Confused by what is an "okay" temperature

Discussion in 'Systems' started by Mossontree, Jan 8, 2017.

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  1. I'll keep this short and sweet because you guys have gotten this thread about a million times. I bought a late 2016 blade 1060 late last week. I've been reading around the forum for a short while trying to find out what an okay temperature for the cpu is under max load. Some are saying after gaming for a couple hours theyre max temp for their cpu is 75c, some are saying its 90c, both times it seems that this is totally normal. My question is, with the cpu under full load what is a SAFE and CORRECT temperature for the blade to be at? I'll upload a picture. Ignore the min temp, i reset it halfway through the test because I was trying different surfaces. Do I need to RMA this?
     

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  2. sorry, forgot to mention. This is after me running p95 for about 10-15 min. cool setting on in synapse, high performance power option. my idle temps are around 30c-35c depending on ambient temp and surface.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2017
  3. Splo0sh

    Splo0sh New Member

    Okay, first of all, this cannot be answered easily due to a lot of variables. But if you just consider the Intel 6700HQ CPU, the maximum allowed temperature is 100°C/212°F at the processor die. This is where you would really hurt it, but you will never get there since the CPU would throttle down before reaching temperatures which could harm the CPU.
    Still, high temperatures can degrade materials quicker compared to lower temps. If you encounter this lifetime span differences is another question. My old intel core2duo notebook almost always reaches 94°C under load all the time and it still keeps rocking after almost 9 years of heavy use ;)

    Last but not least, keep in mind, that your common CPU load is not 100% prime95, right?! :) even heavy CPU dependent games won't constantly use 100% load like prime does!

    To put it in a nutshell. There are temperature safeguards so you basically cannot harm your CPU by overheating. Theoretically the cooler it runs the longer the lifetime of the CPU is (I personally don't think you will ever have notebook long enough to see the CPU dying because of material degradation).

    I don't know if that helps you, but it's not like your notebook will die next month because it sometimes reaches 94°C. It's within Intel's specifications for that CPU.

    Cheers.
     
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  4. PlatinumC

    PlatinumC Active Member

    Another question is, how warm it gets under your hands. I have not handled this laptop, so I don't know how well the heat dissipation is built.
    The first laptop I ever bought had GPU temps on 100-110C for 3-4 years before it died.
    But keeping the CPU under 90C should not reduce the lifespan.

    Edit - and P95 is the most stressful tester of them all.
     
  5. JETcoolCoolBlack681

    JETcoolCoolBlack681 Active Member

    Well, there should be nothing to degrade at 100C or at even higher temperatures on the motherboard. Otherwise it will smell like a plastic being burned. The real problem are heating-cooling cycles which is likely the reason why first @PlatinumC 's laptop died.
     
  6. fibrefox

    fibrefox New Member

    @Mossontree

    What temperature was your SSD installed inside your system? I'm curious about that (even started the question in a different thread).
     
  7. Splo0sh

    Splo0sh New Member

    Absolutely correct @marching_cow! I meant more on a structural integrity kind of level over a long period of time, which concerns longevity way beyond the time for what we use these things for :)
     
  8. PlatinumC

    PlatinumC Active Member

    Aye, that was the reason. I had a rarer type of laptop with MXM II GPU's, so it was fixable.
     
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  9. Hadesgatee

    Hadesgatee Active Member

    Prime95 is a great tool to seriously stress test your cpu temps.
    What i noticed when using p95 is that around 10 minutes a different test start that stresses your cpu even more( my experience) had temps of 76, than close to 97 (at which point i stopped the test)

    With gaming your teamperatures will never be similiar to the p95 ones.
    Some people argue that a cpu temp of 70-79 is ideal, however laptop temps tend to be a bit higher.

    In short your Prime95 temps give the wrong temperatures. check your temps during gaming. if they are between 70 and 90, you should be fine. Ofcouse the top part of 90 is not desirable but you can have spikes.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2017
  10. PlatinumC

    PlatinumC Active Member

    Just nitpicking here, but desktop temps at 70-80 while being 100% safe, they are not ideal.
    I my temps stay under 70C with P95, and 40-50C while gaming.
    I do have a watercooler, but it's a budget one, and a cheap air cooler gives same temps (like Evo 212).

    However, as I mentioned - just nitpicking, so feel free to ignore my post.
     
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  11. Hadesgatee

    Hadesgatee Active Member

    I do not see this as nitpicking :) i see this as another proof that temperatures vary greatly when using different cooling techniques. Wether it is on a PC or on a laptop.
    I must say that watercooling (often) does make a difference in cooling and i believe it is not applicable in a Razer blade... Well in general that is.
     
  12. PlatinumC

    PlatinumC Active Member

    Yeah of course a high end water cooler will always beat any air cooling, but my point more was, that my temps are super low, but not thanks to watercooling, as same temps can be done on air too.
    The only benefit you will get from "same" range aircooling vs liquid, is that aircooling will be affected by ambient temperatures.
     
  13. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Hey PlatC you seem to be knowledgeable about cooling. I'm actually very curious about liquid-coolers. Will high end liquid cooling always beat any type of heatsink/fan combination? Are those all-in-one units that have the waterblock/radiator/pump/fans all ready to go in a sealed set any good? Wondering if you can give an example of how much of a temperature difference can be achieved with a top end liquid cooler vs top end air cooler.
     
  14. PlatinumC

    PlatinumC Active Member

    I am not really that familiar with them, but as much as I know.
    AIO liquid coolers, like I have, are around the same level as high end air coolers.
    But building better liquid coolers than AIO are definitely better than high end air cooling.
     
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