The new Razer Blade - Powerful. Portable. Perfect.

Discussion in 'Systems' started by technokat, Sep 2, 2016.

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  1. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    It has three USB ports...
  2. SireOblivion

    SireOblivion Active Member

    If that's the case then the Blade needs to be made thicker, at these temps you're going to throttle to hell and back and not get the advertised performance. That's horrible.
  3. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    I honestly don't think those are the temps we will see. The thermals of the 1060 are the same as 970m. No reason to be getting 93c. My guess is that laptop didn't have enough airflow or it was just a quick demo until for the show.
  4. Eason85_no_id

    Eason85_no_id Member

    They aren't the same thermals. They are *comparable* but the 1060 runs a bit hotter than the 970m. As evidenced. Thus, MSI and the other manufacturers upgraded their cooling for their laptops with more fans with more fins to move more air, while Razer didn't.

  5. Jason1818

    Jason1818 New Member

    Not sure about "making the blade thicker". I think that's one of the things that separates the blade from its competitors, a powerful laptop in a sleek and thin form factor.
  6. greatking0527

    greatking0527 Active Member

    This looks great, like the fact that they brought back FHD
  7. SireOblivion

    SireOblivion Active Member

    I know, but the laws of physics still apply here so a bit bigger with beefier fans for a hotter chip would really help. I've already seen reports of the 1060 in ultraslim laptops thermal throttling to 960 performance. I'm really hoping they redid the cooling solution on this.
  8. BarrothHS

    BarrothHS Active Member

    Still no G-Sync...

    Still no EU release...

    Still disappointed...
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  9. Can you point me to some sources?
    I would like to see if this is true.

    And from a few specs I've seen. I thought the 1060 and 970m have the same tdp.. No?
  10. I have a Razer Blade(2016)
    It's really hot even just playing CSGO ( All low setting,1920x720).
    This time, the new version Razer Blade actually put GTX1060 on it, will that get hot more? I want to buy it but I don't know should I trust Razer again ?
  11. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    I have CSGO maxed and native resolution and my gpu never goes above 85c. Maybe you have something up with yours?
  12. I think yes,it actually dead now and I'm going to return this(just used for 6 hours),then I found there is a new version released. so.... I want to buy The Blade again,it's really thin and powerful
  13. Benjibar

    Benjibar New Member

    There are two points on the heat issue, firstly the TDP of the 1060 is higher than the 970m.

    Secondly, the heat is more concentrated. They've gone from 28nm to 16nm on the manufacturing process which means the heat is in a much smaller area and needs to be transferred very effectively in that small space which ideally means a larger heat spreader, which can't be done easily in such a thin laptop.

    That said, I think we're seeing those temperatures because there have been changes to the thermal management of pascal cards in laptops. On a desktop they'll never go over I think 83C on stock settings, this is where GPU boost slows the boost clock and voltages. It looks like they've upped that by 10C in the laptop and if the card can sustain that and still have reasonable operational lifespan, then I don't have a huge issue.... Except for maybe burning fingers.
  14. bowiescompanda

    bowiescompanda Active Member

    Not a single person has commented on what is, I think, the most important question. I don't know enough about the history of Razer's product cycle, nor do I recall what information on expected - or suspected - performance improvements was publically available and widely known, so any opinion I have is grounded in very few facts. That might not normally stop someone from opining but its just not my style... Thoughts from folks more knowledgeable would be interesting.

    @TestMusingForgetIt, your posts have been legitimate with plenty of valid points.
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  15. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    Take a look at this... I am having a very hard time justifying the new blade at its price point over this. And trust me I love my current Blade. But you can configure this MSI with twice the ram (and faster ram) a 2tb mechanical drive along side the 1tb SSD. Plus you can have them apply liquid ultra to cpu/gpu lower thermals almost guaranteeing no throttling. This is a 4k model with option of 1080p for 200 less. Also a 15.6 inch screen and .69 inches thick making it officially thinner than Razer.

    I'm at a loss for word's...
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  16. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    Ha! Don't be. MSI has always been cheaper than Razer, if it meets your needs go for it.

    But from my knowledge of MSI, I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole. Different strokes for different folks, Razer is not the best "value for dollar" so if that is a primary concern buy an MSI/EVGA/Clevo etc.

    Also... Thermal paste isn't a magic wand, FYI.
  17. Firebat246

    Firebat246 The One

    Well at those spec's it would meet most people's needs. It isn't just about my needs. The reviews seem to really favor it. There's really no downside unless you have to have that Razer logo. Build quality etc seem on point. Again I love Razer and have multiple products of theirs. But I definitely can't ignore a no brainer. I haven't made any decision yet but I wanted some opinions.

    And thermal paste (as I have used many different kinds in different machines) will definitely be the difference between overheating and not in many cases. Especially in a laptop!
  18. Benjibar

    Benjibar New Member

    I agree with @reloader-1 here. The issue in a laptop isn't getting head from the CPU/GPU to the heatsink, it's getting the heat from there out of the laptop. It'd be very easy to take some heat off a 93C GPU but if the heatsink itself hits 93C there's no temperature delta for it to cool the chip. You need a bigger heatsink for more fins / heat spreading and more airflow (or static pressure) first and foremost to improve the thermals.
  19. Luxcollective

    Luxcollective New Member

    Are the 512mb and 1TB drives NVME? I noticed on HIDEVOLUTION that NVME drives are an "upgrade". Is that suggesting that the stock M.2 SSD's are the slower flavor? I can't find performance spec's for the stock drives.
  20. Zwippie

    Zwippie Member

    crap i just bought a razer blade 14
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