My Experience with AMDs Ryzen so far

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  1. Vaypron

    Vaypron Well-Known Member

    Hey guys,
    some weeks ago my old processor started to die, so I had to decide for a new CPU.
    If that would have happend in the last years it would have been an easy choice, because there was only Intel who produced viable processors.

    This years AMD tries to compete with Intel and well in my opinion they did really well. Nevertheless this wont be an "AMD is now better than Intel"-post or anything else. This is just my personal experience with the new platform so far and I wont go into any technical aspects(benchmarks), because there are already more than enough Reviews online.

    Disclaimer: This is just my own opinion! If you want further information and objective reviews, try google. There are tones of them :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

    Choosing the right CPU:

    If you are coming from the older AM3+ Socket or any Intel Socket you will also have to buy a new Motherboard and RAM. The current quantity of motherboards is ok. There are a lot Manufactures that have already released their X370 and B350 Motherboards so I had a good pool of boards to choose from. Meanwhile the prices for good DDR4-RAM exploded with the release of Ryzen.
    In the end I went for the Asus X370-Pro Motherboard + 16 GB DDR4 from Corsair.
    Personally I wanted to go for the R7 1700, because of it's lower price and high overclocking potential, but a day after I ordered everything I saw a deal with the better 1700X for the same price. So I sent back the 1700 and got myself the 1700X.

    Things that need to be considered:

    Both the 1700X and the 1800X come without an fan, so I had to use my own AiO-Watercooler. To my surprise it didn't supported the new AM4 socket out of the box, so I had to order an extra extension bracket für 4€ with 8€ shipping costs... Thanks [Fill in Manufacturer name].

    Installing everything:
    Nothing new for someone who has already build an pc.

    Performance and daily usage:
    The 1700X isn't a CPU particularly for gamer, content-creators or programmers. It's a CPU for someone that does it all, or at least two of them. Its 8 Cores/16 Threads perform great in heavier workloads and get stuff done really fast, games run great without any cpu bottle-necking and videos encoding is really fast. Ryzen is a complete new platform and there are still bugs, or certain tasks it didn't work so great with, but there are nearly weekly Bios updates that improve the stability and increasing the overall performance.

    Overclocking:
    I hadn't so much time for Overclocking yet, but I'm able to run my 1700X on 4GHz(normal speed is around 3,4-3,5Ghz) constantly and without any throttling. The only thing that caught my attention was the high cpu temperatures. Even with my AiO-Watercooler the CPU idled around 45-50°C. Some researching later I found out that AMD manipulates the temperatures-readings with an offset of 20°C higher, so that it's easier to overclock the CPU with the default fan-configuration of your motherboard. I don't really like that, because I always have a bad feeling seeing an CPU idling around 50°C.

    Conclusion:

    Would I recommend the new Ryzen CPUs?
    Yes, if you want a CPU that works well for both gaming, rendering and other heavy workload definitely. For 330€ and 370€ both the 1700 and the 1700X are good choices. They have a good out-of-the-box performance and even higher overclocking potential.
    But it's nothing I would recommend for someone who just wants boost their frames in games. You guys are still better with Intel :)

    Now I would be interested in your experience if you also own a Ryzen chip and/or what you think about the new Ryzen 5? :)
     
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  2. tEMternet

    tEMternet New Member

    I have 2 questions pertaining to this:
    1. If you want to improve fps surely it wouldn't matter whether you choose AMD or Intel cpus as the majority of graphics processed in the gpu so unless you are using integrated gpu surely both will be good for pumping frames as long as you have a good dedicated gpu to compliment it?
    2. What is Ryzen like for games that devour multicore cpus cos for the price to performance ratio I hear from LTT and other online sources is where it really shines compared to intel, is this true in your opinion?
    PS I 100% respect your opinion, LTT, etc. but I also am curious to find out more
     
  3. ItsHerobrine

    ItsHerobrine Active Member

    Yes any $100 processor and $200 GPU setup will crush a $200processor and $100 setup

    This video perfectly explains that CPUs don't affect the frames as much as you would think.

    And yes, a locked i5 and unlocked i7 makes no difference.
     
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  4. Cpt_Disappointment

    Cpt_Disappointment Active Member

    Good thing about Ryzen release is that Intel is going to up their game.
    Buying Ryzen now is not a bad idea, but I'll wait until Intel releases something new. Then, we'll calculate the performance/$ ratio. My i5 4570 is not that bad ATM
     
  5. Vaypron

    Vaypron Well-Known Member

    Well true, but just to a certain degree. Like you can see in the Ryzen R7 1800X from LTT. Mostly the game performance depends on the GPU, but also for all the physics etc on the CPU. As seen in the video, even with the same gpu the 1800X(500$) gets outperformed in multiple games by the i7-7700k(~350$) in raw FPS. It's due to the high single-core performance of the current Intel consumer CPUs. Most of the current games aren't supporting multithreading, so it's better for a game to have less strong cores(Intel: f.e. 4 Cores/8 Threads at ~4.2Ghz) instead of lots of slower ones(AMD: f.e. 8 Cores/16Threads at ~3.4Ghz).

    Yep definitely. The R7 CPUs are rocking in multi-core performance. Thinking of a 8 Core/16 Thread CPU for around 330$ would have been unbelievable a year back. It's also another opportunity for Ryzen to shine. Seeing more and more games supporting multithreading, the gap between Intel and AMD in raw FPS gets closer. So it depends one the game developer to integrate Ryzen :)
     
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