the Razer engineer team is working on the throttling issue so it's definitely not going unnoticed.

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hypoidgearFire Bat, are you still experiencing power limit throttling with your new unit? Both before and after the repaste? From your screenshot, it seems like you are getting power limit throttling when under load. Also were you able to maintain the 3.9GHz boost speed on all 6 cores under load with only 45W? I have the same power throttling issue as your previous unit, and I repasted it with kryonaut, but didn't solve the power limit throttling issue. Right now, my temps are excellent, but my long term power limit seems to be capped at 35W on Synapse Balanced mode and 45W on Gaming mode (which it should be 60W from XTU). My windows power setting is set to Balanced btw. With all 45W, my CPU doesn't boost past 3.2GHz. So do you think I should get my unit replaced? Anyone here has a workaround that doesn't involve locking the turbo boost multiplier? (I tried locking the multiplier in TPL page, but didn't affect the CPU clock speed, still doesn't go pass 3.2GHz). It seems like man

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nanias@Joikansai @Firebat246 what are your settings on XTU, video card software, Synapse and Windows? Also what are the temps you get playing modern AAA games with those settings and ambient temps? Cheers XTU I simply have the voltage undervolt at -0.135 and I just added thermal and power limit throttling to my monitor window for obvious reasons. Most AAA games I sit in the 70-80s for CPU. Off the top of my head the 3 games that reach 90s are Battlefield 1, Assassins Creed Origins, and once in a while Farcy 5. I keep my room at 68F. Synapse stays on gaming mode with fans set to max and windows always on balanced settings.

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GR8-RideYeah, I've ordered some thermal pads for my 970 EVO, as I did see temps on the drive get up to 74C when running Unigine Heaven for 60 straight minutes. One funny thing that I've noticed, most of my cores are running (-0.135v core/cache undervolt still) high 80s to low 90s (91C max) when stressing the system. However, one core (#2) seems to ramp up to 98C, even if the other cores are running 10C lower on average. HWINFO will report a thermal throttle on that single core. Performance results are otherwise quite good...just ran 6 back to back Cinebench tests: 1231 1222 1230 1212 1200 1229 So overall stability seems solid, and no significant issues with performance at all. Again, Cinebench shows solid results, and I'm getting pretty good results (and fairly consistent) with FS (low of 13,9xx and high of 14,4xx), and good results on Unigine Heaven (4241 on FHD, high quality, custom preset). I had been waiting to pick up the 4K version whenever it was released, largely beca

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Com34how did you get these scores on the just default setting? I have undervolted mine by -0.11 volts and its only getting 900 to 1000. So would you recommend applying a new thermal paste? I have some liquid metal left over from my previous project. My temps reading seems align with @Firebat246 and @Joikansai where doing some daily task would get 50-60 and heavier games would reach 80s to low 90s, and occasionally high 90s. What is your windows power setting at? Did you leave it on balanced? Aside from my repaste and undervolt I have not messed with anything else. My undervolt was done via XTU so it's a core/cache UV of -0.135. IF you are using TS make sure you UV the cache as well... as they are separate settings (XTU has them tied together).

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JoikansaiIt’s nice score 12xx, I always have 11xx cpu score in 6 times or more running cinebench, yes it always shows power limit throttling, I can shortage it by maxing turbo boost time to 96 second though, why there’s no longer option on intel XTU? I think when it has unlimited not max at 96, we can get rid from power limit throttling, only my theory though;) What Razer supports said btw about it, any progress? Is it for thermals reasons? I don’t see any performance drops on real world usage though, but maybe for video editors who are super busy and need to get their rendering works finished 1 or 2 minutes?...quicker it’s important. Or maybe for physical score on firestrike could reach 17K, I’m good actually with 16,xxK, but it’ll be nice to reach 17K:) I believe it is a premature power limit throttle put in place to keep thermals in check. There needs to be an EC update in order to fix it, as simply unlocking the Bios will not give you access to power limits.

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mrvortepGood scores - suggests it was stable at a high clock speed (no power limit throttling..?). Was this at stock settings (other than undervolt), or did you have throttlestops speed shift-epp set to zero? Yes totally stock settings just XTU up with the undervolt. Normally any power limit throttling will happen when both the GPU and CPU are stressed. However I have seen reviews and some Blades can't hold Cinebench scores and drop under 1000 after 1 or 2 runs.

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6 back to back cinebench scores with CPU undervolt of -0.135: 1223 1217 1228 1221 1214 1228

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Best keyboard I have used hands down... time to pass the Ornata Chroma to the GF. This thing SCREAMS premium.

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MannymalAnd I don't get 100c on Firestrike, I get it on long continuous gaming sessions. On Firestrike I peak around 90 I repasted with Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut. Dropped temps around 5c on the CPU. Makes a difference but not a huge one... believe it or not Razer actually uses a graphite based paste that's pretty good. These CPU's just get very hot across the board.

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StalkyreHmm. I’m concerned with how hot these things are running. What’s the product life of a laptop running in the high 90s if you game on them regularly? These CPU's are very good at withstanding high temps. Unless you are pegged at 100c most of the time you will be fine.

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JoikansaiI’m proud finally see Razer laptop on top 1070 and 8570H Firestrike benchmark :big_grin_::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye_::cool_::rolleyes: Hey hey it's cheating if you are using the core! Haha

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TimDoggCan I RMA it and have razer repaste the thermal? I never re-pasted only applied it to a new CPU and motherboard. Im very afraid to take it off and I don't want to void the warranty even though its one year since im hitting such high temps I tested D3 for you.. was usually sitting in the 70s sometimes low 80s for CPU temps. I feel like you just got a bad paste job there's no reason for your temps to be this high. Reach out to support and they should take care of you. Some games WILL hit 90+ and that's ok. But if you are getting super high temps all the time then something is wrong.

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TimDoggWell this is what Razer support has replied. They said hitting 100C is ok, What do you guys think? And was told to run this BIOS Update I was going to mention this.. but after some more research into the 8750H it is clear this CPU is absolutely capable of running in the 90s and even hitting 100c on occasion. It's not going to hurt it at all.. not even for long term use. The biggest issue I saw was the heat damaging components around it.. since that it much more likely to happen first. I have spoken with Razer about this and they are very confident that the other components will withstand the heat. The only thing I am working on currently is how to get the power limit taken care of. Thermals.. while you can improve them... are less of a concern as most people think.

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Dave picks number one!

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TimDoggextended warranty wasnt offered. where is advance power options? damn playing D3 right now and again hit 103 C after lower settings need to lower more I'll test diablo 3 later tonight and see what temps I'm getting.

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JoikansaiJust my curiosity, 190/200 is overclocking value core and memory like on afterburner right? Is it always should be like that or can you run with no OC both on memory and clock (0/0)? I think for some demanding games, OC could crash the game. Correct done through afterburner and it does not always have to be like that. You can run totally stock if you wish. Note that putting synapse on gaming mode will auto OC it to 100/300.

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