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Need some comparisons from Insiders who have REAL experience

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PT.Singer, Jan 13, 2017.

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  1. PT.Singer

    PT.Singer Jedi Master VANGUARD


    I am well aware that the threads where people ask for help with deciding between different pieces of Razer gear are answered with a "it's completely subjective". Heck, I'm even the person saying that much of the time.

    With the CES 2017 Fan Appreciation Sale in full effect, though, and being limited to a single item, I really need some input from those of you who have actually had some experience and time with some of the different items on offer in the Razer Store. With 50% off, and systems off the table, money really isn't an object, so I would like to know if people have any good comparisons with the below items.

    Headsets: Overwatch Razer Man O'War Tournament Edition, Razer Kraken Pro V2, Razer Blackshark. I am wondering about sound quality between the three (I've read about the different impedance and frequency response), as well as build quality and durability.

    Other Audio: Razer Leviathan, and Razer Leviathan Mini. Would a mini work as an adequate speaker system with a 42" TV, as there is only 3W difference/speaker in the bar? Or would the lack of a sub just kill it?

    I'll take any anecdotal experience on board as I make my decision (or at least prioritize) before the great sale.

    Thanks, fellow Insiders!
  2. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    I own both the Leviathan and the Leviathan Mini, and I don't think the mini is the best idea to be your only sound system for a desktop PC. I used it when I traveled as my only speaker, but I have the regular Leviathan with sub hooked up to my desktop PC when I'm at home, and I most definitely prefer that.

    As for headsets, that one really is more subjective - mostly because the bands/ear cups feel different for each person after hours of game play and people value different sounds in the games and media. So, personally, I'm absolutely in love with my Tiamat 7.1 headset, which is what I use when we all hook up as Insiders to play Overwatch. (which is what I just left, actually. lol) I believe it sounds great and none of the guys have complained about how I sound. But from what I gather, each level of headphones within the Razer family seems to boost different levels of bass vs treble, so that's where personal preferences really come in.
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  3. PT.Singer

    PT.Singer Jedi Master VANGUARD

    I was looking at the Tiamat, but didn't include it in the choices because I need my headset to be non-USB (and because it isn't in stock in the US or APAC stores). I just took a look at it again, and watched the "How to hook up your Tiamat 7.1 . . ." video. Is the USB for power only? I want to be able to use it at work with some home-made adaptors, too, so if there's any kind of mandatory audio processing via USB — as with the other USB-only headsets — then it's an automatic pass for me.

    As far as the earcups, if I went with the Kraken Pro V2, or the Overwatch Man O'Wars, I'd have to get the oval ones (I measured my ears).

    I know that the Blackshark's earcups would be comfortable for me, and looks to have a solid build except that the connection for the mic is plastic and could wear easily. I want the Overwatch Man O'War to get my Razer Overwatch collection to 75%, but it doesn't look to be as solid as the Kraken Pro or the Blackshark. I like the Kraken Pro V2's simple look and aluminum band over the Man O'War's.

    I wish that the headphones had some frequency response charts, so I could see some actual testing data on them, instead of just "Frequency response: 20Hz-20kHz". That would tell me so much more.

    Thanks @kajira for the feedback regarding the Leviathan options.
  4. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    I agree with this statement completely!
    I think if people knew their preferred ranges and and had an idea of where certain headsets perform on the charts then it could be quite useful for them to help decide what would work best for them. Definitely a tool to help make decisions.

    As for the Tiamat, yes, the USB is for power. All of the sound is processed through the 3.5mm jacks for each channel/direction. :)

    My pleasure on the Leviathan choices, I love both of mine but I definitely view them as two tools for different jobs.
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  5. PT.Singer

    PT.Singer Jedi Master VANGUARD

    If you're not using the controller, can the headset be used without USB? I guess it's kind of a moot point, since both Tiamats are out of stock in both of the stores that I would try ordering from, but for future reference?

    For the sale, I will probably end up getting the Leviathan. If that's out of stock, then I'll get further on my Overwatch Razer collection with the Overwatch Man O'War TE. It will definitely probably not be sturdy enough for me to take to gigs for TD work (and yellow), so I'll probably just use a ModMic on my re-padded Sennheiser 280 HD Pros for my own personal headset . . . and then put some Razer stickers on them and paint some of the trim Razer green.

    I hope that Razer partners up with an audio company in the future for some Pro Audio/Gaming Razer headset goodness.
  6. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    Honestly, I don't know - I can play with it at a later time to see what happens, though. I would imagine that the headset itself requires the power to function in addition to the control box, but I can't say with 100% certainty until I mess around with it. I'm just not in a position to do so right at this moment.

    I think pretty much all of their headsets are ideal for gaming, and they are at heart purely a gaming company. So, I don't see the point in partnering up with any other company for headsets that are geared to anything other than gaming -such as the pro audio, movies, music, etc. :)
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  7. PT.Singer

    PT.Singer Jedi Master VANGUARD

    Except for this: Screen Shot 2017-01-16 at 10.05.11.png
    Taken from this article. ;)
  8. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    @PTSinger Very cool - I knew that they acquired THX, and I can see the move into the home theatre genre, especially with so many console / couch gamers these days. :)

    It'll be interesting if that then eventually includes moving into other varieties of headsets for different specialties as well. Definitely worth watching to see what happens over the next years.
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  9. ThirdDegreePun

    ThirdDegreePun Well-Known Member

    I ended up caving and buying the Razer Blade BEFORE the sale because I need it ASAP and I decided the Leviathan Mini sounds really useful...although I got an email today saying they're on backorder which could be a spanner in the works...definitely wasn't limited stocks when I ordered last night..

    But yeah I heard really good reviews of the Mini, sounds perfect for me to show off my Audio Work to multiple people when on the go and away from my speakers etc.

    I'll be annoyed though if I could have got the Mini + the $400 of extras by using the code and it ships pretty much the same time as it would have :/

    But yeah I heard great things about both the Leviathans, which is surprising because I was fairly bitterly disappointed with the Kraken Mobiles, I know they're the cheapest headphones Razer makes pretty much, but still they were priced well above other ones I have which have far superior sound. Ah well.
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