Blade 2016 Preorder Shipment Delay

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by xstefanx, Mar 28, 2016.

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  1. Well before you get too excited, only high 20s-30ish. And that was in 1080p, (external, not the XPS's screen). So- not exactly future-proof... some would say, not even "current-proof".
     
  2. BluesnBlazin

    BluesnBlazin Member

    The only information you seem to be offering is, "Shipping delays are Bogus...lets all criticize Razer for making us wait for our awesome new toy! They are such a horrible company, yet I can't get off their forums wishing I had their laptop right now...so until I do, I am going to put them down as much as possible (even though I have no clue what is actually going on) and get as many people as I can to riot with me until I get the laptop."
     
  3. BluesnBlazin

    BluesnBlazin Member

    And you will overpay for subpar specs...what is your point again?
     
  4. 9377519279

    9377519279 Active Member

    Well on the positive side Computex is scheduled June 3rd- June 7th. This is event I forsee them giving us an indicator on mobile pascal. If they ship the blades out on the 15th you are still going to be in your 30 day return window when the pascal announcement hits. So you can look at it as a forced win for you. You will get a Razer Blade and if something better is announced you will be able to change your mind if you like the new product better that is announced at Computex.
     
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  5. BluesnBlazin

    BluesnBlazin Member

    They will release an updated statement soon, I am sure of it (Sometime in the next week). But it won't be on the weekend and they don't actually owe you a single explanation. The fact that you feel entitled to such an explanation is just another example of American Ignorance. We all think our problems are the only ones to exist. Just live your damn life until they ship it, you will be fine.

    The fact of the matter is none of us knows the whole story...but those of you who are getting mad about this clearly don't understand a single bit of the manufacturing process. If you are trying to argue that shipping dates should never change, then you have already lost the argument because this is not at all realistic, and if you can't see that, it means you don't have the ability to be realistic...Sorry to be the one to break it to you. You should be fine, though, just go ahead, put your space helmet back on, and continue thinking that the world revolves around your first world problems.
     
  6. TheGurgeMan7

    TheGurgeMan7 Well-Known Member

    I like how you blame his impatience on "American Ignorance." Thats fairly racist, and you are stereotying a lot of people unfairly.

    What we want is for the company to be well informed enough on their products, so that they know when it will be shipped, as many people base their lives around the shipping date. They may need it for a critical presentation, an essay, or their old computer broke down and they need a new one to continue with their productivity. When a company lies to its customers about a shipping date, it hurts both the customers and the company.

    Dont stereotype.
     
  7. webOldLacesolo800

    webOldLacesolo800 New Member

    Is that what you seriously think?

    Businesses don't owe their customers(you know, the people paying them for their products) explanations for shipping delays?

    You realize that Razer is making money out of this arrangement right? They aren't producing these products out of the goodness of their hearts.

    Your tone seems to imply that they are graciously allowing us to buy from them so we should be thankful we get the chance! Like they don't have a vested interest in selling their products...
     
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  8. 9377519279

    9377519279 Active Member

    Yea we should all be so grateful that we pay Razers salaries.
     
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  9. BluesnBlazin

    BluesnBlazin Member

    You are assuming they are lying, when they aren't. Being bad at estimating is not lying. And I am American and see it all the time. Americans only consider their situation and problems and expect the world to revolve around them. Sure it is a stereotype, but some stereotypes are true, and this is one of those times where the generalization isn't unfounded. I can attest that you are inside that stereotype as you are the one getting mad about all this, even though you haven't even ordered this. If this laptop is that important to your schedule, then you are a fool for not buying something already. You are putting all your apples in one basket, then you want to blame Razer when that basket breaks? If you need a laptop that bad, then you shouldn't be preordering one. While it would be nice to have the laptop shipped on time, shit happens. Stop getting mad at Razer because you are a poor life planner and are bad at anticipating unforeseen issues. Again, American ignorance at its best. Please tell me again how Razer is responsible for getting you a laptop in time for the important events in your life? I mean, they took your money already, right? No? Well, it seems to me that everything was still in your hands. So your only issue is that things didn't work out like you hoped so you just HAVE to have someone to blame, right? Again, American Ignorance. It isn't stereotyping when it is true, and in the case of most the complainers in this thread, yes, it is indeed true! I even have symptoms of "American Ignorance" but I actively try to catch myself and look at things objectively, but I am obviously in the minority here. I am sure 99% of the people in this thread probably hate me right now, but that is because angry people don't like to have people disagree with their anger. They want everyone to pad their egos and ignore the fact that they are making imbeciles of themselves. Well I am sorry, I have no problem telling people when they are being unrealistic.
     
