Apple vs. Razer

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Parthluthra, Sep 16, 2016.

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  1. Ridha_Baqshi

    Ridha_Baqshi Active Member

    Actually I misjudged Razer's customer service! They offered me a replacement laptop, but I asked them if I could get a store credit instead so I can get the new Razer Blade GTX 1060, and they actually agreed to do that :)
    I'm very excited to get the new one once it's available!
  2. Roialblood

    Roialblood New Member

    you guys have big dreams indeed , I can hardly get a damn pc , yet you wish for epic gaming setups XD :)))

    (edited for language)
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  3. TheGurgeMan7

    TheGurgeMan7 Well-Known Member

    Dude, please censor yourself, its a family friendly site.

    Also you dont need alot of money for a gaming setup. 700 bucks will get you a nice rig that can run alot of stuff.
  4. DarkTaninfodaily772

    DarkTaninfodaily772 New Member

    the razer synapse sierra compatibility thread has been locked without explanation!

    ppl can´t report if their stuff is working or not.

    and the way it looks the early update that was supposed to resolve the sierra fiasco hasn´t resolved random kernel panics, random reboots, misbehaving scroll wheels and button configurations.
  5. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    They said they would get an update out by the 1st of October, but in Razer time that is likely 2-3 weeks after.
  6. DarkTaninfodaily772

    DarkTaninfodaily772 New Member

    they released the/an update earlier.
  7. TK-1987

    TK-1987 Well-Known Member

    Well that's interesting. Maybe they realize they need to improve their customer service. This is good to know.
  8. RoastierThanToastier

    RoastierThanToastier Active Member

    Get the Razer Blade as it is quite a bit more powerful than Apple products and if you really want to you can get a warranty on it incase it breaks. (I'm pretty sure)
  9. mitraanu

    mitraanu New Member

    Get the RAZER .... test it like crazy and file RMA's if required till you end up with the right machine..... i just got the RBS and am heavily testing it now if i find issues i will return..
    so far this machine rocked... some people may have had lemons i dont see an issue at this time however i am extra carefull with this.
  10. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Lol this thread's title is a bit misleading. I saw a lot of Insider regulars post here so I'll chip in as well. Disclaimer: I'm an Apple hater and love Razer, so be warned that what I'm about to say might be a bit biased towards the latter.

    Honestly, this is a bad question. I don't mean to offend you, but asking something like this reveals how little you understand your own needs and priorities. We can't help you much either because you know you more than we know you.

    You are comparing a machine catered towards students, hipsters, and creative professionals to one made for gamers by gamers. Their 512GB configuration specs confirm this:

    Macbook Pro 13 (estimates based off their current line): Dual-Core i5 Skylake | 16GB RAM | 10 Hours Battery Life | 2560 x 1600 (227 PPI) 13" IPS Screen

    Razer Blade: Nvidia GTX 1060 | Quad-Core i7 Skylake | 16GB RAM | 6 Hours Battery Life | 3200 x 1800 (300 PPI) 14" IGZO Screen | RGB Keyboard | Core Connectivity

    As you can see, these two laptops target different users. Macbooks have specs made for productivity while the Blade is built for gaming. A more logical comparison would be Macbook Pro 13 vs Blade Stealth.

    So the answer is simple - ask yourself: How important is gaming to me? They are both productivity machines that get work done (although the Blade is faster), so it all comes down to how important the ability to run graphically intense games is to you.

    Of course, the other factor is Customer Service. A lot of people here have said that Razer CS sucks but personally, I think they're alright. 4 out of 5 times I contact them we reach a resolution within 5 days. Of course there's a lot of room for improvement, but we're talking about a small billion dollar company vs a $600 billion corporate giant that could buy Razer a hundred times over.

    Well guys, I'd have to disagree. The Blade isn't meant to be used like a desktop PC where you just sit at home and game on it for many hours on end (although it's certainly capable of this). The Blade is super thin and light and powerful for a reason - airports, planes, hotels, libraries, dorms, coffee shops, cafes, trains, etc. It's meant to be a solution for people who want to do serious gaming on the go.

    However, that's not to say it's not capable of at-home gaming. It certainly is, but for that purpose you should plug into desktop peripherals and a monitor for a better experience. The Core adds even more power and makes the whole process even easier - plug one cable in and you have desktop performance.

    I also disagree with the "lack of hardware and specs" comment. If your tower is faster than an i7-6700HQ + Core equipped with GTX Titan X or 1080, fine. But I'd be willing to bet most custom builds aren't that powerful. Even Nvidia realizes that the gap between mobile and desktop performance is closing so they got rid of their "M" mobile chips and just combined them into a single line. Price/performance ratio - sure, desktop wins hands down. But when it comes to pure performance, laptops aren't trailing by far.

    LOL I love you.
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  11. OneWithSeb

    OneWithSeb New Member

    Get razer. Just trust me
  12. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    The gap between laptops and desktops is certainly getting smaller for gaming at least, for Uni students the requirement of having a separate machine for gaming is becoming less of a requirement (unless you get a Mac). It is quite unfortunate that Apple isn't using their resources to build a powerful computer, given that a MBP is larger and thicker than a Blade yet is horrendously underpowered and will continue to be with the upcoming generation. Apple clearly is no longer committed to computers, but instead focuses on their mobile segment, which is fair enough since it generates the greatest amount of profit. Indeed, they tout the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement (it isn't, I have one). However, I see no reason why they can't focus on producing a decently powered computer. It is clear though at this point and in the foreseeable future Macs will not be able to compete.

