Question about Blackwidow X chroma

Discussion in 'Keyboards' started by Xanidro, Dec 28, 2016.

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If you would want to help me decide about BW or BWX

  1. Blackwidow Chroma

    40.0%
  2. Blackwidow X Chroma

    60.0%
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  1. Xanidro

    Xanidro New Member

    Hey.
    I'm looking forwards to buy BWX chroma (or standard BW chroma, I can't decide) and I want to ask if Blackwidow X works with chroma workshop or only standard BW does that?
    Because I'm planning to use profiles from workshop.
    If you would help me with the choice about the two you should know that:
    • I don't mind the lack of macros.
    • I like the look of both keyboards but i prefer more professional look.
    • I like both lightning.
    • I like that X has exposed look, but I'm worried that i will have to set my hands high and there is no rest. (if you have one, could you tell me if your hands are tired after a long preiod of time holding them like that?)
    • I like that X is from metal so it's more secure and solid.
    • I like that X is easier to clean.
    • And I don't think that the lack of USB hurts me, could you tell me if it would made a diffrence if I would plug the keyboard from the front or the back?

    I should also add that it would be my first mech.
    If you answered my question, could you type why you chose that option?
    Thank you for help ;)
     
  2. gaykob7

    gaykob7 Well-Known Member

    Personally I prefer the normal BW since it's lights are much brighter due to the white backplate
    But I have to admit the BW x looks more elegant so if you don't mind the lack of usb ports and macro keys I'd say go for the X
     
  3. zcr07

    zcr07 Well-Known Member

    Well let's see.
    • If you don't mind the lack of macros, then you can just save $10.
    • I think they both look pretty damn sleek and professional.
    • As @j.i mentioned, the normal might have brighter lights due to the backplate and less dissipation from the keys being more exposed.
    • The X's exposed look is very unique, but unfortunately I can't tell you how it feels.
    • Technically both have military grade metal construction, the X is just exposed, but if dropped perhaps there is less to damage.
    • The X is by far easier to clean.
    • It should not matter where you plug either of these keyboards in on your machine as they both support USB 2.0 and 3.0, so as long as your pc (hopefully) has no 1.0 ports you should be fine. The X also only requires 1 USB port while the other requires 2 USB and mic and headphone jack, assuming you're going to utilize those on the keyboard.
    So let's try to wrap this up.

    IF you don't care about the lack of Macro keys or USB port and you like both lighting, it sounds like the only possible qualm you're having is over the key height of the X, otherwise it would be your better choice as it is cheaper.
    HOWEVER, with that being said, for ONLY $10 more you get the added functionality of macro keys and convenient USB, headphone and mic ports at the cost of an extra USB port.

    I would say the deciding factor depends on how much you think you may actually use those ports and/or macros versus the potential fatigue/exhaustion from the X.
    My suggestion, as most people on here would suggest is, if possible, go to a retail store that carries Razer products to see which one you like the feel of more. I'm the type though, that just picks and orders online and deals with what I get.

    With all that being said, I personally have the standard BlackWidow Chroma, but I regularly utilize the USB, mic, and headphone jacks. If nothing else, it's a convenient phone charger.
     
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  4. Xanidro

    Xanidro New Member

    Thanks for replies and help, but to the price the X and normal costs the same in my country and you can always modify your X to get same lightning as in normal:

    But can i put a profile from chroma workshop onto X?
    like this: http://prntscr.com/dox2kf
    It says BW chroma, is X included or not?
    Thanks for help.
     
  5. zcr07

    zcr07 Well-Known Member

    If it's a chroma product, it should be compatible with any chroma apps unless that particular third party didn't support that product in their chroma app.
     
  6. Xanidro

    Xanidro New Member

    Should i ask technical support from razer about that?
    To be sure?
     
  7. zcr07

    zcr07 Well-Known Member

    If Chroma were Skyrim, Chroma Workshop would be the Creation Kit/Nexus Mods.
    All Chroma Workshop is, is a platform for other third party apps to be developed and offered.
    All Razer Chroma products are supported by the Chroma Workshop, BUT if there are specific third party apps (apps developed by someone other than Razer), that you are interested in, THEN it is ONLY supported if that person(s) specifically designs the app to support your Chroma device.
    Chances are though, if it supports the BlackWidow, then it should support the BlackWidow X.
     
  8. Xanidro

    Xanidro New Member

    All right.
    Thank you so much, you helped me so much ;)
     
  9. zcr07

    zcr07 Well-Known Member

    No problem!
     
  10. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Hey Xanidro, welcome to Insider. It sounds like you have pretty much made up your mind. The right choice for you seems to be the BlackWidow X Chroma. zcr07 did a damn fine job of laying out the details. That guy knows what he's talking about.

