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Razer Blade Stealth revolution! Not for EU though?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tekayi, Jan 14, 2016.

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  1. Tekayi

    Tekayi New Member

    Hello all,
    First, I agree with the Blade Stealth instead of Macbook idea. And I think it's a dream machine. But chance for this to be possible would be much higher, if Razer wasn't focused primarily on USA market. Math is simple, 1199 USD for 256GB version, so that means, that in europe it ll be avaible for 1499 EUR. Sorry, but for 1499EUR I can have better machine. Like, I don't know, Macbook Pro with warranty from my local store..

    My question is, what will the price really be in EU? For example, Deathadder Chroma costs 70 EUR in my local store. On Razerstore it's 69.99 USD. Why are the Blades soo unreachable?
     
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  2. FrostyGunman

    FrostyGunman Active Member

    Taxes, import costs and shipping in combination with a weak euro currency exchange makes it that things seems much more expensive. But Razer can't do a lot about all that sadly.
     
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  3. Lafar

    Lafar Well-Known Member

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  4. Tekayi

    Tekayi New Member

    The link is for UK store, there Razer Blade costs 1800GBP. But 1800GBP is rougly 2500EUR...
     
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  5. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    It would be if you could tell the difference between Pounds(£) and Euros(€)...
     
  6. Lafar

    Lafar Well-Known Member

    Whoops :/...
     
  7. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    You also need to account that in the NA store sales tax is not included whereas in the European store they include VAT (15-25% depending on which country it is being shipped to)

    Furthermore, companies often overprice products in their non-native currencies to compensate for the fluctuating exchange rates.
     
  8. Tekayi

    Tekayi New Member

    Yea, I know about the taxes, but mice, keyboards and headsets costs same/even less in my country (Czech Republic). But the blades are expensive as hell..
     
  9. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    If you want a premium product you have to pay a premium price.
     
  10. vampirivan

    vampirivan Well-Known Member

    Peoblem emerges last year when the prices in EUR where upgraded 'cause of the lower exchange rate. Before prices was very pretty. I have buyed the leviathan for 200€. Now it's 250. The same for blades. I really really hope in a exchange prices 1$=1€ ...
     
  11. Tekayi

    Tekayi New Member

    I think that the idea of Blade Stealth is to NOT be one of the "premium" products, that only one person from the whole univesity has. And this is my point, hope it ll come true.
     
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  12. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    I fail to see what you mean. Could you elaborate?
     
  13. holyfiregirl

    holyfiregirl Member

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  14. johan018

    johan018 New Member

    If you can live with the US Layout and (depending on your country) pay the taxes for import you can get it for around 1250 eur. Still a lot. But as I'm writing this from my Macbook Air I'm not regretting a thing.
     
  15. Overtask

    Overtask Well-Known Member

    Conference rooms, dorms and coffee shops are still on the higher end of purchasing power scale. For the average person $1000 is still a fair bit of money to spend on a laptop, hence I would still consider it a premium product. Probably not as much as a fully specced Blade, but still significantly more than say a Chromebook.

    On the subject of cost the Blade 256 QHD+ costs 2400 USD on the US Store and 1720 GBP (2150 - 20% as VAT isn't included in the US Store). 1720 GBP = 2452 USD so really a fairly insignificant difference of 52 USD that you effectively lose on forex.
     
  16. gaykob7

    gaykob7 Well-Known Member

    I really hope they will change the pricing for their systems, because let´s face it, 2500€ for a Razer blade here is a premium price, but the specs of the system are not. For 2500 you can get much better notebooks
     
  17. Tekayi

    Tekayi New Member

    Blades are premium laptops, like, Linus from LinusTechTips uses it and he went through maany laptops before.

    Overall, Min is smart, he knows that he will have much more sales in US than in EU. For example, I work in IT and my salary is higher than 90% people have here - I have $8 per hour. Thats considered reeally good here in the mid-east EU.

    I just hope, the price ll be reasonable in EU, that's all. For 1200 euros, I'm going to buy it first day. Otherwise, Im afraid there'll be no revolution here.

    Thanks for all replies, I appreciate that..
     
  18. Memfisto

    Memfisto New Member

    EU is always on a hit from those transfer rates. They take it as the whole EU has equal standard when it's only North/Northwest that can keep up with it. Eastern part is especially in a bad spot. Just compare it to how Steam does its pricing. 60€ for a new game is around 1/10 of a monthly paycheck here while being at least 1/40 of the paycheck in Germany.
     
  19. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    There are a lot of things that go into pricing a product.

    If the Blade is $2000 in the US, in the EU it is automatically $2400 as your VAT/IVA is included in the price, and our taxes aren't.

    Then, you have to figure the cost of distribution, returns, shipping, etc. When you have lower volume of sales, those costs increase on a per unit basis. So in the US, the $2000 includes those costs, but they are probably higher in Europe as Razer sells less there and has a less developed distribution network.

    Lastly, warranties. Nothing is free in life, and I know European consumer protections are stronger than the US. Unfortunately, that is ALWAYS built into the cost of the product. I know that in some EU countries, you can return a product even after the warranty period is up for any "normal use issues". That costs money, and you, the EU consumer pays for it.

    Factoring all that in, here are my quick calculations, in dollars and then I'll convert to Euros. (Razer Blade FHD version)

    US price: $2000

    Additional distribution/marketing/return costs: (5%) $100

    Additional warranty costs to be factored in: (10%) $200

    IVA/VAT on $2300 @ 20%: $460

    Total USD price: $2760

    Total Euro price, @ $2760 USD: 2533€

    I don't see any overcharge, and this doesn't even include currency risk.
     
  20. Tekayi

    Tekayi New Member

    Let's please talk just about Blade STEALTH as the marketing should be totally different like Min said. And.. let's just wait for the price to be unveiled.. Like, this talk could be endless. Btw, warranty is pretty strict here. There's no thing like after warranty repairs. No warranty - nobody ll pay attention to you. But again, I think i'll just wait.. and hope..
     
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