    This is good news for us though, the more people that switch from Macs to Blades (a very likely switch since they have similar price points and build quality) the greater amount of money Razer will have to focus on being more consumer friendly and catering towards the average user, thereby creating a better experience for us all.
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  13. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member


    I guess they figure the majority of their target users don't need the extra power. I mean they obviously could make a gaming laptop, and dare I say better than Razer...but I can't see it happening because it wouldn't fit their current image.

    The sad truth that rings true even for the gaming industry.

    LOL. I'm a big Surface fan. Have you heard about the crap they give Microsoft? They were joking the Surface would never be successful because you can't combine a toaster with a refrigerator and expect a pleasant user experience (referring to the combination of a touchscreen tablet and a laptop PC). Then they released their penless iPad Pro w/ its keyboard which everybody said was a Surface clone lol.

    The Mac Pro is pretty beefy, albeit using mobile components and looking like a trash bin.

    Couldn't have said it better myself :)
  14. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    Quite interestingly long time Apple users in the Macbook Pro section of MacRumors were discussing the 1060 Blade and how despite its size it is vastly more powerful than a MBP. Many are considering switching and many have, clearly a mistake from Apple because once you get a Blade it would be hard to go back to MBP with Polaris. I think it wasn't just AMD consumers that got cheated with Polaris, Apple was probably expecting a GPU with decent performance when compared to NVIDIA, but recent job postings show that NVIDIA and Apple are working on something together so there may still be hope yet. Once again though alienating the "Pro" community is likely not the best move since Pro users are likely to buy products more often and spend more on upgrades as opposed to the average user who is happy with an Ultrabook.
  15. PT.Singer

    PT.Singer Jedi Master VANGUARD

    Yes, your bias is definitely showing here.:smile_:
    There is no way that a MacBook Pro is actually catered toward students, as evidenced by the price tag. Get a suitable PC that will do all of the stuff the average student needs for half the price.

    Creative professionals, yes, but that is only furthered by the people who make real software for creative professionals. If the same creative software was either made for PC, as well, or as good on the PC versions, then it would be a no-brainer, as PC equivalent machines are much cheaper.

    Unfortunately, the hipster thing is true, but it's also a self-perpetuating label. Apple was the machine for creative professionals, and that is why the hipster crowd was drawn to it: they either were creative types, or wanted to be seen as creative types. It's just a sad happenstance that made the hipster crowd get somehow tied in with the Apple brand. Apple used to be for the loners, Dottie, the rebels (yes, that's a Pee Wee reference). Now it's a very conformist brand, which is not something that should be a "hipster" thing . . . except that being a hipster is a very conformist thing as well, now. Sort of like how (if you're a Californian, you'll know what I'm talking about) KROQ was alternative music, and now it's just pop music; a certain kind of pop music, but pop music nonetheless. The Dead Kennedys were a punk band, but as soon as they got popular, their real fans beat the crap out of Jello Biafra chanting "Punk is dead!" That's what needs to happen with Apple. They need to get the junk beaten out of them with people shouting "Individuality is dead!", and maybe they'll go back to being the high-quality, individualistic brand that they used to be.

    Ok, I kind of went off on a tangent there, but the point is - you got 2 out of 3 right. ;)
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  16. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    I would argue it is catered to the average consumer (including hipsters and students) as opposed to creative professionals. The problem is that devs that focus of iOS and MacOS development have to use MacOS, which can only be reliably done by getting a Mac, therefore they have no choice but to get a Mac. Many would prefer not to, especially as things currently stand with the Mac Pro not having an update since 2013 and the Macbook Pro not being updated since Early 2015 (with a CPU from 2013 and a GPU from 2012). The average consumer is not aware of these intricate details, nor do they really care, the same cannot be said for creative professionals.
  17. brony.self

    brony.self Member


    Dude just get razer. they give you all kinds of support and discounts and all this other good stuff just for getting involved.

    Also there tech is absolutley amazing
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  18. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I should have been more clear. I meant they are catered towards students of higher education. That was my experience at least. I was the only person in my entire class that didn't have a Macbook Air or Pro during my final years at the University. After that, I went to grad school and there were about 2 or 3 more people in the class that didn't have a Macbook + iPhone combo. I didn't mean for middle schoolers or anything, that was a long time ago for me :yum:.

    Perhaps you are right. Maybe Apple does not directly cater Macbooks towards students, but when/where I went to school, you could not avoid them. This photo Razer posted sums up what I'm trying to say pretty well; an uncanny resemblance to those dreadful days:

    Thank you. I really couldn't have said it better myself. It got to the point where being hipster meant conforming. That is one of the reasons I have abstained from Apple products for so long - I was big on the whole non-conformist anti-drone mentality thing for a while. I think one day the same will happen to gaming. Gamers, who were once the rebels and outcasts of society, will become mainstream. It will be the kids playing outside or working out at the gym that aren't conforming.
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  19. icharico

    icharico Member

    Razer for usability and gaming, and apple for style and ease-of-use.
  20. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    Apart from Pokemon Go:big_grin_:
    I would say the Blade is pretty stylish.
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