  10. BluesnBlazin

    BluesnBlazin Member

    They are allowing you to get in line to be the first to buy it, when it is ready. They did NOT take your money, so they actually don't owe you anything. Have you bought the laptop yet? No, the money is still on your card, so no, they don't OWE you anything yet.
     
  11. True, they can change the shipping date. For what reason tell me? Intel updates? Next? For what qa test? They should have included the testing dates for the first delay. And then shoot, delay again, what will be their reason now other than serious qa issues?

    Don't throw me thunderbolt 3 is new arguement because when i say my colleagues tested it 2 years ago, i never stated that they are testing it for egpu purposes. I just said that the tech exist 2 years ago while you're still mumbling about tb3 is new.

    You just contradicted your statement earlier. This is common sense provided you have one. And do you really believe that razer just accidentally find out that there's a problem with the core and thunderbolt 3 JUST YESTERDAY? of course engineers should know it first. How incompetent are they if they still haven't found out the issue up to this point and not release a statement at the very least, a script for their CS? To see your beloved ceo doing random tweets and not addressing this issue, don't you think you're going overboard defending razer?

    This just really tells me how mis informed you are with your knowledge of electronics manufacturing. You might have work for manufacturing but i think its not in the field of servers and computers. Additionally your statement claims that all of this engineering issues and qa just happened within the past 24 hours..... (Just before first delay shipping date)

    You don't have an idea of lost productivity due to delays. FYI, i never intended this blade to used for games, i'm using it for spectral rendering of electronic waves and emi. If this comes with a quadro i'm willing to wait for even 2 months granted mobile pascal is way back at the end of 2016. When you say starts shipping, you already have a working unit by that time.

    I highly doubt i am making sense talking to you. And to throw all americans into the bandwagon of first world problems. You must be an immigrant waiting for citizenship for you to be in the US to stay this long. Or probably an illegal alien.. smh.

    Anyway, i smell a strong fanboyism in your heart for you to try to cover up for razer incompetentness at this level and say things like "fool" "damn" "live your life".

    I strongly advise you to read that book. "The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne
     
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  12. Derek712

    Derek712 Active Member

    This is going in circles. I think you guys should agree to disagree before the mods clean up....again
     
  13. Icesick06

    Icesick06 Member

    I like how @BluesnBlazin is trying to single handedly be razer damage control. Makes me laugh. Now I'm not mad, just frustrated. But as a sensible adult with things that need done, I cancelled my order as I can't wait around for Razer launch this. Delays like this cost razer money and a customer. Like I said in a post in another thread, this is the 5th iteration. By now they should know to build up stock, announce, sell, and if they sell out then go to back orders. At least doing it that way, you know you have a finished product ready to ship to customers. Not this take pre orders on the laptop that we've been building for years with incremental upgrades but dont actually build them til we start pre orders
     
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  14. I doubt he would understand. You're just going to be added to his list of "i got to defend razer from this dude" list.

    Ming's apology years ago really means nothing now since nothing has changed.
     
  15. I think we can agree that BluesnBlazin is a douche and needs to back off everyone else's frustrations
     
  16. @BluesnBlazin you're not a chocolate so please don't try to make everyone be happy, contented and calm from their frustration.
     
  17. David-El

    David-El Member

    I'm also quite disappointed in this delay (Third one for my particular order). I think the fact that there was no explanation is the thing that irks me the most. I agree with the others that there should be some form of retribution, whether that be an additional discount on a Core, case, or simply some discount of the order price.

    I did do a little internet research and rumors are stating that Nvidia was possibly slowing down it's production of 9xx series cards to focus on ramping up production of 10xx series cards for June. I wonder if this rumor could be true and is partly the reason for this latest delay. Before anyone says it, no I don't think this will mean the Blade will come with Pascal.

    I'm also not very happy about the whole "Be nice to Razer staff" thread that was posted basically a day before this latest delay. I'm not saying I think it was planned or anything, just that the coincidence is just that in this case. After all, Kajira is a community member like the rest of us, not an employee that would have insider (heh) knowledge of the delay.
     
