Razer Core + Nvidia 1080

Discussion in 'Systems' started by Hellsend, Aug 19, 2016.

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  1. TarekHadwa

    TarekHadwa Member

    I need to know if anyone has any proof/benchmarks (I would greatly appreciate an official answer if possible) if connecting a mouse, keyboard, Ethernet, etc to Razer Core while having a Nvidia 1080 gtx will decrease the performance of the video card (consume bandwith/reduce ingame fps).

    Thank you
     
  2. JeremyLWK

    JeremyLWK Active Member

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  3. qyuburt

    qyuburt Active Member

    You apparently lose a good chunk of power with the 1080, although its still better than the 970M.

    If the Blade gets a 1060, however, then its gonna be fantastic. In saying that though the Core is more designed for the Stealth.
     
  4. MACNA

    MACNA Member

    You will have a performance decrease. But it is not a big one. It's around 10%
     
  5. VR gaming gets more noticeable loss and also game crashes due to extra latency and driver "timeouts". I have to run TDR at 10 to alleviate driver crashes in VR applications so latency equates to loss more than the 10%+ in raw frames.

    Doesn't matter what card the issues persist on both Rift and Vive. Currently running a 1080 in my core along with blade 2016.
     
  6. MACNA

    MACNA Member

    You're right. But don't forget that VR and the thunderbolt GPU idea are just to start. I think in the upcoming months there will be more driver support and therefore it will have less of a performance impact. Hope they are going to get some better connections in the upcoming blades. Such as dual thunderbolt going to the core maybe.
     
  7. Really wish I could figure it out, even with TdrDelay at 16 seconds (default windows is 2) I still occasionally get the "driver stopped responding, recovered successful", and now I have to wait a really long time while PC hangs out in what you would think is locked up mode until it recovers that (no keyboard response, ctrl+alt+del, etc.). Seems to really be giving me a hard time playing "Edge of Nowhere" on the Rift, seemed pretty solid before the Anniversary update. Core has a GTX 1080 installed, latest 372.54 drivers now.

    I'm able to play Raw Data nonstop so it's just friggen picky.
     
  8. Meccanica

    Meccanica New Member

    My Core is on the way shortly. How do you guys feel about a slightly overclocked 1070 to split the difference between the 1060 and 1080? I normally buy higher end to get longer life out of products, but if there is no performance advantage in the core going with the 1080 I don't mind saving a couple dollars.

    Also given the chassis does not have other components generating heat like a hot i7 am I safe to assume the chassis should do a good job with cooling so I can clock a bit higher?
     
  9. TyMcLean

    TyMcLean Active Member

    Are you planning on using the internal monitor, or an external?
    I have a couple videos on YouTube of the difference between a GTX 1080, and a GTX 980. I can grab a GTX 1070 and have some results in a couple days. I only have the RBS though, so if you're using the Blade 14, you'll see an increase in CPU bound games.
    Let me know if you want links or me to review a GTX 1070 in the Core.
     
  10. Meccanica

    Meccanica New Member

    Thanks man My setup is as follows:
    Razer Blade (2016)
    External ASUS ROG PG279 (2560x1440)
    Razer Core

    Trying to figure out if there any real gains going with the 1080, or if I should just run an overclocked 1070 because you get them so much cheaper.
     
  11. TyMcLean

    TyMcLean Active Member

    Well, there's a difference in performance between the GTX 980 and GTX 1080 in the Core, just as there would be in a desktop.
    I would suggest acting like it's a desktop rig, and purchase accordingly.
    Running that ROG is going to be amazing with either card, so it's really if you just want to save some money.
     
  12. Meccanica

    Meccanica New Member

    Well it's hard because it's bound to the thunderbolt spec/speed. So my question is the 1070 vs 1080. I'm thinking the 1080 might be able to handle more than the bus can while the 1070 may be the sweet spot at 300 less.
     
  13. TyMcLean

    TyMcLean Active Member

    Well, I'll see if I can't get a GTX 1070 this weekend(from a friend's rig, forgot to mention that earlier), and I'll see if it's noticeably different, and worth the extra cash.
     
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  14. I've got a Stealth+Core+EVGA 1070 FTW and I have been less than impressed so far.

    Here's a FireStrike run using the Stealth with 1070:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/14697095

    Here's a FireStrike run using my i7-6850K (6 Cores @ 4.3Ghz)+ the same 1070 in a desktop:
    http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9673836

    The Core was a neat idea back in February before Nvidia launched the Pascal mobile GPU's. Today it's pointless. Just buy a Blade with GTX 1060 for less money and waaaay better performance.
     
  15. Meccanica

    Meccanica New Member

    Is this because the Thunderbolt interface was saturated? Also is this a Blade Stealth? It only shows 8GB Ram
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2016
  16. ManiacMagic

    ManiacMagic New Member

    were you on external or internal display?

    Was this internal or external display?
     
  17. ManiacMagic

    ManiacMagic New Member

    the graphics score isn't that bad the physics score kills you vs a 6 core chip ... im wondering how the newer 7500u will change these results
     
  18. ManiacMagic

    ManiacMagic New Member

    still under a 980ti on desktop ... thats surprises me, expected the 980ti and 1070 or 1080 to be comparable in a core.
     
  19. Meccanica

    Meccanica New Member

    So I have a Blade 2016 (not stealth) with a FTW 1070 and an ASUS ROG 27. Benchmark scores are pretty disappointing and overall my experiences with the core have been lackluster.

    I wonder why when using the GPU switcher you are not able to leverage both GPU's (Internal and External) maybe that would help a bit reducing thunderbolt saturation.
     
  20. TarekHadwa

    TarekHadwa Member

    that would be great, leave the dedicated internal gpu to manage physx and the external one in the core for the rest.
     
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