    Just to reiterate, both the original and the X are made of metal, it's just that the original has a plastic cover over everything.

    I will copy and post a pros/cons list that I give people who are trying to decide between these 2 models just to provide you with more information. Hopefully it helps you finalize your decision. I have crossed off the points that you said don't matter to you.

    BlackWidow Chroma
    :heavy_plus_sign: Dedicated macros
    :heavy_plus_sign: USB pass through
    :heavy_plus_sign: Audio pass through
    :heavy_plus_sign: Original Razer gamer font
    :heavy_plus_sign: Plastic cover over metal top mounting
    :heavy_plus_sign: Comes in both Green and Orange switches at the moment
    :heavy_plus_sign: Optimized LED illumination via white metal backplate (brighter and cleaner)
    :heavy_plus_sign: Matches other Razer Peripherals, such as the Orbweaver/Tartarus/Naga Hex/etc.

    BlackWidow X Chroma
    :heavy_plus_sign: Costs less
    :heavy_plus_sign: Smaller Footprint
    :heavy_plus_sign: Easier maitenance
    :heavy_plus_sign: Built-in cable management
    :heavy_plus_sign: Exposed metal top mounting
    :heavy_plus_sign: Fn and spacebar keycaps are backlit
    :heavy_plus_sign: Keys have Razer 2016 design refresh font
    :heavy_plus_sign: Nicer LED indicators for caps/scroll lock, etc.

    The following should give you a good idea of how the backlight illumination looks:

    [​IMG]
    [BlackWidow Chroma]

    [​IMG]
    [BlackWidow X Chroma]

    Imo, the backlight on the X isn't as nice. It's messy and spills light everywhere. It will bounce light around the keys, your desk, your monitor, etc. It's also not as bright. This is because it lacks the plastic cover and white backplate to contain and optimize it. You noted that you like the BlackWidow X lighting though, so this probably isn't a deal breaker for you.

    To be fair, some users have reported corrosion issues about the X. If you live in a humid environment, you might want to do some research about this. Run a search on this forum if this is a concern.

    From your list of bullet points, it still seems like X is the right choice for you because there are more personal advantages.
     
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  11. zcr07

    zcr07 Well-Known Member

    Thanks but I'm just a fan. :smiley:
     
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  12. Xanidro

    Xanidro New Member

    Thank you SO much, I really appriciate it.
    But does the lightning really spills everywhere?
    I can see in this video that the desk doesnt show any lightning at all (correct me if im wrong)

    Your post really helped me, thanks!
     
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  13. Psyjin

    Psyjin Well-Known Member

    Hey no problem, that's what we're here for!

    In the video you posted that guy has his room lights on for most of the video so you can barely even see the backlight anyway. I'm mostly talking about in the dark or dimly lit environments.

    The amount of light bouncing around is going to depend on your setup and where you position the keyboard. I have a black glass desk and multiple glossy monitors in front of me. When my friend brought over his X and plugged it into my setup, light was reflecting everywhere and I found that to be distracting.

    Take a look at some photos and look around the top plate of the X - you see spots of light everywhere, especially between the function row and number row. The light also bounces onto the desk in some cases. Here are some I Googled:

    Blackwidow-X-Chroma.jpg
    [Notice light bouncing onto the table]

    razer blackwidow x chroma custom lighting.jpg
    [Notice light bouncing onto the table]


    razer bw x chroma desk light bounce.jpg
    [Directly from product page]

    8-e1476015926102.jpg
    [Notice the area between function and number rows. The navigation cluster too]

    The original BW doesn't have this problem the light is 'optimized' (to use Razer's words) by the plastic cover. That is part of the reason why the cover is there - besides providing protection, it gives a clean appearance by containing the light:

    12916810_10209105442891018_2178499220063004936_o_zps9awiwdvp.jpg
    [Insider Ivanborgiey's BW X Ultimate (compare with below)]

    bw_sharper.jpg
    [My old BW Ultimate (compare with above)]

    Again, it's going to depend on your setup, but as you can see, the LED backlight illumination is very different between the original BW and the X. If that matters to you, make sure to take it into consideration when choosing your keyboard. Really hope that helps!
     
    Last edited: Dec 28, 2016
  14. Xanidro

    Xanidro New Member

    Wow, that really change my point of view, I thought that the original BW had brighter lights and more distracting that would make my room a disco, when the guy turned lights off in the video it wasnt looking that bad. (11:28)
    It helped, really.
    Maybe if it's possible ill ask at the store if I wouldn't be happy with one after a day maybe I could exchange it, We will see ;)
    Again, thank you.
     
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