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Discussion in 'Systems' started by RoyalTartToter, Jan 25, 2016.
That is correct
Go ahead and try the 850 and let me know if it works.
So you're 100% sure? Is there a way to check from the laptop itself without actually buying one? Checking the system devices etc.? I understand the benefits of getting the pro, I just don't think the extra speed is worth double the price for my situation.
QHD 128 arrived before noon. I booted it up and had a good look around. I really like this from my upgrade of my Dell Adamo that's about 5 years old.
I went ahead and cloned the drive from the link shown earlier in this thread as a backup. I switched out the SSD to the 512GB I ordered from Amazon.
I did a fresh Windows 10 Home (forgot to look what version it came installed with. Could be pro. I'll have to look into that) install from a bootable USB I made a few days ago. All is up and running. I'm installing the chipset, thunderbolt, wifi, ... drivers from Razer's support page so everything is up to date.
All is smooth, so far.
The Evo 850 M.2 is a B+M keyed M.2 SATA III drive(not to be confused with the mSATA version of the same drive which is a different form factor altogether) which is typically used by SATA and 2x PCIe M.2 drives so they can fit in any slot. B-key drives are rare, because most sockets are M-key. M-key drives(like the 950 pro) can be any type, but 4x PCIe must be M-key.
The SSDs are backward compatible, meaning a 4x PCIe SSD can be socketed into a 2x or SATA slot(provided it physically fits the socket's key pattern) and will simply downgrade it's performance accordingly.
M.2 Sockets are not guaranteed to be backwards compatible though. Only way to know is to ask Razer or just try it out.
More information here: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/
Edit: Calrified mSATA vs M.2 SATA
For those curious in the US, the specific law in question is the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
Is swapping out the SSD worth it? I'm not sure I want to do so, I've seen that the components are delicate in reviews.
Which ssd did you order? The 950 pro?
Is it still running well and all the drivers are up and running?
And to answer your question/concern. Mine came installed with Win 10 Home. I don't recall there being an optiont to pick Home vs Pro either.
I've looked it up on how much it would be for an upgrade from 128GB to 256GB PCIe M2 SSD and it's roughly about 200USD more. But Razer is overcharging for an extra 128GB when you can get a 256GB and the 128GB with your laptop for the same price as getting a 256GB laptop from Razer.
Yes, I put in the Samsung 950 Pro.
All drivers are working very well, without issue.
I did take a snapshot of the programs before I removed the factory drive vs the new. I don't have installed the Dolby Digital Plus Home Theater (looks to be downloadable from Razer) program or Intel Serial IO program. I chose to hold off the Razer Comms program, for now. Of course, the wallpapers didn't get installed. I haven't gone searching for those, yet.
should not be used longer razer its Liteon SSD anymore. I'm using and it has lots of very confusing Classified error. razer make use of samsung ssd. Samsung's performance is very good. and durability of it and not argue anymore. Lite-on is also SSD of a Chinese company's shoddy country in the world
Really? What is the difference (Samsung vs Lite-on) I wonder...
speed and quality of samsung is amazing. lite also seems a cheaper price just only. but the speed is very low. I have many poorly water and complain about the quality. they have a lot of time warranty Lite-on .
I was hinting that Samsung is a Chineese company as well. It was referring to your comment about Lite-on being Chinese company. But you did not understand it obviously.
Korean company Samsung and manufactured in china by ssd samsung and apple products and packaging in china razer also there. lite also on the production in China and also the Chinese brand.
Bad news for some of you. This is one of the reasons that prevents me from buying the Blade...
So no warranty after you open the Blade, strange policy.
If you buy the blade from a Microsoft store and purchase the Microsoft extended warranty (+2 years @ $129) they will install any component that can be upgraded and still cover any warranty repair.
Razer can bluster all they want(many companies do). When doing business in the United States, US Law trumps their policy.
From FTC clarification guidelines released last year:
Source Document: https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/federal_register_notices/2015/05/150522mag-mossfrn.pdf
But not everyone lives in the USA. Any idea how it works in Europe?
Anyway, it's always me (one person) against the company. It's a fight that you won't win, as I think Razer won't care about just one person complaining.
Clauses like the one's Razer has been throwing around are called 'tying' clauses. In the US, they're flat-out illegal in warranties(and a lot of other aspects of business) unless you get a special waiver from the FTC. In fact, the FTC can fine or otherwise go after companies that even imply that un-authorized service or parts will invalidate your warranty.
In the EU they seem to be a bit more of a grey area in that there doesn't seem to be anything specifically prohibiting tying clauses in warranties, but there are a number of clauses about tying in the anti-trust/anti-competition articles which I've seen multiple parts manufacturers quote as reason why you can modify your PC. The problem is that they are vague. Specifically they mention dominant or significant position in the specific, internal market. I'm not sure Razer qualifies, but -again- the EU laws on the matter are pretty vague. Your best hope is probably to see if your specific Member State has any protections.
Alternatively, I would also argue that if enough users call Razer on this kind of user-unfriendly crap they'll listen.
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