  18. This is dead spot on (on the nvidia slowing the manufacturing of 900 series). I could only think of 7 companies responsible for the rumor. LOL

    This blade would never come with a pascal chip. Desktop series hasn't even have a formal announcement.
     
  19. BluesnBlazin

    BluesnBlazin Member

    You are seriously dense. You are the one who clearly has no idea what you are talking about. I am a computer technician and actually produce my own computers for sale, small time, but I run every end of it myself. I never said that was the issue, I was giving a plausible example of what could've happened...you need to work on your reading comprehension.

    And I do understand the lost productivity due to delays, but if you are losing production because you were waiting on a preorder, then you are an utter moron and you were doomed to fail from the start. And yes, when they stated a shipping date, I am sure they had a working product...that doesn't mean they don't continue testing leading up to the shipping date to try to find every little problem they can before they ship it out.

    Btw, I am 100% American, as are all my previous generations, so if you don't know what I am talking about when I refer to "American Ignorance", then you are clearly in that group and I am wasting my time. Plus, I am far from a fanboy (this is my first laptop from them and I owned a Razer Sabertooth controller, though I do like their products), I just don't like seeing people rip companies for the consumer's unrealistic expectations. Im not a fanboy, I am just someone who needs to learn to ignore ignorance when I see it so I don't waste my time explaining common sense to people like you.

    If you are complaining about your laptop not shipping on time, that is the definition of 'First World Problems'. I mean, other people in the world are worried about where they will get their next meal, yet you want to bring a company to it's knees because your laptop isn't going to be here when you expected it, and your reasoning for being upset is that you needed it by a certain time to do your work? So you are saying that it is Razer's fault because you don't understand the risks of preordering and thus are horrible at preparing for the things you need to do in life? Shouldn't you already have a computer for your work? In a world where companies delay releases all the time, you find a way to shame Razer (even though everyone who preordered shouldve expected this if they did their research) for delaying a product for unknown reasons (even though we should all know that it is for a good reason)...Plus, why should they give an explanation when people like you will just find another way to complain and then rip them even more. I hope Razer delays even further, so you cancel your order, then when it does release, you kick yourselves for being impatient imbeciles. You should just buy an Apple...those are for the people who can't think for themselves.

    And what is it with your Secret Book. No, I do not need your self help book...I am doing just fine, which is why I don't get bent out of shape over things like this. I'm definitely not taking any advice from someone who is defending your position in this argument, as your logic is fundamentally flawed. Companies do not owe explanations to consumers when the product hasn't officially been released. They cannot support a product you don't have, and you have no inherent right to the information that is circulated behind closed doors. Sure, we would all like that info, but with how consumers irrationally overreact to things, why should they release a statement other than to tell you the bare minimum. They will still tell you something, but I attest that they don't actually have to since 1.You still have your money, and 2.It hasn't been officially released. A preorder is simply them telling you that they are releasing a product and you can get in line if you want to, but until they take your money, THEY OWE YOU NOTHING! If you think they do, then this is just another example of American Ignorance. How do I know that such ignorance exists? Because I am an American and I encounter ignorant logic all the time and it is always the result of Americans thinking they should be privileged in ways that others aren't, because we are used to that being the case. Just because a child is constantly spoiled by everyone in their family, doesn't mean they are entitled to such treatment. You are used to companies and all their press releases, and those companies cutting little corners to make release dates, however, that doesn't mean you are entitled to any information if you haven't actually spent any money. Sure companies give you the info, because it is good practice, but in no way are you entitled to that info. If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere. feeling like you are entitled doesn't mean you actually are. Razer will still do just fine without your money, they are clearly already selling more than they expected anyway. They haven't done anything illegal in any shape or form, but most of you act like they are ripping you off here, all they did was push a product release date back, and haven't finished a press release yet. No company tells the consumers about problems as they happen, all that has to go through PR first. The statement will come, just be patient...If you can't be patient, then what are you doing preordering things. Buy something that was already released.

    I'm sure you will ignore all this logic and just try to quote that book again. smh I don't know why I am arguing with someone who needs a self help book. Carry on with your ignorance, I am clearly wasting my time here.
     
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  20. Manufacturing.... Computer technician on a small scale... Yep, done talking to you now that i know you have zero idea on what's happening at the back end of large corporations.

    I really think you need that book. Don't try to be a chocolate next time.
     
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