Razer Core Pricing

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Ur2eZ_4_Me, Jan 13, 2016.

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  1. Ur2eZ_4_Me

    Ur2eZ_4_Me Active Member

    Hello fellow insiders!

    Myself and more than likely, many of you, are extremely excited about the Razer Stealth. However, being gamers, it is essential that the Razer Core is offered at a reasonable price, to ensure we get the most our of the Stealth. It appears that the Core will retail for ~$500, which compared to other graphics amplifiers, is a little pricey but seemingly fair in comparison to the competition.

    My concern, will any of you actually be willing to spend ~1,400$ on Stealth, 500$ on a Core, and potentially $300 on a graphics solution? All together, the Stealth could be looking at a total price of ~2,200$ for optimal gaming performance.

    If Razer truly wants to take over dorms, coffee shops, and conference rooms, it will be up to early adopting gamers to push this exciting product. In order to make this product more appealing to said gamers, I believe the Core could remain where its priced, however they should offer a Razer Stealth and Core bundle. With a bundle, they could sale the Core at a price close to what it cost to produce the item. By doing this, more gamers will be able to afford the two options, adoption rates will grow, and the brand will receive more publicity. If the Core is out of reach financially, I doubt many gamers will opt for a device with integrated intel graphics.

    Does anyone else thinking the price of the Core could push the Stealth away from gamers, especially since true gaming isn't possible without it? Or do you think the price is reasonable? Would you like to see a bundle?
     
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  2. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    I don't think it will be $500.

    Also, why are you using the $1400 for a price sensitive question? If the buyer is so price-sensitive, wouldn't the base model of $999 be a better comparison?
     
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  3. Ur2eZ_4_Me

    Ur2eZ_4_Me Active Member

    Early reports claim the Core to be around $500 dollars. And I used the 1400$ model since Razer advertises this (UHD) model over the (QHD) model. Regardless, the price of the laptop isn't a concern. Anyone looking at the ultrabook market will easily determine that the Stealth is offered at a remarkable price point. However, if the Core +Graphics pushes the price point too high, I doubt we will see the rates of adoption that Razer would desire.
     
  4. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    Perhaps. I've only seen that $500 figure in one place, and it's not a good source.

    If the Blade Stealth is THAT good compared to other ultra books, it will do fine. I know I've already ordered one...
     
  5. Ur2eZ_4_Me

    Ur2eZ_4_Me Active Member

    Well I hope so. I certainly want a Stealth, being a student first and gamer second (or at least that's what I tell myself lol). However, I'm holding off until Core pricing. If it's 300$ or less, it's a definite buy for me. I just wish they'd bundle the 1,400$ Stealth with a Core for ~1,650$. Or even better, partner up with nvidia and offer a Stealth, Core and Graphics for under $2000.
     
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  6. skul1008

    skul1008 Member

    Considering its basically a portable graphics card that you will need to supply/upgrade from time to time lets hope its not much more then a few 100 bucks
     
  7. BenjaminVien95

    BenjaminVien95 Active Member

    I believe that the razer core will be priced excessively at $500.
    Consider that other graphics docking solutions already cost $300-$400 and they are using proprietary connectors.
    The razer core is offering us a universal solution over thunderbolt 3.
     
  8. jdbogaard

    jdbogaard Member

    I doubt it will be > $500 for a core, the cost just doesn't seem to be there to justify it. It's a controller board for thunderbolt, a case, a psu, a pseudo motherboard, and extra controllers for the connectors.

    In the future, if your going to say you saw a source, please be kind enough to reference it so we can evaluate the source ourselves and not your regurgitation of the information.
     
  9. jpants94

    jpants94 Active Member

    I'm really hoping the core is < $300. I think $500 is too much of an asking price for it since it doesn't come with a GPU at all.
     
  10. GameGH0ST

    GameGH0ST Active Member

    I would have rather seen the nVidia X1 chip in the Blade Stealth. I like the idea of the Core but an Ultrabook by a gaming company should have decent graphics by itself.

    Google's new tablet with keyboard has the X1 in it. Surely this could have been worked out. nVidia is too critical to the gaming world to be competition for Razer, even though they butted heads between the Forge and the Shield.

    If they announced an X1 for the Blade Stealth "Pro" I'd start picking up pennies off of the ground.
     
  11. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    Dude. That is so impossible I don't even know where to start!

    The Tegra X1 is a SoC, I.e. It has the CPU and GPU integrated. You would have to swap the i7 for an X1 chip, which is nowhere near as powerful.

    I think you are confusing the X1 for some sort of GPU, which it isn't. Also, it isn't x86 so it wouldn't even run Windows...
     
