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A few questions on the Razer Phone

Discussion in 'Mobile' started by dabigpotato, Nov 22, 2017.

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  1. dabigpotato

    dabigpotato Member

    Ok, I've been dreaming about the Razer Phone ever since I became a fan of Razer, and now that it's finally here, it makes me sad that I have some concerns about it. There's really only 3 things total, and none of them are that big, and I don't known the phone yet so these are all issues that I know about through others and reviews. One, the camera. I've heard some people saying it's goo, other's saying it's ok, and some, most recently MKBHD, saying that it's flat out awful to the point of being a legit dealbreaker. I really hope this isn't the case, I have a 6s now so I'm not user to camera's like the iPhone X or the Note8, but I really hope it's better than people are saying it is and if you can add some pics you've taken with it so I can see that'd be really cool. Next, the vibration motor. This I had heard could be better from some reviews, but it wasn't till I watched MKBHD's video today and heard it that I was actually worried. I'm hoping it was just a preproduction issue since he got his early and that it's been solved, but it really sounded like the motor was just sitting in the phone, not held down at all. Watch his video if you don't know that I mean. Last, this is real small, but the buttons. I've that they aren't great and while this isn't a huge issue for me I still want to know if they're any good.
     
  2. Kungpaoshizi

    Kungpaoshizi Active Member

    When I got a lumia 1520, the camera was junk. After they reworked the app after 6 months, it was amazing.
    From what I've heard the Razer has the same camera sensor as what was in the s7? Look at reviews of the s7. (I'm positive they'll improve it)

    The haptic feedback motor, which I've seen 3 or 4 folks (including that reviewer) say sounds like that in the vid, I have seen an equal number say it's fine. I personally have access to two phones and neither has the issue.

    And the buttons are a different style than what I'm used to, but they feel pretty good. I guess time will tell but they don't feel cheap or weak, etc.

    I myself bought an s8, sucked. Was considering the pixel 2xl, then Razer had the announcement. Blown away, ordered asap. Got one, have crackle in the speakers (customer service has been great, RMA was little hassle, prepaid label) still completely floored by how awesome it is.
     
  3. BlutigEisbar

    BlutigEisbar Active Member

    MKNHD's life is made from video/photo content thus why the camera is a deal breaker for him. As a photographer I have a iPhone X and will not be giving it up for the first gen Razer Phone unless I am gifted one but I do have daily access to a Razer Phone. The camera is not bad. Honest. It's just not $1000 phone good and I wouldn't expect it to be. It is sharp enough and fast enough for everyday users. Only those who really really need high quality photos will complain vs other devices.

    The buttons are fine. I see no issues with them and not sure why people are hating on them.

    The haptic motor was the only thing I haven't tested on the Razer Phone. MKBHD's video was a little scary but like @Kungpaoshizi said I don't think this is a common or really an issue to begin with.
     
  4. Cpt_Disappointment

    Cpt_Disappointment Well-Known Member

    no phone is perfect, yo. Let's break it down:
    camera: if you're comparing things on the internet, for sure you'll get the dilemma. But if u bite your tongue and hold your breath, buy the thing, use it, take picture with it, you'll realize it's not that much different. We're not taking about old samsung S2 vs S8 here, we're talking about 2017-launch smartphone. so stop comparing and start to embracing
    motor: that is weird, but should it bother u that much? can u hold onto that for long term?
    buttons: what's the issue with those buttons?

    for a smartphone with such features for that price tag, it's good, man. Like I mentioned, if you start seeing the good side of it, you'll start to love and want to buy it. Stop comparing. Look for reasons to buy.
     
  5. dabigpotato

    dabigpotato Member

    Thanks to everyone who responded, it sounds like the reviews I've seen are exaggerating it's flaws if you're all right. And for the buttons, I heard they were really spongy and just all around bad, not a huge issue for me but still something that I think could affect the experience depending on how bad they really are
     
  6. Kungpaoshizi

    Kungpaoshizi Active Member

    I just think it's not even comparable to recent phones. Other than the 835 snapdragon, every other phone has very similar specs. The differences that stand out are held by the Razer phone.

    It's like comparing laptops and tablets. They're all the same, more or less, but then you get your hands on the triple screen Razer laptop, none of the others really compare anymore. It's like that. :)
     
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  7. SexGhost

    SexGhost New Member

    The camera is fine if you use the GCam_4.4 app which is fast, sharper, and more natural. The built-in app is slow and weird as in it overly processes color leaving banding. Also, I noticed only one of the rear cameras is in use, which seems different from review units. I don't know if it has to be specially enabled or if Razer deliberately disabled it, but it's false advertising until it works!

    As I do photo & video work with a mirrorless camera, I don't think any phone cameras are very good. Even did hands on with the Pixel 2 XL this weekend at my house and the cam is okay but not that impressive by at least my own standards, and not a leap by any means.

    I think if you use GCam for now, it's all good. The cam is the same in the Samsung 7, so there are limits to its improvement, but I honestly don't think there's much improvements in other phone cameras. Razer needs to update its camera app to be less automatic and less processed. A fully manual deal would be way better to start, and I want to manually switch between the cameras with ZERO digital zoom. I'll just crop or resize it myself, or maybe add a post edit to do it. Another thing is HDR seems to use the flash, which I'm sure is better, but not discreet. Would be nice to have an option.

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    My vibration sounds fine with a vibration testing app. It's a lower buzz hum (deepness) than the lighter buzz in my other phone. It doesn't grind like in the MKBHD review video.

    As for buttons, I don't review a lot of phones, so I can't say how good or bad it is. A button is a button. They click when I push them. They're better than the buttons on an iPhone 4, which are more mushy.

    So if these issues are mainly random, you'd be gambling on it, I suppose.

    My issue is that my thumb covers the front camera while playing in landscape, so it affects the auto brightness, so I just set it manually.
     
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  8. Kungpaoshizi

    Kungpaoshizi Active Member

    Is that concrete or plastic?
    The pic on the right looks plastic, the pic on the left looks concrete.
    I am surprised the color is richer on the left. Look at the red on the ladder and then look at the brown mulch, green grass.
    Idk, overall the pic on the left looks more real, though I'm not sure if it's lifelike as I can't see it in person.. :D

    Thanks for the write-up though, love seeing more detailed info. :)
     
  9. Love46patel

    Love46patel Active Member

    Camera will be fixed by a software update.......i m sure.... they will do it
     
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  10. godashram

    godashram Active Member

    there was a camera update today...
     
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