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Razer Mamba: can't get used to it

Discussion in 'Mice and Surfaces' started by AlanARG, Dec 5, 2014.

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  1. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    Hey everyone,
    After several years I decided to upgrade my old and loved Microsoft 1.1a white. So, I bought a Razer Mamba. Mouse looks great, I thought wireless would be a problem (I know I can wire it), but response it's fast and reliable.

    Anyway, before buying it I look around because of palm/claw grip that get me worried. I wanted to buy a mouse according to my needs, of course. So, I started to look for claw grips ones. Lots of people told to not be obsessed with that, because most of palm grips mices are still comfortable if you want to claw.
    Finally, I got the Mamba.

    As I said, I love it. For it's aesthetycs, response, everything. BUT, it's not comfortable for gaming. I can't get used to it at all. I don't know why either! I usually play FPS, CS:GO mostly, and sensitivity is WEIRD. I used to "pick" the mouse with my hand sometimes, and that way I "took it off" from the surface and I can control, in some way, how much I want to turn my crosshair. Problem is doing that the crosshair drives crazy. Besides, I feel my hand really weird after using the mice for a few hours.

    Someone please tell me if this is normal. Is this the claw grip problem? This mouse seems to be for palm grip. I'm trying to use it in different games and scenarios so I can get used to it's form and everything, but no result till now.

    Thanks for reading me and help.

    Alan.
     
  2. kajira

    kajira Mother of Gaming

    I honestly wish I could be of more use when it comes to questions like this. Sadly, I just have no broad experience with various grip styles. Generally speaking my hand is small enough that I am pretty much forced into a "palm grip" on every mouse. (except my tiny orochi, but even that I *can* comfortably palm, but sometimes that causes me to press the side buttons accidentially) Furthermore, I've never used a Mamba.

    I've no doubt that there are plenty of people around here who both use different grips and have used the Mamba who will have lots of information and ideas for you. They're great like that. hehehe :)
     
  3. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    Thanks for your reply and your time, buddy.

    I will get a nice pad and try to get used to the palm grip in some way. I get used to take it off from the surface while claw. I don't know why, I just do it haha.

    Thanks again!
     
  4. lifeautoCrimson336

    lifeautoCrimson336 Active Member

    I had the same problem with my ouroborus, but I got used to it after a while.
     
  5. EODeuce

    EODeuce Active Member

    I would just give it some time. I love my mamba. I still have the "classic" blue one. It took me a little while to get used to it but I won't use anything else now...except the newer version if I get it for Xmas.
     
  6. nfswmaniac

    nfswmaniac Member

    I dunno how i would reply to this, im a palm grip used but if ya need like a claw grip mouse of some sort, the naga is a great option with the big rubber pink rest on one side i think. Pretty much i like the naga because its great for palm grip but linus (linustechtips) says its also great for claw grip
     
  7. Lafar

    Lafar Well-Known Member

    I'm not so sure that I understand your problem... but try adjusting the Liftoff distance in settings in Synapse...
     
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  8. SquidTrooper

    SquidTrooper Active Member

    My favourite mouse of all time, the Deathadder. Perfect ergonomic shape, not recommended for those with a need for macros, only 2 buttons (better than nothing).
     
  9. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    Thank you all for the replies.
    I just figured out that the pad has big part of the fault. As it's deteriorated, some parts of it make the mouse "shake" in some way. And it seems that the sensor is REALLY sensitive, so EVERY movement under it (no matter how small) the sensor detects it and the cursor (or crosshair) moves a lot.

    I'll get a new pad tomorrow and see if that makes the change!
     
  10. sleekBeaverbyte112

    sleekBeaverbyte112 Active Member

    I really like the simplicity of my Taipan. I'm right-handed so the ambidextrous nature of the mouse didn't really appeal to me. I love the sharp white color of it though in addition to how comfortable and fluid it is :)
     
  11. I got the first Mamba and replaced my Copperhead :D.

    I had to get used too.
     
  12. Quailstick

    Quailstick Well-Known Member

    I didn't see how long you said that you had the Mamba. I know I had the same transition period that I felt uncomfortable with the mouse when I moved from my MX518 to my Naga. Hopefully the pad helps you fix your particular issue
     
  13. HaltusKain

    HaltusKain Well-Known Member

    If it's physically uncomfortable, as opposed to just having a hard time adjusting to the new buttons, I'd return it if that's still an option - it's shape won't change.

    I'd suggest the pre-chroma Naga Epic; it has customizable side panels, so it will work with any hand size or grip style. The newest version doesn't have that, so don't get the chroma. You may have to buy from a third party retailer - Walmart's website has the best price last time I personally looked.


    If it's just the new side buttons you're having a hard time getting used to, tape a pencil or something over the number keys on your keyboard - this will force you to rely solely on the mouse, without falling back on old habits. I did that when I first got my Naga, and it accelerated the adjustment period quite a bit.
     
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  14. Elfreid

    Elfreid Well-Known Member

    I was a claw-grip user before I get a Deathadder (same shape as Mamba) for myself. It took me around 1 week as get-used-to-it period when I first use the Deathadder. Due to the deathadder shape, I switch from claw-grip to palm-grip eventually and it is extremely comfortable to use it. Maybe you can try switch to palm-grip and see whether will your hand feel weird after long hour of usage. I do not mean your Mamba is not suitable for claw-grip but IMO palm grip maybe a better match to Mamba.

    I hope changing your mat will solve your problem and may I ask what DPI you currently using?
     
  15. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    Sorry, I forget to add that I bought it last Friday (5 days till now since 5th Friday).

    The new pad helps a lot, btw. The movement feels soft and easy.
     
  16. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    No I don't think the shape is a problem. Neither the buttons, because I barely use them. I think I just don't get used to it's weight and palm grip. I don't know actually. I'll see in a few days and decide what to do. As I said, pad really helps!
     
  17. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    I'm currently using 800 DPI. More than that makes it impossible to use because it's a lot of sensitivity.
    I get used to use high amounts of sensitivity in games and in Windows (because all my life had a small desk and pad). But more than 800 DPI makes it really difficult to use.
     
  18. SkyBill40

    SkyBill40 Member

    It's best to run your mouse at it's native sensitivity and adjust the rest in your particular games. For example, I play BF4 with a Death Adder 3.5G. I run the mouse at ~1600DPI in Synapse... but have the sensitivity slider in the game lowered significantly. I suffer no jittery play nor do I have an oversensitivity issue. And like you, I do lift my mouse off the surface at times. It's common. They build something into the sensor called "lift off distance" and some mice can adjust it. What this does is allow you to physically lift the mouse from the pad at a certain height but not move the aiming point.

    The longer you use your mouse, the more in tune you'll get with it. If you just can't transition, I'm sure you could sell it to someone else and that'll allow you to find another Microsoft mouse that suits your grip/hand better. Good luck.
     
  19. AlanARG

    AlanARG New Member

    How can I find the native sensitivity of my mouse? I have the Mamba as I said.

    Liftoff range (1 or 10) doesn't make any change, sadly.
     
  20. SkyBill40

    SkyBill40 Member

    Here's a decent vid to help explain what I'm after:



    Your native setting is usually somewhere close to the middle of the sensitivity range. Again, it'll take you a bit of tweaking to find the ideal setting for you between Synapse and whatever game it is you're playing.
     
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