  12. Chuemmer

    Chuemmer Active Member

    $500 would be so far beyond unreasonable it isn't funny. I am personally hopinh for something like 200-250
     
  13. elite.ire

    elite.ire Active Member

    +1 500$ is crazy. its SHOULD be around 150-300 it's not as if it includes the graphics card..... its just a glorified case to house a gpu. pc cases start at $15..... add extra for psu and other bits shouldn't be too expensive but knowing razer we will be raped on price
     
  14. mintouch

    mintouch Active Member

    I already ordered blade steatlh UHD and can afford $400 for core but I think if razer wants to sell it with meaningful amounts, they should make its price under $350.
     
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  15. GameGH0ST

    GameGH0ST Active Member

    Nah... actually, the X1 has some decent Direct X and OpenGL cababilities. The GPU is integrated. The CPU is a Cortex A57 and A53. It's an ultrabook so it will fit. I mean... theres no way to get a Gefore on there, or an AMD Radeon... due to cooling mainly. But at the factory they could easily place an X1 on the mainboard and allocate all of its processing power to visuals.

    Good look tho.
     
  16. GameGH0ST

    GameGH0ST Active Member

    Also... technically a 64 bit instruction set would incorporate 64 characters per run. Most 64 bit platforms can run a 32 bit OS quite easily with only little modification if any.

    Also... please understand that I do know what I'm talking about... and saying things like a 64-bit chip can't run Windows is only embarrassing for you. I don't even bother with anything other than 64 bit OSes anymore, including Windows.

    Ugh... these trolls pop out of no where. And they never add anything of value.

    I only suggested the X1 because its proven usefulness as a game-renderer (X1 dev board, X1 soc, X1 tablet, X1 shield console... etc etc.)

    And yes I would like to pair an X1 and an i7. The Core A53 and A57 would run linux distros so well and they would add so much horsepower to graphics rendering by taking calculatory loads away from the i7 CPU. I bet the nVidia PhysX or Havoc Physics engine would work flawlessly with the i7/X1 combo. And in an Ultrabook running Linux and Windows dual boot from an SSD? Dream come true.
     
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  17. skygunner27

    skygunner27 Active Member

    I like the X1 too, but it's no dual core i7. From what I've seen, the i7 is a sweet config. Sora runs sweet on the Blade Stealth....I love anime ;p
    http://store.steampowered.com/app/390730/ After purchasing the Stealth and not getting the opportunity to buy a bundle, I'd definitely be disappointed to see a bundle at a discounted price.

    I believe that the Stealth is a serious stand a lone device, regardless of the Razer Core. Razer is not going to have a problem moving units. By not forcing a bundle on customers, allows one to upgrade at one's own pace. For the ultimate mobile/desktop solution.

    What Razer has done here is brilliant!!

    I still want a Razer Core for my Razer Stealth......by the 15th of February.
     
  18. reloader-1

    reloader-1 Well-Known Member

    I'm a troll? Hmmmm...

    Whatever, but keep dreaming that you can replace a dedicated CPU with a SoC.

    Also, 64 bit doesn't mean squat when it comes to running Windows, mate :)

    Before continuing any further into this discussion, read a bit on ARM and x86 architecture, and then explain to me how an ARM processor will run an X86 software legally (note: Intel will never allow you).

    kthxbye.
     
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  19. GameGH0ST

    GameGH0ST Active Member

    It just will never satisfy me knowing this ultrabook has Intel's integrated graphics. It actually hurts a little bit. Everyday I wake up thinking about how sweet this Razer ultrabook would be and realize pretty much anything I pick out myself is going to be a much better mobile unit for those I contract for.

    If I buy a RZR Core it will be to interface with a different platform I get or something I built.

    Maybe there's just a disconnect for me.

    Someone please help me understand why this Stealth/Core combo is so fantastic vs. either individually or -perhaps- a Razer Ultrabook with a good graphics chip built in.

    Someone please... help me see the light.
     
  20. skygunner27

    skygunner27 Active Member

    Who said you are a troll? I don't believe I said that.

    I know all about Tegra. We own 2 Nvidia Shield K1 tablets and a Nvidia Shield with X1 SoC. I've gone from Tegra 2 on the Acer A100, to dealing with Tegra 3 on the Asus Transformer Prime TF201. Then I owned a Nvidia Shield with Tegra 4.
    I also don't want to argue or speculate on something that does not exist. The Stealth is here. Here's a pic of the 2 Nvidia Shield tablets I mentioned and their controllers.
    Optimized-20160129_232004.jpg

    I agree that it would be cool if there was a X1 version of the Stealth. I also agree that the Google Pixel C is a sweet setup. I actually considered buying one, but I could never find a demo to make a real decision.

    But as a proud owner of a whole bunch of Razer products and a Stealth, I applaud Razer for creating a mobile device with serious desktop GPU/4 USB 3 potential.
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2016
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